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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #195 on: December 09, 2011, 02:01:44 PM »
 Well none that you can detect. You did wrap the cell in paper right? This can be akin to an electrolytic cap when it gets hurt.  But in the cap it can repair itself so to speak. Could be the same and the amount of surface area also needs to be included. One test could be to hook opposite sides of the battery and use a clamp like the hose clamp and see if there is degradation in the cell s normal voltage that way.

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« Reply #196 on: December 10, 2011, 08:13:22 PM »
Well none that you can detect. You did wrap the cell in paper right? This can be akin to an electrolytic cap when it gets hurt.  But in the cap it can repair itself so to speak. Could be the same and the amount of surface area also needs to be included. One test could be to hook opposite sides of the battery and use a clamp like the hose clamp and see if there is degradation in the cell s normal voltage that way.


 Whatever happened to John B. and his semiconductor scheme? I was very interested in that ans nothing came of it... Hmm...

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #197 on: December 11, 2011, 05:11:10 AM »
@jbignes5


I wondering the same thing, what happen to John's semiconductor and his other cells?


The cells could be dead and that's why he's not posting, or he could be too busy making money from his videos and books, lol.


Personally I thought most of his cells were just galvanic, especially the Alum cells. Some cells he mentions one days and the next he wants us to not mention it again. He says he's got a Marcus Reid cell and is studying it but i'm starting to wonder if the Reid cell is the real thing? I sometimes think the hype about bedini can be a little too much, don't get me wrong he's done some good stuff, but he's still just another person.




I'm now wonder what's next? Where do we go from here? do we start powering cars or light bulbs? Do we treat the cells like batteries or do we treat them as a part of a circuit component? Is there another crystal mix out their that makes a even better cell than what any of us have? The season is here and the work on these cells may slow down a bit, but the idea's will still flow. Lets keep up the good work!  ;)




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« Reply #197 on: December 11, 2011, 05:11:10 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #198 on: December 11, 2011, 07:08:15 AM »
 I think John is to stoned these days to really stay focused on his work. As for the cells we are building, I think we still have a long way to go as to finding what combinations work the best. The worst thing is that it is going to take a long time to test each cell before we know which is best and or how long they will last.
 The pressure aproach is very promissing but more testing needs to be done.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #199 on: December 11, 2011, 02:36:46 PM »


 I did see the epsoms salts tests and I knew that epsoms salts was the biggest component. When mixed with the potassium and carbon they form thin needle like growths. I think these are the key crystals we should be looking at... Carbon is really amazing when added to these cells. I really need a microscope to show the crystals.


 *Update* The straight Sodium Carbonate cell with graphite and aluminum electrodes is forming crystals on the bottom of the cell. They are getting to be about 1 mm across now. Slowly adding water to the top of the cell allows the water to filtrate trough the cell and stay in the bottom of the cell.  Very very interesting to say the least. They are solid crystals and clear but I have yet to be able to get to them because they are on the bottom of the cell. I can't wait to dissect this one lol!

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #200 on: December 30, 2011, 03:18:57 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9syWCj8uz4   Crystal cell running super penny oscillator.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #201 on: January 02, 2012, 03:44:37 AM »
Dont know if this was already posted in this thread but I wanted to park it somwhere on overunity and to annouce I will be building some glue power cells myself and am pleased that others here got them to work. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+hutchinson&view=detail&mid=1DFAAD8FAA73F0AEFA561DFAAD8FAA73F0AEFA56&first=0&FORM=LKVR16


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« Reply #202 on: January 02, 2012, 03:50:11 AM »
Dont know if this was already posted in this thread but I wanted to park it somwhere on overunity and to annouce I will be building some glue power cells myself and am pleased that others here got them to work. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+hutchinson&view=detail&mid=1DFAAD8FAA73F0AEFA561DFAAD8FAA73F0AEFA56&first=0&FORM=LKVR16


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I look forward to what you build. The best cell I've made was Elmer's glue, Epsom salt, and salt substitute. I found using copper and magnesium for electrodes works best.  :)

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #203 on: January 02, 2012, 04:57:04 AM »
I have the first one built.It will have to dry .And I have to get a voltmeter from somewhere.The blob has a two inch stainless steel screw in it and a two inch copper wire in it.On a piece of square paper cut from a paper plate that was going into the trash anyway.I just found out over the weekend that john open sourced his crystal battery technology.I was wondering if ordinary table salt did the trick also?Its sodium chloride
with a trace of iodine.We may not want that??Iodine anyway.So are we wanting surface area first?With the metals?  triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #204 on: January 02, 2012, 05:06:40 AM »
I have the first one built.It will have to dry .And I have to get a voltmeter from somewhere.The blob has a two inch stainless steel screw in it and a two inch copper wire in it.On a piece of square paper cut from a paper plate that was going into the trash anyway.I just found out over the weekend that john open sourced his crystal battery technology.I was wondering if ordinary table salt did the trick also?Its sodium chloride
with a trace of iodine.We may not want that??Iodine anyway.So are we wanting surface area first?With the metals?  triffid


