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Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« on: September 13, 2011, 09:42:55 PM »
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Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine

This includes:
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 2. Capillaries
 3. Wedge Magnets
 (This is a top down view. No gravity involved.)
 

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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 07:37:01 PM »
Before I built this, I figured it would fail for one of a number of reasons:

1. Ferrofluids would not be subject to capillary action.
2. If ferrofluids are subject to capillary action, then the fluid could not be pulled out of the capillary.
3. If the ferrofluid could be pulled out of the capillary, then it would not break off and drip.
4. If the ferrofluid did break off and drip, then it would pile up in line with the lines of flux running through the magnetic fluid in the capillary and not move to the greatest part of the second magnet.

I found out that ferrofluids are subject to capillary action, they will spike out beyond the end of the capillary, they will break off and drip, and once on the face of the second magnet they will move to the greatest part of the second magnet.

A simple explanation of the details of this machine can be found at:

http://www.continuousfrictionedmotionmachine.com/

A very boring video of how to make this machine (but clear enough than anyone can replicate what I did) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1KdEcAqMU

To see the ferrofluid move through the capillary fast forward to the end of the second video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_I2qOVFVwo&feature=related

And if you’re interested and just interested in seeing it drip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZE35HDuYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKPZP0bbrxY

Thank you for considering this machine.

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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 08:13:21 PM »
Nice thoughts.   Physical properties usage.  Do you think it would work just in normal gravity like earth or also anywhere?   Keep trying and thinking about it. 

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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 07:27:39 PM »
Hope: “Nice thoughts.”

Thank you.

Hope: “Do you think it would work just in normal gravity like earth or also anywhere?”

Anywhere.  Gravity is not a factor.  In the ones I’ve built here on Earth the movement is perpendicular to gravity.  It doesn’t move with or against gravity.

1. The fluid moves to the thickest part of the wedge shaped magnet, because this is greater magnetic field.
2. The fluid moves into and to the end of the capillary, due to capillary action.
3. The fluid spikes out beyond the end of the capillary as ferrofluids have a tendency to spike along the lines of flux.
4. The fluid breaks off from the end of the capillary and “drips” onto the weakest part of the second magnet because when at the end of the capillary the fluid is so much closer to the weakest part of the second magnet (than it is to the strongest part of the first magnet) that this (the weakest part of the second magnet) is the stronger magnetic field.
5. And once at the weakest part of the second magnet, it’s in a position equivalent to where it started, and so it then moves to the thickest (greatest) part of the second magnet ( … and the process begins all over again).

There would be no reason, that I can see, why all this couldn’t work just as easily in free space.

Hope: “Physical properties usage.”

If I understand what you mean, I agree.

There are two ways, I can see, to disprove a perpetual motion machine design.  One is to say “given the laws of physics such a machine can’t be built.”  And the other is to look at the mechanics of the design and say “the mechanics of physics don’t work this way.”

Sure, if we accept that the Law of Energy Conservation is not falsifiable, that there is no possibility of finding an exception to this law, then from 30 thousand feet away we can say that any machine that purports to violate this law cannot, does not, work.  But “falsifiability” is the hallmark of a scientific theory.  And if the Law of Energy Conservation is not falsifiable then it is a religious belief and not a scientific theory.

The right way, in my opinion, to analyze a pmm design is to look at the physical properties, the mechanics, and how they’re supposed to work.  “Does the physical world work in the way the design intends it to work?”  In this case, I wasn’t sure it would until I built it.  But it did. 

Thank you.

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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 10:10:24 PM »
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Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine

This includes:
 1. Ferrofluids
 2. Capillaries
 3. Wedge Magnets
 (This is a top down view. No gravity involved.)
I think I did not quite get what you said. Do you mean:

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Now it shoud be more easy for everyone to GOOGLE the word "FERROFLUID" and then hit this thread ;D ;D If you're going to sell anything, try EBAY ;)

NO - Ferrofluid does not have the properties of overunity. I have already tried this and other designs with ferrofluid. It will unfortunatly not work. It only mess up my clothings with muck that is HARD to wash away. Besides, cheap ferrofluids on the internet stores dries out. It's not suitable for anything but getting dirty cloths. The more expencive ferrofluids (ferro-OIL) is the product to look for.

Good luck with your ad-words somewhere else, Christopher ;)

Don't mean to be nasty, but I couldn't help myself,  :)

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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
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Re: Continuous Frictioned Motion Machine
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 08:29:46 PM »
Ouch.


Vidar:  "Now it shoud be more easy for everyone to GOOGLE the word "FERROFLUID" and then hit this thread If you're going to sell anything, try EBAY:

Yes, I did include the first line of words for google searches.  I look up perpetual motion machines on google, and figured other people interested in this topic do too.  I figured different people use different words; like "over unity" or "free energy".  My purpose was to make this idea find_able for anyone interested in such machines that invole ferrofluids.  I'm sorry if it looked like an ad.


