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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #300 on: January 19, 2012, 11:08:15 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=Q50flSGRC9k  this guy shows that as the heat goes up so does the voltage.He graphs his data.


likewise this guy left the house for a few days and turned off the air conditioner before he left.It got hot in his house.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jGtU6idJTc&feature=related   his voltage increased while he was gone.


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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #301 on: January 19, 2012, 11:43:13 PM »
This guy got 2.55 volts and 110(a tenth of an amp) milliamps from a dry crystal cell.He also uses his toes to hold the voltmeter down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHhUMnYbQag&feature=related  triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #302 on: January 20, 2012, 12:53:50 AM »
Nothing to report the mg/copper cells are so jittery they pop up to 1.1 volts but they do not stay there.My tin can lid cell(with copper plated zinc disk) is holding steady at .31 volts but I expect it to level out at .14 volts after it drys out some more.I am happy to report that the tin can lid cells with mag strips are now sporting healthy voltages at 1.01 and 1.06.Its been 30 hours since they were made.So I will wait to see if my tin can lids cells drop down any futher.
The tin can lid cells were not stirred at all.I still want to find some mag disks as I think similar geometry of electrodes  benefit the collection of energy.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #302 on: January 20, 2012, 12:53:50 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #303 on: January 20, 2012, 12:58:22 AM »
If my tin can lid cells hold their voltage then I will be making panels out of them.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #304 on: January 20, 2012, 02:18:33 AM »
Not to worry I may upgrade to net 10 tomorrow.Or buy a disposable camera take pictures get it developed at a drugstore and order the cd at the same time.Two more weeks maybe.triffid


If you can't get the pictures then don't worry about it.


Most computers now come with web cams that will take picture and video, if your computer doesn't have a web cam you can get them for $10 to $40 on Amazon.com. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=web+cam&x=0&y=0


But like i said if you can't don't worry about it.


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« Reply #304 on: January 20, 2012, 02:18:33 AM »
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Rocks?
« Reply #305 on: January 20, 2012, 04:52:34 AM »
Ibpointless2:
You mentioned earlier about finding rocks to serve as the negative terminal for a cell.  While goofing around in the shop, I performed a quick setup to test your idea.  In a small dish coiled on the bottom was stranded copper wire.  Powdered aquarium carbon on top of the copper wire and felt on top of the carbon and added water.  Here is what I found when applying slight pressure.
Magnesium    1.8 to 1.92 volts
Zinc             1.1 to 1.3 volts
Fools Gold - Iron Pyrite  0.01 to 0.03 volts
Yard Rock     0.35 volts
Antimony      0.45 to 0.5 volts
Lead Sinker   0.55 to 0.6 volts
Hope this helps.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #306 on: January 20, 2012, 07:48:28 AM »
B_rads,What did that yard rock like?Was it flint or just regular rock?Did you add any water to your setup?Was the aquarium charcoal wet or dry?Or was it straight out of the box?IB2,Its not impossible to get pictures.I did not like t-mobile selling me a phone that was lacking in service.The salesman almost grinned about it it seemed.He did try to send the picture but it was held up.And i recalled later that it was to a couple of friends on the phone that I had a very hard time sending a pic to.Not to my email account.Just a tough lesson to learn in the school of hard knocks.There are some net 10 phones at the local family dollar that have cameras.I will be checking them out in the next couple of days.I had net 10 but had no camera in my first phone with them.This store also sells the 50 dollar a month unlimited plan that I can use.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #307 on: January 20, 2012, 08:01:44 AM »
Brad,never mind that one question.I see you added water to your setup.thanks for the info.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #308 on: January 21, 2012, 12:29:17 AM »
53 hours since my last batch of glue power cells were made.  1.19 volts and .89 volts for the mg/copper cells.They are jittery still but those were the top two voltages for them.My tin can lid cells are not so jittery.the one with copper plated zinc disk is still reading steady at .31 volts and the last two tin can lid cells with mg strips on top of them are producing .98 volts and .84 volts.If I have these same voltages tomorrow.Then
1) morton salt sub is the one to use.
2)I will make more tin can lid cells to put into a panel.
I wonder since the crystals are so fragile would a light dose of hairspray keep them intact?
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #308 on: January 21, 2012, 12:29:17 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #309 on: January 21, 2012, 12:48:32 AM »
I think I will use about 20 cells for my first panel.20 times .89 volts =17.8 volts.It would be enough volts to keep a 12 volt car battery topped off.With a blocking diode to keep the battery from running power through the panel.Its how I had my solar panels set up in texas.For eight years.I can run some leds and a radio off of this setup.
i have been thinking about the use of water to recharge some of these batteries.Its not such a bad thing to add a little and extract power from zero point energy for the next three days or longer.I posted a link to a video where the guy recycles the water by having everything inside a 2 liter bottle. And gives it a shake once every few days.I know to avoid water for my cells.But Im not talking about my cells.
What if one one way mankind can get energy from the vacuum is though using water?No need to break it down into oxygen and hydrogen to burn it?Not to get direct electricity from zero point?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #310 on: January 21, 2012, 12:56:07 AM »
This is the researcher I'm talking about   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhhLNjGpqfY&feature=related   What if hes on to something here?
What if his electrodes never corrode?What if water could be used in a NEW WAY to get electricity directly from zero point?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #311 on: January 21, 2012, 02:47:11 AM »
This is the researcher I'm talking about   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhhLNjGpqfY&feature=related   What if hes on to something here?
What if his electrodes never corrode?What if water could be used in a NEW WAY to get electricity directly from zero point?triffid


