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Offline triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1290 on: June 05, 2012, 04:29:00 AM »
Just thinking out loud here.If melanin can convert uv radiation to 99.9% simple heat.Why are we not using it for simple thermal applications?
I did buy a few bananas today.I want to add melanin to my next cells also.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
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« Reply #1291 on: June 06, 2012, 12:27:15 AM »
I made six more dandelion cells today.Three electrodes(copper,treated with borax magnesium strips,and pencil lead)are in each cell.I also added melanin from an apple.Tomorrow I hope to read voltages.triffid






I have not found conductive string yet.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1292 on: June 06, 2012, 02:31:39 AM »
I made six more dandelion cells today.Three electrodes(copper,treated with borax magnesium strips,and pencil lead)are in each cell.I also added melanin from an apple.Tomorrow I hope to read voltages.triffid

I have not found conductive string yet.
I am guessing that you added more acorbic acid than melanin, but nature put them together right?
Are you just using mechanical pencil leads for electrodes? Conductive string is called wire! j/k ;)
Happy experimenting,
PC

Where did that IB fella get to? This is his thread...  ???

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1292 on: June 06, 2012, 02:31:39 AM »
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Offline triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1293 on: June 06, 2012, 04:11:47 AM »
Hi PC,No ascorbic acid except what comes in the dandelion leaf.I did manage to get volt readings.1.58 volts for pencil lead and magnesium strips,then 1.33 volts between copper and magnesium.I was hoping that IB2 read my gasoline pill stories.I hope PB is ok too.triffid


Vitamin C is not good for melanin for some reason.I forget why.Will have to look it up again.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1294 on: June 06, 2012, 04:13:41 AM »
I also added extra borax to these cells.I got mechanical pencil leads from family dollar 12 ct for $1.00.triffid

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Offline NickZ

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1295 on: June 06, 2012, 04:31:18 AM »
 
    Guys:
    If you go to the Energetic Forum, "Bedini Earth Lights" thread, you'll see where Ib2 is at. I've been having a great time exchanging ideas with him lately.
 
   If you guys try the activated carbon, and magnesium, or aluminum, you will find that you will have immediate results. Up to 100 mAs. Like Brad has shown, or I've mentioned previously
  B_rads has shown you his set up, it can be made into many different shapes, I have also mentioned mine, but it looks like you would like to do you own thing. I understand that. Sometimes doing your own thing and finding your own results is the best approach.
  Activated carbon is very cheap, and so is aluminum tubing, or copper caps, etz.. You already have the Epsom, and salt substitute, but you might want to try adding the little silica gel also, as it will maintain the moisture in the cells. Remember the bigger the electrodes, the more output you'll get. A short piece of wire means little usable output current.
 Hope this helps,
  Best wishes,
                          NickZ

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1296 on: June 06, 2012, 01:48:47 PM »
 
    Guys:
    If you go to the Energetic Forum, "Bedini Earth Lights" thread, you'll see where Ib2 is at. I've been having a great time exchanging ideas with him lately.
 
   If you guys try the activated carbon, and magnesium, or aluminum, you will find that you will have immediate results. Up to 100 mAs. Like Brad has shown, or I've mentioned previously
  B_rads has shown you his set up, it can be made into many different shapes, I have also mentioned mine, but it looks like you would like to do you own thing. I understand that. Sometimes doing your own thing and finding your own results is the best approach.
  Activated carbon is very cheap, and so is aluminum tubing, or copper caps, etz.. You already have the Epsom, and salt substitute, but you might want to try adding the little silica gel also, as it will maintain the moisture in the cells. Remember the bigger the electrodes, the more output you'll get. A short piece of wire means little usable output current.
 Hope this helps,
  Best wishes,
                          NickZ


 Great time? Exchanging ideas? There is no exchange on either side.


 Why bring that fight here? Because thats what it is. A fight... Go fight there.


 IK agree the carbon aluminum is a good choice on your end. My experiences with it have been very interesting. Adding Borax to the carbon or layering the aluminum with a crusting of borax as a barrier/repair mechanism. The right mix ratios might yeild better results. I drew 1.6 volts at a pretty good current with a rather large cap can. Graphite rod was my positive electrode. Copper would be my choice(untested).




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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1296 on: June 06, 2012, 01:48:47 PM »
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1297 on: June 06, 2012, 04:01:19 PM »
  There is no fight only opinions that are unsubstantiated, more like wishful thinking. But, the facts are sometimes hard to demonstrate, in any case, this is an important topic, still.
  Glad that you are having some results with your tests.
  You will not hear from me again, so not to worry about that. Thanks again. 
  Just wanted to let you know what you were both wondering concerning his whereabouts, and to remind you how you can obtain quick immediate result, if interested.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1298 on: June 06, 2012, 04:52:35 PM »
Thanks Nick and BigJ! I haven't been over there (EF) but I keep hearing about the 'discussions'. I have been messing around with JTs lately but those will be used in conjunction (hopefully) with my homemade cells... Maybe I will get time to go through my old cells again and see if anything anomalous shows up. I will be sticking to aluminum and carbon electrodes for a while, gotta do something with all that power LOL!!!
@ triffid: If you used part of an apple in your cells you got some vitamin c in there... ;)
Happy experimenting,
PC

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1299 on: June 06, 2012, 08:38:11 PM »
PC, you are right there is some vitamin C in an apple,Hopefully not too much. To hurt the melanin?I hope that by going in a different direction we can discover something?I hope to discover something new myself.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1300 on: June 06, 2012, 08:53:24 PM »
I have tried making larger cells(than an egg carton)but ended up upset at the waste of materials.The glue,the epson salts,and the salt sub.
I prefer to stay small until I have a favorite mix figured out.I have not tried my ferrous oxalate yet.With organic sources of chemicals for my cells I can get pricey chemicals for free or nearly so.The small size of the egg cartons makes sure those chemicals has a chance to be distributed throughout such a small volume.Egg cartons work very well for me at this point. triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1301 on: June 07, 2012, 03:54:06 AM »
I am getting good results(voltages with my latest cells).The borax treated magnesium/pencil lead gives me 1.75 volts to 1.81 volts and the borax treated magnesium/copper electrodes give me 1.3 to 1.45 volts.The apple melanin has darkened the cells.So my apple bits worked it seems.The pencil leads are brittle but I only broke two and was still able to get volt readings.I need that conductive string to make connections.




The apple melanin seems soluble in water and theres not enough vitamin C to prevent it from forming.
Now to see if the additional borax keeps the borax treated magnesium strips from breaking.
Remember the borax treated magnesium strips are black colored and conductive.
The alum treated magnesium strips were white and not conductive.Also in the alum solution the magnesium strips were dissolving
and not dissolving in the borax solution.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1302 on: June 07, 2012, 04:07:31 AM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1303 on: June 07, 2012, 03:45:34 PM »
Nice numbers triffid! If the cells are turning brown I would guess there is some vitamin c in there. The cells I made with vitamin c a couple months ago are fairly dark brown now. I like how you are reusing stuff, way more earth friendly.
Happy experimenting,
PC

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #1304 on: June 07, 2012, 04:06:11 PM »
PC,we need to look at the EF a little bit.Seems that chili powder might give us a power boost.Someone made a 500mA battery using it.And h2o2.If I could get 20mAs out of it I would be happy.triffid




I already have red cayenne pepper.I need to see what else is in chili pepper.

 

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