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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1365 on: June 15, 2012, 04:56:21 PM »
I went to family dollar today and bought some products that have some good chemicals in them.A styptic pencil($1.50),it contains 56% Aluminum Sulfate and the rest seems to be titanium dioxide.Then"magic shaving powder"($1.25,it was on sale),It contains corn starch,Barium Sulfide,and benzyl benzoate.triffid


My latest cells with pencil leads and magnesium electrodes are producing 1.72 to 1.8 volts.The cells are still wet.Will try connecting them altogether(6 cells) tomorrow.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1366 on: June 15, 2012, 10:44:08 PM »
Aloha i just want to say thank you the years of effort and experimentation have been truly inspirational.
I also have been experimenting for a few years now and came up with the same results as you.
It is not galvanic.  or the galvanic process is slowed which i think it is.
I have had quite alot of success with this mixture    (borax, alum. Sugar.  White glue, copper and magnesium)
Great voltage, and longevity
It seems the rapid deteration of the magnesium can be slowed or halted by the use of sodium substitutions.
I like borax it seems to provide a bond and when mixed with the glue instantly starts to become a polymer so getting it on the anode and cathode quickly while wet is key.  It dries fast.
I am also thinking that it might be thermodynamic reactions of crystals vs insulating polymer giving temperature differences resulting in thermoelectric reactions.
Aloha and thank you again
Murf

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1367 on: June 18, 2012, 05:53:26 AM »
Thank you Murf for your kind words of encouragement.Sometimes I grind to nearly a halt because of some kind of nuts and bolts problem.My flexible wire was not flexible and limber enough to keep from snapping two of my pencil leads.I had good volts but if I cannot connect them?




More on ZPE here http://www.chuckwadeufo.com/ChuckWadeUFO/altenergy5.html[ not quite crystal cells but still drawing power from the vacuum.

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« Reply #1368 on: June 18, 2012, 05:56:40 AM »

In July 2006 Dr. Tom Bearden and a colleague placed onto the internet a method (calledAdapted NRAM) for a heat amplification process that captures and uses energy from that HUGE energy source. It will take some engineering, but when this process is placed into service it has the potential of STOPPING the use of fuel to produce heat. What if all our coal, gas, oil, biomass, and nuclear power plants could be converted to the Adapted NRAM process?


This is how the heat amplification process works: Use one “part” of the tiny component of ordinary electricity to power an infra-red bulb (something like the heat lamps we are familiar with). The heat from the bulb heats some nano-sized (very, very small) particles. The particles vibrate and draw into themselves energy from that HUGE energy component that we have been wasting, 18 times more energy than the one part of electricity that was used to heat the particles. The particles then radiate out 18 times as much energy in the form of heat as was used to turn on the infra-red bulb. This excess energy drawn from the Huge energy flow can now take the place of the coal, gas, oil, biomass, or nuclear type fuel that would have been used to fuel the power plant.


A big blownup diagram of NRAM: http://www.chuckwadeufo.com/ChuckWadeUFO/altenergy5_files/Adapted%20NRAM%202009.pdf


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« Reply #1369 on: June 18, 2012, 04:55:14 PM »
So powdered tourmaline crystals(or something like it) would be our source of photons from ZPE.Hence number three in the NRAM diagram in the posted link above would start applying itself to our crystal cells.3 thru 11.triffid

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« Reply #1370 on: June 19, 2012, 01:26:46 AM »
Murf,you said, It seems the rapid deterioration of the magnesium can be slowed or halted by the use of sodium substitutions.
I did use what I guess what was a calcium salt of oxalic acid(calcium oxalate)(black pepper).My magnesium strips still snapped from slight handling.


My last cells had nothing in them that would attack the magnesium strips.The main problem now is that the pencil leads are so brittle.They snap at too rough a touch.The voltages are very good.  1.89 volts and .5mAs from one cell.  1.65 volts in the lowest cell.


I bought a couple of diodes from radio shack today to see if I could get any voltages from them.For the most part they did not seem to generate any voltage unless I touched them and became part of the circuit.They were rated 50 volts and three amps.They were epoxy rectifier diodes.triffid