Vidar: "I have already tried this and other designs with ferrofluid. It will unfortunatly not work."

I realize we are not on good terms right now, but I'd be interested in the designs and results, even the failed results, you tried and found.

Vidar: "It only mess up my clothings with muck that is HARD to wash away."

Yes.  This comment lets me know you really did what you say you did.  This has been my experience as well.  (409 seems to work the best as cleaning up walls, clothes, and such.)

Vidar: "Besides, cheap ferrofluids on the internet stores dries out."

This has been my experience too.  I've built several of these machines and they all come to a stop when the ferrofluids dry up.  I tried putting some in a zip lock bag with a wet sponge, but, while they run longer, the ferrofluids still dry up over time.  I'm working now on trying to get this machine to work submerged in water.  Fortunately ferrofluids don't mix with water.

Vidar: "The more expencive ferrofluids (ferro-OIL) is the product to look for."

Thank you for the tip.

Vidar: "Good luck with your ad-words somewhere else, Christopher"

Again, I'm sorry for the miscommunication.  I was trying to make it easy for people interested in over unity, perpetual motion, free energy, and wedge magnets, capillaries, and ferrofluids to find this discussion.

While your comments sting, I do appreate you considering my idea.

Thank you.









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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 12:56:34 PM »
Before I built this, I figured it would fail for one of a number of reasons:

1. Ferrofluids would not be subject to capillary action.
2. If ferrofluids are subject to capillary action, then the fluid could not be pulled out of the capillary.
3. If the ferrofluid could be pulled out of the capillary, then it would not break off and drip.
4. If the ferrofluid did break off and drip, then it would pile up in line with the lines of flux running through the magnetic fluid in the capillary and not move to the greatest part of the second magnet.

I found out that ferrofluids are subject to capillary action, they will spike out beyond the end of the capillary, they will break off and drip, and once on the face of the second magnet they will move to the greatest part of the second magnet.

A simple explanation of the details of this machine can be found at:

http://www.continuousfrictionedmotionmachine.com/

A very boring video of how to make this machine (but clear enough than anyone can replicate what I did) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH1KdEcAqMU

To see the ferrofluid move through the capillary fast forward to the end of the second video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_I2qOVFVwo&feature=related

And if you’re interested and just interested in seeing it drip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZE35HDuYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKPZP0bbrxY

Thank you for considering this machine.
I have added this comment on youtube:
"Nice try. You can do this under water when the paper straws are saturated with ferrofluid. Then the ferrofluid will not dry out and stop the process. What happens after the ferrofluid has complete the loop? Will it just continue, or will it saturate some how and finally stop the process?"

Maybe you can answer the question here?

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 01:08:41 PM »
Here is my experiment wil buoyancy effect in ferro fluid. I placed a straw between two magnets with ferrofluid in between. I expected that the air inside the straw would move upwards. It doesn't...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8407.msg214667#msg214667

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 06:41:48 PM »
Whew, sounds like we’re on better terms.

Vidar:  “You can do this under water when the paper straws are saturated with ferrofluid.”

You really seem to know your stuff.  I’ve put one under water so far, and I did exactly what you suggest I do.  I let the ferrofluid saturate the rolled up paper towels and start the dripping process before putting it under water.  (This way the ferrofluid filled up the capillaries in the paper towel before the water does.)  And, under water, it continued to drip.

After being placed under water, one of the rolled paper towels stopped dripping after a couple of days, while the other one dripped for weeks.  However, it, too, eventually came to a stop.  I don’t know why.

I’m experimenting with more under water, to see if I can figure out why it came to a stop, and how to overcome this. 

Vidar:  “Then the ferrofluid will not dry out and stop the process.”

Yep.  They came to a stop for some other reason.  The ferrofluid never dried out.

Vidar:  “What happens after the ferrofluid has complete the loop?”

It joins the puddle of ferrofluid on the other side from where it started, at the base of the other capillary, where it can then loop and loop again.

Vidar:  “Will it just continue, or will it saturate some how and finally stop the process?”

After the ferrofluid drips across the gap, it is in an equivalent position to where it started.  It should be able to continue the process over and over again.

My machines have problems, but I think they are problems with the materials and the setup, not problems with the overall design. 

BTW:

The amount of movement in these machines is very small.  The drips are about half the size of a tear drop.  They drip across a quarter inch gap.  And they occur about once every half hour.

