Author Topic: Is 26 guage, 0.40 mm wire too thin for both cols on Bedini ssg? (Read 15329 times)

gregted · « **on:** October 21, 2011, 06:10:08 PM »

Hi all,
I have just pulled apart a transformer from a microwave and inside is a coil of about 26 guage/0.40mm wire.
I am making a Bedini ssg motor and want to use this wire for both coils in this circuit.
I know the instructions call for two different sizes of wire to be in the bifilar coil but this wire is free and I was wondering if anybody has wound a coil with this thickness of wire.
Thanks.
Greg

NerzhDishual · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2011, 10:18:50 PM »

@Gregted

Welcome to the OU dot com club!

I have built some Bedini's SSGs.
You can consult : http://freenrg.info/Bedini/Replications/
As far as I can remember 2 of these 'motors' do not have 2 different sizes of wire.
I used 0.5 mm but #26 gauge (0.4mm) should be OK.

Very Best

gregted · « **Reply #2 on:** October 23, 2011, 03:43:29 AM »

Thanks for the reply. I am getting frustrated with this circuit. I have tried many different coils with varying amounts of windings from 200 to 1100 and coils with same size wire and two different sizes of .4 and 1.0mm.
I have tried the original weak magnets, some stronger ones and some super strong ones.
I have tested the coil and found that you only need 200 winds to get 5 ohms resistance with 0.4 mm wire.
I have set everything up exactly as the original schematic.
I have noticed that no matter what coil I use, I can only read .03 pulse across the base to emitter.
If I disconnect the charge battery, I get s light on the neon without the skate wheel spinning.
This won't beat me, but I'm running out of options.
Any help appreciated.
Greg

NerzhDishual · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2011, 05:40:52 PM »

@Gregted

Have you made these 2 tests:
http://freenrg.info/Bedini/Replications/SSG_Test_1.GIF
http://freenrg.info/Bedini/Replications/SSG_Test_2.GIF

What do you use for the core of the bifilar coil?

Theoretically, the neon should not light if the charge bat is disconnected *and* the rotor is not spinning. Your circuit seems to behave as a joule thief...
See attached picture

Very Best

gregted · « **Reply #4 on:** October 23, 2011, 11:29:45 PM »

I m using soft wire cut into lengths as the core.
Test no 1 works fine but I get only .03 volts or zero with test 2 regardless of the type of coil with or without a center core.
If I short the collector to base, the wheel rotates but hangs up after a while so this is bypassing the trigger circuit.
I will buy the Lincoln R60 welding wire today and try that as a core.
I am getting the coil wound professionally at the local motor rewinding shop today with 0.5 and 0.8 so I hope this helps.
My coil former is from a roll of soldering wire and is plastic, 5cm long, 5cm wide with a core of 2cm.
Thanks again for your help so far. I know when I find the problem, It is going to be something really simple but at least I will know what doesn't work.
Greg

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