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Author Topic: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells  (Read 630851 times)

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #315 on: January 22, 2012, 08:26:37 PM »
NickZ those are good looking batteries.I guess I will plead insanity now.I know these cells have no current.Moray found a way to draw more out of them.I need to park this here so I can refer back to it .Just a very simple way to plate copper or nickle.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Xo43sfLgY&feature=related  .I checked out my beach today.I can only get to it by climbing down a 40 foot hill.I guess I will wait for warmer weather to explore it.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #315 on: January 22, 2012, 08:26:37 PM »

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #316 on: January 22, 2012, 08:59:44 PM »
 triffid:
   Just thought that I'd save you some time. You may be able to get to where you say to want to go by using oscillators with your cells, to help charge batteries. They will help to add voltage to batteries, but not much current.  The trick is in finding the oscillator circuit that will work, using hardly no current. Not that easy... but don't give up.
  I don't recommend making the cement cells anymore as they have high impedance, and will drop in voltage after a while, like most other cells will also.
On the other hand they are a year old and still lighting leds. 

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #317 on: January 23, 2012, 12:46:55 AM »
One of the things I plan to do is to put my finished panel on an oscilloscope to look at the ac component of this current if there is any.If theres AC then how can these batteries act as a diode?If an AC current gets through?Diodes block AC by definition.So if any AC gets through its not a diode.I had solar panels hooked up to a car battery in a corner of my house in Texas.I made some electricity for eight years.I was still hooked up to the grid.So I had both.The truth is most likely it will take another 100 years to make these crystal batteries more powerful and much smaller than what you or I could do today.But when they catch on the human race will be taking them to other star systems in the starships to come.By then money and research will have changed them into power sources.That we can be proud of.Proud that we played a small part.It only takes one person to make a difference.Luther Burbank feeds the world today with the Russet potato.A mutation he spotted and kept alive when others would have walked away.I read a book on him once.He even developed a spineless catus that cattle could eat.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #317 on: January 23, 2012, 12:46:55 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #318 on: January 23, 2012, 12:56:53 AM »
Im not really set up to melt anything or heat anything on the stove.I do have a hotplate.I could glue stuff together.I will be using aluminum duct tape to connect my cells together.A trick that another researcher has already done.I am in the process of getting enough tin can lids together.Not all tin can lids are conductive anymore.Most of them seem to have a thin layer of plastic on them anymore?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #319 on: January 23, 2012, 01:03:44 AM »
If I had 2000 of these cells hooked up in series that would give me 1500 volts.What can a guy do with 1500 volts and very little current?
just a question?He could separate water into hydrogen and oxygen without drawing much current or any current if I understand that Stan Meyers was correct in his knowledge in the operation of his water cell? triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #320 on: January 23, 2012, 01:09:39 AM »
In Texas I worked for a giant company that made electronics smaller and smaller.So 2000 cells could in theory fit on a chip.Not today by you or I but in the future. By people or corporations with big money.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #321 on: January 23, 2012, 01:31:14 PM »
For the time being I have decided not to use tin can lids in my first panel.First I still need about 15 lids. Its hard for me to eat that much Libbys crushed pineapple by myself in a short time.But I have liked to eat eggs and have three or four empty egg (30 count) on hand cartons or flats as they call them.One foot by one foot and two inches high.They are pretty compact So tuesday I will make a panel consisting of 30 cells using copper wire and magnesium metal strip.I will do each cell one at a time.Then 48 hours later work on connecting the cells together.I expect voltages to settle down to about 20 volts as it drys more and more.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #322 on: January 24, 2012, 02:39:21 AM »
4 micro crystal glue cells powering a LED


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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #323 on: January 24, 2012, 05:58:12 PM »
My egg carton 30 cell panel is now drying.Once I had all the metal wires and strips cut and all the materials on hand within arms reach.Putting it together was not so bad.I want to add more glue to each cell at this point.But I am fighting that urge(maybe on the next panel).In 48 hours from now I will pick it up again,test each cell put them in series If good.I used copper wires and magnesium strips.These are the cells I had to stir.Each cell acted like a funnel.The glue and dry stuff went into each cell very nicely.Theres no waste in making this panel.I had to pay attention to detail.Make sure each cell had electrodes in it and facing the right direction.I was out all day yesterday getting last minute supplies for this project.At Home depot I foiund aluminum wire(50 feet on a roll). Bought more elmers glue-all.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #323 on: January 24, 2012, 05:58:12 PM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #324 on: January 24, 2012, 06:12:39 PM »
This guy is really creative when it comes to experimenting.Hes melting his alum and epson salts in a large spoon over a candle.And he has a homemade vacuum chamber.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIz-DbdDqk&feature=relmfu


same guy using a candle to melt his stuff.Very stable readings too Voltages not jumping all over the place.[size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESzzjftzGfg&feature=relmfu[/size]




Same guy he makes his own copper sulfate.  [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=egCfD2B5VRw[/size]


I like this guy,Hes more backwoods chemistry than I am.I could learn a lot from him.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #325 on: January 24, 2012, 08:19:44 PM »
IB2,I like the idea of using soda straws as battery casings.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #325 on: January 24, 2012, 08:19:44 PM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #326 on: January 24, 2012, 10:59:50 PM »
If I were a guessing man and sometimes I am.I would guess that these crystal batteries that we can make in our kitchens and home labs can operate at less than one percent efficiency.That could mean in theory or at least in my dreams,we scould be looking at a 100 folt increase in power for these devices.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #327 on: January 25, 2012, 07:53:48 PM »
Ok tomorrow I start connecting the wires in my 30 cell panel.Today I bought about 25 assorted LEDs to play with.This time I worried about too much power.(burning them out)If I'm not careful.Any way I measured my Cells I made last week and they are about the same.No drops in voltage since the last readings.Best one is 1.06 volts and the tin can lid cells(mg) are holding at about .8 volts easy.The tin can lid cell (copper plated zinc disk) is reading .28 volts. triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #328 on: January 25, 2012, 09:13:55 PM »
  Triffid:
   You don't need to worry about burning out the leds, as there is practically no current, as mentioned before, even less than a single AA battery would have. 
Once you connect the leds as the load,  the voltage from your cells will also drop to about 1/4 or so, of the original unloaded voltage.
   Good luck,
                      NickZ
                                                                               

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #329 on: January 26, 2012, 06:19:58 PM »
The glue cells dried pretty well but since these are the ones I have to stir.I found some really weak ones plus I assumed my aluminum duct tape was conductive(it was not conductive).Since the voltages were not adding up for ten cells I checked the conductivity of the tape I was using and found it was not doing the job of connecting my cells.We all know what they say about assuming stuff.In the process of pulling the tape off of about ten cells I broke the leads to two cells.So I did a reglue on those two.(a redo).I then added more glue to the other eight.
So now the whole thing has to dry again for 48 hours.I need to make some conductive glue.so I need to find some powdered graphite and make my own conductive glue.
I did manage to connect some cells together anyway and got a voltage of almost two volts.But not more.Even with three cells in series.






I assumed something and it made an (...) out of me.Sorry People.I will try again in another 48 hours.triffid

 

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