BTW2:

I’ve tried different ways to make the capillaries:

1. Drinking straw within a drinking straw.
2. Two glass plates pressed together.
3. A sponge cut down to the size of a drinking straw.
4. A rolled up paper towel the size of a drinking straw.

In all four, the ferrofluid was subject to capillary action, and moved to the end of the capillaries.  But in the first two it did not spike out beyond.  While in the second two it did spike out and drip.

My suspicion is that in order to get the fluid to spike there needs to be a greater amount of magnetic flux channeled through the capillaries.  In the second two there is more ferrofluid in the capillaries, and so more magnetic flux channeled through this area.

Vidar:  “Here is my experiment wil buoyancy effect in ferro fluid.”

Cool design.

My guess is that this will end up with the same problem as in the classic perpetual motion design where a string of balls is looped together and one half of the loop is placed in a column of water. 

Buoyancy comes from there being a difference in pressure from the fluid on top and on the bottom of the submerged object.  This difference gives a certain amount of upward push.  This also means, however, if you try to push an object from outside the column of fluid into the bottom of that column you have pressure pushing down on the object without any pressure pushing up.  And if you do the calculations the maximum amount of upward pressure you can get on the string of balls in the fluid, is exactly equal to the pressure you need to overcome at the bottom of the column of fluid to get the next stringed ball in.

(For there to be buoyancy, pressure must increase with depth, and so the pressure at the bottom of the column of fluid is greater than anywhere else in the column.)

I’ve never thought about your design before, but this is my guess. 

If the magnets hold the ferrofluid in place (and so the fluid is not resting on the fluid below it) then you could eliminate the problem of too much pressure at the bottom of the column, but you’d also have no buoyancy (no greater pressure on the bottom than on the top) on the submerged objects, and so no upward push.

Or,

If the magnets only partially support the ferrofluid (if the fluid is resting, somewhat, on the fluid below it), then this would simply reduce the increase in pressure with depth, and while you’d have less pressure to overcome at the bottom of the column of fluid, you’d also have less pressure difference on the submerged objects and so less upward push.  It’d be like putting the string of balls in a less dense fluid.  And we’d end up with the same problem as in the classic design: the maximum amount of upward push on the submerged objects would be exactly the same as the pressure to be overcome at the bottom of the fluid.

I’m guessing that what happens is the second of these two situations.  If you were to only put a drop of ferrofluid along the magnets, it’d stay with the magnets, but drop down to the bottom.  And the only way to get a column of ferrofluid is to add more and more fluid, which rests (in part) on the fluid below.

Now, if this is true, then it is a mystery to me why in your experiment you found no buoyancy effect on the submerged straw. 

Is it possible that there was some buoyant force on the submerged straw, but given that the fluid was partially supported by the magnets, that this force was very small and just not detectable?

Thanks for the link.  It’s a cool design.

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2011, 07:02:33 PM »


Vidar:  “Will it just continue, or will it saturate some how and finally stop the process?”

Oh yeah, one other thing you might be getting at.

It’s my understanding that a magnetorheological fluid is subject to particle sedimentation while a ferrofluid is not. These two “smart fluids” are essentially the same thing with their difference being in the size of the particles. The size difference is important however, in that in a ferrofluid the particles are nanoparticles and therefore subject to Brownian motion and so do not settle under normal conditions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetorheological_fluid


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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 08:18:03 PM »
You have many good points in your reply regarding my experiment with this fluid. Your experiment will eventually fail too. As a magnet gets saturated with ferro fluid the magnet will loose its "arm length" so it cannot grab the ferro fluid at the end of the capilary tube. Your device will work for a while until the magnetic flux is consentrated around the ferro fluid which is piled up.

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 09:38:48 PM »
Vidar: “As a magnet gets saturated with ferro fluid the magnet will loose its "arm length" so it cannot grab the ferro fluid at the end of the capilary tube. Your device will work for a while until the magnetic flux is consentrated around the ferro fluid which is piled up.”

Are you suggesting that the strength of the magnetic field will be pulled closer into the magnet when ferrofluid is present (and closer and closer into it in the presence of more and more ferrofluid) than when there is no ferrofluid present?

If so, my guess is that it should actually work the opposite way.

Imagine I have a magnet and a metal ball bearing.  The ball bearing is several inches away from the magnet and I get a measurement of how much pull there is on the ball bearing from the magnet.  If I then take another ball bearing and fix it in place half way between the first ball bearing and the magnet, and take another reading on how much pull there is on the first ball bearing, I would expect there to be more.  I would expect the middle ball bearing to channel the strength of the magnetic field out farther.

And it’s my guess that ferrofluids (small little pieces of metal suspended in a fluid) would work the same way.  I would think that they’d extend the strength of magnetic field out farther.

Thank you for the issue.  I need to investigate and not just speculate.  I’ll look around the web and see if I can find anything.