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« Reply #1371 on: June 20, 2012, 06:13:32 AM »
Aloha thank you for the response as out here on Kauai not many peers into this kind.
I some how retarded the decay process not sure how but i think its in the ratios. I mix very small amounts of all ingredients a few grains of the crystals mostly alum. But a single drop of glue and just enough crystals to make it all gum up but very small amounts. Perhaps i can also discuss the thermoelectric idea. Three states of matter actually more but lets focus on three solid, liquid, gas. All are temperature dependent. solid crystals = cold.  Liquid= mid.  Gas = hot.  now think  of anode and cathode one gets hot the other cold flow is established. The need for energy to flow from hot to cold to find equlibrium = dead battery. You are hot more so than the metals you touch energy is transfered via convection or conduction. I think are the same. But that heat compiles to give alt readings. Research led me down the path of heat because we can simply touch somthing to see if there is a differences. Of course this led to fingerprints on everything.
I starded looking into heat measurement and alot of egoic debate on which scale is best i ended up finding out that room temp average is 23 degrees centigrade, = about 73 degrees Fahrenheit = 296 degrees Kelvin this gave me a starting point for average room temp to compare too. Then the fun part finding temperatures for specific heat in periodic table. I can see the pattern emerging of heat being key to electron flow. So i put a peice of copper tape in a jar with magnesium and lit the magnesium on fire the result is the tape covered in very thin layer of magnesium oxide on the sticky side of tape then i roled the tape onto a peice of copper the strange thing is i get a small flow but the resistance is high. I want to make nanotubes if anyone knows how? Other things can hydrogen be produced by a foxhole radio? And if you take the action of a stirling engine and make friction to heat the plate will it ?
Just some thoughts. Trying to find out
Thank you
Murf
Oh ps i use copper instead of carbon rod.  copper is easier for me to work with even if i do drop .15th of a volt
Aloha
« Last Edit: June 20, 2012, 07:23:35 AM by Murfedit »

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« Reply #1372 on: June 21, 2012, 04:37:46 PM »
Hi Murf,I like your method of putting magnesium oxide on copper.Use a magnifying glass to burn stuff inside a closed jar(I did that in high school).Nanotubes are carbon so burning a lump of charcoal inside a closed jar could give you some carbon?I have heard that charcoal from a fire on the beach is conductive.I used to lit matches inside a closed jar with a magnifying lens.The jar would quickly fill up with vapors/smoke.I have not thought of that in years.I bought some safety pins from family dollar today.60 count for $1.00. ten small safety pins are brass.the rest stainless steel.triffid

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« Reply #1373 on: June 21, 2012, 04:43:48 PM »
Murf,A foxhole radio does not produce enough power to break water down.Water needs about 1.12 volts to break down with brute force electrolysis.  .37 volts will break urea into hydrogen and carbon monoxide.And urea comes from urine.Among other places.I have not had the nerve to electrolyze urine.triffid

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« Reply #1374 on: June 21, 2012, 08:23:15 PM »
O lol i know its steril and everything but not desprate enough yet to try urine yet but ill keep it in mind. 
I am thinking about the crystal radio  and if it is tuned properly the correct wave could break apart hydrogen bonds.
I think ill try that next i have one crystal radio ill try to put 2 in series and see what kind of effects tuning them will produce then if i still get nothing ill pee all over it hehe.
Yeah the burning in a jar is fun the magnesium is really beautiful.
Thanks again Aloha
Murf

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« Reply #1375 on: June 22, 2012, 07:23:29 AM »
Hi Murf,I did measure the output of a crystal set once and got .04 volts on my voltmeter.I don't think you can hook up the output of two of them together.If you can do it report it back to us of course.triffid

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« Reply #1376 on: June 22, 2012, 07:26:14 AM »
My stainless steel safety pins are attracted to a magnet.So are my brass pins that came with them.Not solid brass as I thought?triffid

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« Reply #1377 on: June 22, 2012, 07:53:08 AM »
I think absolutely anything can be magnatized with enough gause.  Just a thought.
I watched how neodymium magnets are made prety crazy that electricity and magnetism are two sides of the same coin i also realized the lines of flux when looking at a magnet dont move im starting to wonder if there is actually a resonance of each individual magnet the first line being the first harmonic and so forth i need to make a oscillator that tunes to that harmonic. I surf alot and noticed all waves act the same and if thats true just as a surfer needs too be in the correct place on the wave face to be pushed i am wondering how that can be applied to other waves. In an acoustic resonant chamber levitating objects and controllably moving works on the same principals of surfing.
I have so many thoughts and it is very nice too be able to talk about them.
Thank you
Murf
Oh i need to find the resonance of hydrogen and oxygen if  you happen to know
Mahalo

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« Reply #1378 on: June 23, 2012, 04:52:24 PM »
When I was in high school,I was lucky enough to have a chemistry teacher to do wave generation experiments in the lab.I got to see constructive and destructive wave generation with my own eyes.There are a lot of answers here at overunity.If you have a question ,type it into the search box at the top of this page.Click on "search" at the top of this page,type in your question(s).See where it leads you.
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« Reply #1379 on: June 23, 2012, 07:05:10 PM »
I'm working on a joule thief today .triffid

 

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