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Post by: pree5 on September 03, 2011, 11:28:41 AM
Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be converted from one form to another and impossible for a machine to be 100 =HOW TO WORK A FREE ENERGY?

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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 03, 2011, 11:39:21 AM
what is the greatest strengths.
Post by: Doug1 on September 03, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
You answered your own question so I have to wonder if you asked the wrong question or ment something ells.
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on September 03, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be converted from one form to another

So, where the energy/matter (it's the same...) is absorbed by a black hole and never reappearing...
Even conventional scientist can't give you a precise responce about this --> total mystery...

and impossible for a machine to be 100 efficient

Yes, even FE machine aren't 100% efficient, but if you have COP > 1, I don't care about losses (small losses of course)...

And about losses they are not "losses" but energy converted into waste heat... Heat is EM radiation in the Tera hertz region, solar panel with nano antenna can convert back into useful electcity... (the main problem about this is to find a very rapid diode to convert AC Tera Hertz into usable DC...


The infrared solar panel described above is a kind of FE machine, you can recycle energy for eternity...

Convert gravity, time, reactive power into energy, so here I don't know the exact process...

If you want a clue: Playing with magnetic field, motor, transformer, PM, reactive power, harmonics, resonance, searching reactionless phenomena (avoiding Lenz Law or using it in your favor) will be a good start...
Post by: pree5 on September 03, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
 thanks;)SchubertReijiMaigo ;)

i need more answers from other's let see.... ::)
Post by: Tommy on September 03, 2011, 09:40:56 PM
Offcourse energy can be created- the universe is created from nothing.
That should prove that energy can be created.
If the universe was made from something alse,
that something alse had to come from some plase right ? in the end it would have to come from nothing!

To say that its impossible to create energy- is the same as saying that nothing exist.
And that can be true if you view the illusion from outside the illusion.

The only thing that is real, is the experience, all the rest is an illusion.

So my guess is that the answer is yes and no, it depend on witch- view point you choose to answer the question from.

We even made an illusion within the illusion, that energy can not be created  :)


Post by: fritznien on September 03, 2011, 10:07:02 PM
at time T=0 seconds all the matter and energy in the universe was already in existence.
the only thing created was for that no one knows.
thankyou for playing please try again.
Post by: WilbyInebriated on September 03, 2011, 10:31:07 PM
at time T=0 seconds all the matter and energy in the universe was already in existence.
you have no proof of this...  ::)
the only thing created was for that no one knows.
you have no proof of this either...   ::)
thankyou for playing please try again.
thank you for pretending your opinions are factual... ::) please try again.
Post by: Trino Cularoid on September 04, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
[...] the universe is created from nothing.

Well, if I understand it correctly, there are some theories (involving branes, etc.) that when two universes bump into each other, they can be pushed into other dimensions. So, for example, our universe could have appeared pretty quickly (like in a big bang) in our 3 dimensions when it collided with another one somewhere else. (Check out the TV series "Through the Wormhole," seasons 1 & 2.)
Post by: forest on September 04, 2011, 03:58:10 PM
cosmic rays  ;D
Post by: powercat on September 04, 2011, 09:30:58 PM
willpower  ;D
Post by: pree5 on September 05, 2011, 05:29:41 AM
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Post by: chessnyt on September 05, 2011, 05:15:20 PM
Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be converted from one form to another and impossible for a machine to be 100 =HOW TO WORK A FREE ENERGY?

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I know I’m going to get lots of heat (not free energy but free disagreements) from this but oh well.

It may help to understand free energy a bit more by looking at natural occurring models such as our solar system.  The earth is in a sense a perpetual motion device.  It spins at the same RPMs century after century without slowing down yet nobody has put more fuel (wound it up or spun it to keep it going) in its gas tank. 

The sun is a source of free energy because you don’t pay for it (at least I don’t have a solar bill) but it is only available for a limited time each day.

Now there is zero point energy (ZPE) which unlike our access to solar energy, is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week all year long.  ZPE is energy that would even still exist if you cooled the surrounding temperature down to 0 degrees.  It is limitless in supply (Tesla said we are surrounded by a sea of this energy) but the most difficult aspect of it is tapping into it. 

I hope this makes enough sense for you to get a basic overview of “free energy”.

Post by: forest on September 05, 2011, 09:48:54 PM
Good.Keep in mind that Earth is spinning even at night  :P
Post by: Justsomeguy on September 14, 2011, 06:35:17 AM
The more you learn, the more you realize how little you know.
 We are made of atoms too tiny to really examine. A scanning tunneling electron microscope shows little. If the nucleus of a hydrogen atom was the size of a period  .   then the electron would be at least 50 meters away. So we are mostly not even here.
So how can atoms get together and form a thinking living being?
Nobody has the answers to all of the ingored questions. What exactly is gravity. a force. a property of mass? a force of what? Just like magnetic lines of force. oh. what is a line of force and how can it act on a body at a distance? How can I cause my finger to move and type these words?
Usually, the thicker the book, the less is actually known about the subject. Because if you understand it, you can simplify.
You exist. Therefore anything is possible.
Post by: Justsomeguy on September 14, 2011, 06:36:27 AM
Of course the other answer to the big question has to be ...... 42
Post by: forest on September 14, 2011, 03:17:13 PM
Sun is shining even at night. Now ,think how many suns is in Universe ? Free energy is a device which taps energy from many suns = cosmic rays. This is (in simplified version) what makes noise in electronic apparatus.
Post by: pree5 on November 06, 2012, 12:34:20 PM
Post by: Neo-X on November 06, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
Energy can be neither created
nor destroyed, but it can be
converted from one form to
another and impossible for a
machine to be 100 =HOW TO WORK A FREE

--End of Qoute--

I can explain this.. Unknown energy in space supply additional energy in the ou device like tesla coil when disturbed by its oscillation of current. This unknown energy helps to convert thermal energy in to electricity thats why some ou device become cold when more power was extracted because it absorb the thermal energy around the device. So the extra energy that came out from an ou device is not the unknown energy, its the thermal energy that has been converted to electricity by the help of this unknown energy in space. So no violation in the law of thermo dynamics.
Post by: Qwert on November 06, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
A possible source of energy: download from these links: ( (

About 20 MB total
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on November 07, 2012, 06:17:46 PM
1) ZPE radiation even at absolute zero those radiation persist... Problem those radiation are far above gamma and cosmic rays in the EM spectrum... So their wavelength is extremely small.

