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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1485 on: October 26, 2012, 07:38:10 AM »
I never found my conductive string.But I found something else.A few weeks back I found what was left of a scouring pad that had been run over by a car.The pad was very much destroyed.Two days ago I bought two for a dollar copper plated scouring pads from "Shop and Save",a grocery store here in St.Louis.Using a pair of scissors I cut into one of them over an empty plastic bowl.Lots of little metal pieces resulted that fell into the bowl and not everywhere else.It appears that a single strand of wire is used to weave together one scouring pad
(I could be wrong) but the important thing is that I can out pieces of this wire gauze to make connections between my crystal cells.
The single wire appears to be woven into a wire cloth  and hence pieces of it can be cut out  to serve as conducting connecting pieces between my crystal cells in an egg carton.Soon I will make six more cells using magnesium strips and pencil leads as electrodes.I will add kitty litter to these cells.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1486 on: November 12, 2012, 01:33:27 AM »
I'm not doing much yet with crystal cells.I did play with capacitors and diodes today.Managed to get .019 volts out of a 220uF 160v capacitor just by holding it.Voltage is not steady,that is a max value.Diodes did worse with a max of .008 volts.triffid






I expanded my air well and its working ok.Still pulling water from the air.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1487 on: November 15, 2012, 03:27:07 AM »
Five months ago on 6/12/2012 I put together six glue cells using dandelion leaf and banana melainin.I made them with three electrodes,copper,magnesium strips and pencil leads.Today after waiting many days I measured their voltages.While the voltages between the copper and magnesium strips were zero.The voltages between the pencil leads and copper wires ranged from .11 volts to .48 volts.The magnesium strips were intact.So something in the banana protected the magnesium strips from the oxalic acid in the dandelion leaf.Funny that I should find a combination that seems to work on preserving the magnesium strips only to set it aside for a few months?Triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1488 on: November 15, 2012, 03:33:26 AM »
The six cells have been left out in the open air and not connected to each other.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1489 on: November 15, 2012, 03:46:34 AM »
I put Duro's superglue on six magnesium strips yesterday.Once it dries its not conductive.Anyway I will put together six more cells today using them.And add banana(for potassium ions),banana melanin and dandelion leaf.triffid


So I put superglue on the magnesium strips and they are not conductive?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1490 on: November 15, 2012, 03:50:11 AM »
Ok I have put together six more dandelion cells,with melanin and extra potassium from the banana.I also used three electrodes;super glue coated magnesium strips,copper wire and pencil lead.They are now drying.I do expect these six cells to turn darker as time goes on.I wish I had some powdered tourmaline.triffid




I seem to be on to something?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1491 on: November 15, 2012, 03:56:58 AM »
I checked the voltages on my latest melanin/dandelion cells made with super glue protected magnesium strips.I found that only one magnesium strip was conductive for me to get a reading.The rest were zeros in volts.So my Duro's superglue makes my magnesium strips nonconductive.The cells have turned a nice dark color.The banana melanin seems superior to the apple melanin.




Remember Melanin converts some of the uv spectrum to simple heat.At a rate of 99.9%.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1492 on: November 15, 2012, 04:00:15 AM »
Ok the cells did get darker and now I realize the banana did not protect the magnesium strips,but their nonconductivity may have?
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1493 on: November 15, 2012, 05:37:48 PM »
I just finished six more glue cells.These six were made with borax treated magnesium strips and pencil leads.I added a pinch or two of alum to each cell then added the epsom salts on top of the alum.The only acid(fumaric acid) in these cells come from the morton salt sub.The magnesium strips should be ok in these cells.The alum used is Sauer's granulated Alum(ammonium).triffid


This is the first time I have used alum in the formation of a cell.
I do understand there are at least two different types of alum.Hopefully I have the right type.To see a power boost.



Today I measured the voltages on these cells.At five months old the voltages ranged from .94 volts to a max of 1.64 volts.
Once again the magnesium strips are firm and unbroken.That comes from using only fumaric acid in the cell.So its not a surprise.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1494 on: November 15, 2012, 05:42:38 PM »
Both sets of six cells have been exposed to the air for 5 months.So if water in the air was going to destroy the voltage it would have
done it by now.Both sets of six cells have not been connected to anything for five months.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1495 on: November 19, 2012, 03:16:02 AM »
Just thinking out loud here.Maybe mixing Duro's superglue with something like powdered carbon will make it conductive?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1496 on: November 26, 2012, 11:18:25 PM »
It turns out that certain bacteria may help create ice crystals at lower temps than we thought.  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/25snow.html?_r=0  and  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudomonas_syringae


Maybe certain bacteria could affect the water in our gluecells?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1497 on: December 03, 2012, 02:39:49 AM »
I bought a package of 22 pencils from family dollar for about $1.65.My intent is to use the pencil lead contained within the pencils as electrodes sometime in the future.I will have to burn the wood off of them to do that.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1498 on: December 12, 2012, 08:29:24 PM »
I showed my rock batteries to another retired chemist.My first cell showed only about .45 volts.
The second cell I showed gave off 1.57 volts.He seemed more impressed with that voltage.As we talked the voltages in both cells continued to decline.These were cells I made back in June(five months ago).And left open to the air.As we were talking the voltages declined.So as energy was being drawn through the casimir plates.The distance between the plates grew smaller and smaller.Giving me less and less voltage.Water vapor does not seem to destroy the voltage by itself.The cells under a load get weaker and weaker.triffid



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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1499 on: December 16, 2012, 12:12:39 AM »
I have figured out how to remove most of the pencil lead from a number two pencil without using a fire.
I soaked my 20 pencils(not 22 as I had said earlier) in tap water for three days straight.Using a pair of pliers I then crunched the wood gently up and down the pencil to split the wood.Using my fingers I was able to split the wood off from the pencil exposing most of the pencil lead unbroken.The pencil lead from a number two pencil is many times thicker than the mechanical pencil leads I was using.I will build six more cells using the new source of pencil leads and magnesium strips tomorrow.triffid