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Offline triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1500 on: December 16, 2012, 08:59:06 PM »
On 12/16/2012 by 11am my time I built six more cells using untreated magnesium strips and pencil lead from number two pencils..I used Elmers glue-all and mortons salt Substitute, epsom salts and added Ultra Dawn dishwashing liquid to each cell.triffid


The idea of using ultra dawn is to create an ionic suspension of casmir plates.Hopefully the ionic suspension will keep the casmir plates apart when the cells dry out. I got the idea when I saw a tv ad about ultra dawn being twice as soapy as non-ultra Joy.The ultra dawn beat out the other soap in breaking the surface tension of the water.In the test tanks I saw on tv.We will see what happens?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1501 on: December 17, 2012, 01:55:03 PM »
I never found my conductive string.But I found something else.A few weeks back I found what was left of a scouring pad that had been run over by a car.The pad was very much destroyed.Two days ago I bought two for a dollar copper plated scouring pads from "Shop and Save",a grocery store here in St.Louis.Using a pair of scissors I cut into one of them over an empty plastic bowl.Lots of little metal pieces resulted that fell into the bowl and not everywhere else.It appears that a single strand of wire is used to weave together one scouring pad
(I could be wrong) but the important thing is that I can out pieces of this wire gauze to make connections between my crystal cells.
The single wire appears to be woven into a wire cloth  and hence pieces of it can be cut out  to serve as conducting connecting pieces between my crystal cells in an egg carton.Soon I will make six more cells using magnesium strips and pencil leads as electrodes.I will add kitty litter to these cells.triffid

Here is conductive string

https://solarbotics.com/search/conductive%20string/

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1502 on: December 17, 2012, 04:32:57 PM »
This morning my electrodes in the six new cells were dry enough to measure their voltages.I got at least 1.85 volts on each one and a max of 1.96 volts on one.All of the cells still have liquid in them.All cells are a blue color from the ultra dawn.
So one fear was groundless.I was afraid the dishwashing soap would be too basic and neutralize the fumaric acid to a point where the cells would produce no voltage.I got voltage!


I now want to wait a couple of weeks for all of the liquid to dry completely before I hook up anything to them.I hope the casmir plates will be held in place by ionic suspension.Even when the cells are bone dry.


So when I hook them up again,If voltages drop then this method does not work.
The magnesium strips are showing a black color(corrosion) on them.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1502 on: December 17, 2012, 04:32:57 PM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1503 on: December 17, 2012, 04:37:11 PM »
Stprue,thanks for the help on the conductive string.I think I can use the pencil leads from number pencils to connect the regular wires to.So my need for conductive string may have vanished?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1504 on: December 17, 2012, 07:17:55 PM »
Have you ever tried to make the John Hutch. cell?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1505 on: December 18, 2012, 10:12:41 PM »
No I have never tried to melt stuff as in the john hutch cell.I have tried to go in into the glue cell direction.Trying to add to it.Trying to improve on it.The gas stove was stolen from my kitchen before I came to this house.I have a hot plate so no real reason not to try to melt something.I just tried to keep everything real simple.Like with the number 2 pencils.I was going to burn the wood off at my brothers fire pit.But I don't get over there a lot.Plus the heat might fracture the graphite rods too much.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1506 on: December 18, 2012, 10:16:07 PM »
Soaking the pencils in tap water came to me after I saw an old pencil in the back alley here shattered from the weather and cars and trucks having run over it.I picked up a piece of lead from that old pencil.brought it inside the house and started thinking about it.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1507 on: December 18, 2012, 10:21:27 PM »
My new cells are not bone dry yet but I took voltages again.They ranged from 1.78 to 1.92 volts.When I left them hooked up for a while the voltages did drop some more.So those casmir plates are still moving together.No way of telling yet if they will reach a mininum and stay there.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1508 on: December 18, 2012, 10:27:50 PM »
The strongest cell was 1.92 volts and .42 milliamps.

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« Reply #1508 on: December 18, 2012, 10:27:50 PM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1509 on: December 18, 2012, 10:48:10 PM »
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/ingredients.htm   Just reposting the link to the household chemicals database.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1510 on: December 25, 2012, 06:30:25 AM »
The pencil leads from the number 2 pencils are strong enough to be clamped onto by the radio shack wires that I already have.So my need for conductive string has all but vanished.I got 9.6 volts total out of six cells connected on Saturday.Its monday night now.Hooked up a red LED to it .It has stayed lit up since then.I took apart nine pencils so I have enough lead(graphite) for more cells.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1510 on: December 25, 2012, 06:30:25 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1511 on: December 25, 2012, 06:33:07 AM »
The Led has been getting dimmer so those casmir plates are getting closer and closer.I will have to try something else.Like kitty litter and ultra dawn?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1512 on: December 25, 2012, 01:50:26 PM »
Could you post a picture if you get time?

Thanks.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1513 on: January 03, 2013, 01:19:34 AM »
Sorry no pics at this time.No camera. Latest cells were made 12/16/2012.On 1/2/2013 voltage for six cells connected in series is .020 volts.LED was not lit up.Will give these cells a rest of a few days and see if voltage comes back a little or a lot.Winter time is here.15 degrees outside 60 or better inside.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1514 on: January 08, 2013, 12:22:38 AM »
Today is Jan 7th,2013.Just tested the voltages of the six cells in series that I disconnected five days ago.Voltage is still .019.Still close enough to the .020 volt reading I got 5 days ago.I conclude that putting a load on these cells cause the casmir plates to move closer and closer to a point where they no longer make electricity.So my ultra dawn experiment has failed to keep the casmir plates apart as I had hoped it would.Now is the time to try another experiment.I will use kitty litter in the next set of cells.

 

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