(And please let me know if I misunderstood what you were suggesting in the quote above.)

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 06:30:10 PM »
Are you suggesting that the strength of the magnetic field will be pulled closer into the magnet when ferrofluid is present (and closer and closer into it in the presence of more and more ferrofluid) than when there is no ferrofluid present? The ferrofluid will guide the flux loop closer to the magnet, and shield the magnet from attracting magnetic objects. The more fluid, the better is the magnetic shielding.

If so, my guess is that it should actually work the opposite way.

Imagine I have a magnet and a metal ball bearing.  The ball bearing is several inches away from the magnet and I get a measurement of how much pull there is on the ball bearing from the magnet.  If I then take another ball bearing and fix it in place half way between the first ball bearing and the magnet, and take another reading on how much pull there is on the first ball bearing, I would expect there to be more.  I would expect the middle ball bearing to channel the strength of the magnetic field out farther.
No. The magnetic flux which was spread out to the outer ball bearing will also get closer to the middle ball bearing, so less magnetic lines will cross the outer ball bearing, and the pull of the outer ball bearing gets weaker.

And it’s my guess that ferrofluids (small little pieces of metal suspended in a fluid) would work the same way.  I would think that they’d extend the strength of magnetic field out farther. No, they wont. The flux will use the better magnetic conductivity in the fluid to guide the magnetic flux directly to the oposite pole, and therfor less magnetic flux is left in thin air.

Thank you for the issue.  I need to investigate and not just speculate.  I’ll look around the web and see if I can find anything.

(And please let me know if I misunderstood what you were suggesting in the quote above.)

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 07:33:10 PM »
Vidar:  “No. The magnetic flux which was spread out to the outer ball bearing will also get closer to the middle ball bearing, so less magnetic lines will cross the outer ball bearing, and the pull of the outer ball bearing gets weaker.”

I did some experiments yesterday.

I placed a metal ball bearing on a ramp, and positioned a magnet just beyond where the strength of the magnetic pull would pull the ball bearing up the ramp (up against the force of gravity).

Then I put another ball bearing between the magnet and the first ball bearing.

Results: The first ball bearing moved up the ramp.

(I found that I needed to put the second ball bearing not at the midpoint between the magnet and the first ball bearing, but about three quarters of the way between them on the side of the first ball bearing.)

So, the middle ball bearing (which has no magnetic field of its own, but only that given to it from the magnet) did channel the strength of the magnetic field out farther (and thus pulled the otherwise motionless first ball bearing up the ramp).

Vidar:  “The ferrofluid will guide the flux loop closer to the magnet, and shield the magnet from attracting magnetic objects. The more fluid, the better is the magnetic shielding.”

I then did a second experiment.

I put the metal ball bearing on the ramp, and moved the magnet to different positions to find the point where it was just still close enough to pull the ball bearing up the ramp, and then to find the point where it was just far enough to not pull the ball bearing up the ramp.  (I marked these two positions.)

I then placed a piece of plastic over the side of the magnet closest to the ball bearing (in order to keep the ferrofluid on this side of the magnet (as in the pmm design I’m proposing) and not to let it just spread out all over the magnetic everywhere), and then added ferrofluid.

I then placed this (magnet with ferrofluid) at the point where the magnet alone (no ferrofluid) was just able to pull the ball bearing up the ramp, and then I placed this (magnet with ferrofluid) at the point where the magnet alone (no ferrofluid) was just beyond being able to pull the ball bearing up the ramp.

Results:  The ball bearing acted exactly the same.  There were no detectable differences. 

The ball bearing rolled up the ramp with the magnet and ferrofluid placed in the same place as it did when it was just the magnet alone.  And the ball bearing did not roll up the ramp when the magnet and ferrofluid were placed in the same place as it did not when it was just the magnet alone.

Vidar:  “No, they wont. The flux will use the better magnetic conductivity in the fluid to guide the magnetic flux directly to the oposite pole, and therfor less magnetic flux is left in thin air.”

Yes.  In the pmm design I'm proposing, the lines of flux will be channeled through the area of the capillaries where there is ferrofluid as opposed to just moving through thin air.  And so, at the end of the capillaries, where there is a gap, the fluid spikes out beyond the capillaries, in line with these lines of flux, and then breaks off from these capillaries and drips, also in line with these lines of flux.


Thank you for continuing to consider this idea, and continuing to poke at it.  I hope I addressed your concerns.  If not, please let me know, and I’ll readdress them.


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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 07:40:33 PM »

(Oops.  When I modified a couple of words in my last post, I also reattached my drawing not realizing this would add it for a second time.  I don’t know how to use this software to remove the second one.  Apologizes for the redundancy.)


 

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