Yes I've seen Plengo's video's before. He does great work. From all my testing I've found that water is the main reason why metals corrode, but this doesn't mean that we should abandon water completely. Plengo and many others do post over here, this is where my cells got their start from, was from here [size=78%]http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7351-bedini-earth-light.html[/size]


Dealing with water can be tricky, water can and will corrode the metal if you don't use the correct electrolyte or correct metal. What made my cells so great was that they still gave a voltage even when dry.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #312 on: January 21, 2012, 04:34:09 PM »
62 hours after they were made the mg/cu  cells read 1.06 and .68 volts(this one I messed up in its making).The two tin can lid cells made with magnesium read .87 and .76 volts .the tin can lid cell made with copper reads .28 volts.The other one(tin can lid/cu) reads .11volts.
Conclusions,I think I'm getting better at making these cells?
Mg is a power metal for sure
Mortons brand salt sub made the difference.
To get my 17.8 volt panel I will have to use more than 20 cells,24 cells at .78 volts each since I want to use my tin can lid,mag cells for that project.
Whats ahead besides making a panel?Letting these cells dry a little more.Get a more accurate number of volts since they tend to go down some more in volts as they dry some more.Maybe getting some charcoal and sand from my little beach down along the miss.river
everyone have a great day.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #313 on: January 22, 2012, 05:07:45 PM »
Ok  four days have passed since my last cells were made(96 hours).The mg/cu cells are reading .78 and .62 volts. The tin can lid cells with mg are reading .86 and .75 volts.The tin can lid cell with copper plated zinc disk is reading .27 volts.


Since the cells I have to stir are not working properly(im told they need to be at least 1.1 volts when dry).I will use the tin can lids with mg which I do not have to stir to make my 17.8 volt  panel.I will need 24 cells to do that.In order to charge a 12 volt car battery you need about 18 volts coming in from somewhere.I will connect a fully charged battery to my panel and blocking diode.My purpose is to keep the battery topped off only and run some led lights from the car battery for now.No need to start with an empty battery at this time. triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #314 on: January 22, 2012, 06:10:20 PM »
  triffid:
   To get 18 volts into a 12 volt battery you would need many many many cells. As once the cells are connected to the load they will drop to about 1/10 of their starting voltage, plus have no real current to charge with. 
  You might do better charging small AA size rechargeable batteries, first.  But, you may still find that to charge them, you will need some current, which your cells don't have.
 
   Below is a picture of one of my cement cell banks, and no they don't work very well for charging batteries, regardless of how many volts they produce, and are best connected to low draw oscillators.

 

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