Table salt is bad stay away from it. Stick with salt substitute because it has Potassium chloride in it. John Hutchinson cells are not what they seem. Johns cells voltages will die off if no water is given to them. The trick is to create a cell that keeps it voltage even when dry. If a cell needs water to keep its voltage up than its more than likely galvanic, and galvanic batteries die after awhile.

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« Reply #205 on: January 02, 2012, 09:59:53 AM »
There is always a certain amount of water in the air.And there is water locked away in the crystal structure itself.We may want that?If I am correct IB2 that you used no glue in your video of making another blue rod using copper pipe and magnesium strip.Only water,salt substitute and epson salts.If that was your video I will check later to see if it was.I have not been able to sleep tonight .I keep seeing ways to build these cells in my head.In my kitchen I have empty food cans that I wash and save since there are scrap companies paying nine cents a lb for them here in st.Louis,mo.I have three of them inside one another.One end removed.If I work hard enough I might get six inside one another in if I toss in a gallon can somewhere?So instead of copper pipes I use tin cans that usually get tossed anyway.Wrap your paper trick around them wet them down.Use heavy duty aluminum foil around them as the other metal electrode.Slip one inside another if I can.Years ago I read in a boy scout book how to make a homemade capacitor.You use two sheets of aluminum foil with wax paper in between.It could be scaled up to room size if I wanted.If both electrodes are the same metal you do get some power. However,I would make sure those two metals did not come out of the same melting pot!I would use one side heavy duty the other side thin.I want them to be as dissimilar as I can make them!
Anyway I must try to get some sleep.So see you later.Triffid

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« Reply #206 on: January 02, 2012, 10:05:05 AM »
For that roomsized device I would not use wax paper.Some other kind of paper.Free If I can get it.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #207 on: January 02, 2012, 10:56:52 AM »
Ib2,I have gone over the first four pages of this thread and cannot relocate your video that I saw earlier.Where you show us how to make a six inch blue cell?You used black electrical tape to hold down the paper,then using your hands you wet the paper.I worked in manufacturing for over 20 years and it seems that some of the processes here could be automated in a factory?At least at home for a guy who wants to power his home off of these devices.He might need a couple hundred batteries to get some major lights.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #208 on: January 02, 2012, 01:45:36 PM »



Videos on how to may my crystal cells

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9U6GH9vgOI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBy5Km1mAg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EWATxAJooE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ngFfU1hHyM




Just because water is in the crystal lattice does not mean that the electrodes are going to touch the water, if that was true than just sticking electrodes in Epsom salt would give you a voltage. I have had many debates on the topic of water in the crystal with people and to prove that the cell does not use water from the Epsom salt just make a cell that has only Elmer's glue and Epsom salt and leave the salt substitute out, The is cell after a week will start to go dead unlike the crystal cells that contain elmer's glue, epsom salt, and salt substitute which will continue to give you voltage for a long time. If a cell needs constant water to keep the voltage alive than its galvanic, just like Bedini's alum crystal cell. If you want some reading about the crystal cells than I suggest you read the post here [size=78%]http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7351-bedini-earth-light.html[/size] Its a lot of reading but it will get you caught up and see all the crystal cells that have been made.




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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #209 on: January 02, 2012, 09:25:59 PM »
Hi Ib2,the very first video in your last post was the video I had searched for and could not find.Thank you very much for posting it again for me.The second one with the tin can was one I had not seen.The last two I had seen before.Once again thank you for posting those for me.I think that since these crystal cells respond to pressure?.I think it is air pressure maintaining a voltage on these cells.We are the bottom of an air well with 14.7 lbs per square inch over our heads(sea level anyway).You have the uneven heating of the earth by the sun(night and day) Plus the earth is always rotating at about 1000 miles an hour on its axis.So air/weather is always moving around.So it might be we/you are tapping into those energies using your glue cells.Which is fantastic anyway!!To think you might have something that taps into the earths rotation is exciting too!Thank you very much.I don't think the water question is too important.Main thing keep water away from the cells.I get that!Thanks once again.Triffid

 

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