2) Parametric capacitor or inductor (Eric Dollard theory). Changing capacity or inductance in respect to time...
The Chris Carson rotary electrostatic generator is an application of this...
It look like a butterfly capacitor that can spin at 360° at incredible RPM (10000 RPM).
One is high when the other is low so they are 180° out of phase.
Charge are conserved and the total energy also, energy is shuttled between the two set of capacitor and it doesn't load the motor.

3) From a Chinese paper: (Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu)
Quarter wave effect between an emitter and a receiver or through a wire (or an electrical circuit).
The distance between the two transmitter or the length of the wire are the quarter wavelength of the applied frequency.
It result into a phase inverting due to the phase retardation between the source and the load.
The result is (according to those paper) that your source will "see" the load as negative !!! (The load recharge the source while dissipating energy !!! )
It can be done with Tesla transmitter also according to their claims (and maybe it was the purpose of the Wardenclyffe tower: transmit power at quarter wavelength so that the tower will see negative resistance and will doesn't get loaded.)
The attachment are those Chinese paper.

It will be interesting ways to study.

Post by: forest on November 07, 2012, 08:22:15 PM
Agree. Please consider 1/4 wavelength with connection to LC circuit. What is going on on 1/4 wavelength in time ?
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on November 08, 2012, 09:59:28 AM
My understanding about this is: (For an electrical circuit).
1) The voltage is applied to the wires, he travel at the speed of light.
2) When the signal reach out the end of the line, the voltage induce current in the load while the source voltage decline to zero.
3) The current wave return back to the source (the BEMF ?), the wave now will "induce" current in the source.
Now this current recharge the source because she reversed her polarity since she start her second half period of the AC signal.
4) The reversed voltage now travel back to the load while in the same time the current wave travel back and "excite" the source (who is recharging due it's polarity reversed).
5) And the cycle goes on now for the next one of your AC signal.

So, the current/voltage are in phase through the load, but 180° out of phase in the source (who now becoming a load itself. )
In fact it look like we play with the time dimension here and relativist effect, the BEMF is "aiding" the source instead of "fighting" it.

The Quarter wave allow to separate the cause and effect in respect to time or rather the cause can become the effect and vice-versa !

I hope this possible explanation was clear and easy to understand.
Post by: pree5 on November 10, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on November 11, 2012, 09:55:02 AM
According to our current scientific knowledge it was the Big Bang, before that Time doesn't exist...
Post by: ramset on November 11, 2012, 02:02:24 PM
Perhaps your Bell pic is just one flower on a much bigger tree............
its all "fractals" these days.
Post by: facilitatorNOW on December 26, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
Energy can be neither created nor destroyed, but it can be converted from one form to another and impossible for a machine to be 100 =HOW TO WORK A FREE ENERGY?

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The earth has all types of resources that contain energy and the energy naturally changes forms as the earth recycles itself perpetually. I'm not a scientist so can everyone zoom out for one damn minute to look at the big picture? I understand that inventors get tunnel vision because their committed to their goals.  Good you have passion! Start learning how to collaborate with people.  Now its time to put aside the ego and just team up with another breaking edge innovator that complements your tech and has the same ethics/intentions.  It's not about the one golden answer! Its about different combinations of great answers put together. The world's resources of energy are everywhere so there should be a variety of ways and series of systems that harness it.

Things I want to see specifically. Bear with me because if I misspell  the name of a project.

My complaints: (and I watch tons of videos for countless hours on different energy projects).

#1 - Startup Power. Your out there in the garage all the time putting all types of stuff together. Get rid of the extension cord from the power outlet ok? There are already multiple retail systems for casually cranking 50 watts with your arm or hook it to a bike. T
hey are around $450 (one i saw). Figure out how to make your own and save the money but if you have plenty of capital try my idea below.

In the demo videos I saw a kid cranking 50 watts with ease. I think these hand/leg crank generators are like a foundation; ESPECIALLY in a lot of the HHO projects.  Just a first step, but a good FOUNDATION for almost all innovators that need some input electricity for HHO, dry cell, ppm machine, or electric engine. Also when you actually don't have power,  crank power seems to be the most practical for your first batch and its always a building block in a series (unless your input isn't electricity) The sucky part so far is that these cranks arn't efficient because the people can't gear THEMSELVES efficiently it needs a lower gear so people can push harder.

You could attach the handle of a 50 watt crank generator on a wheel; at the opposite end of the wheel, attach a crank to another generator. This way your arms are counterbalanced cranking 100 watts; same motion as the ones at the gym. At the same time your feet are peddling.  On the ground put  2 generators in sequence and attach it to the left foot pedal. Of course align 2 more generators on the right in series and attach it to the right foot pedal. There should be different gears with different approximate output thresholds. With that configuration your running 300 watts (what if you could pull 60 watts X 6 = 360 watts, and getting a fluid, full body workout. Then you could duplicate that with another person and it put it in series so the system can adapt to 1 or more people. When the economy collapses there will be millions of civilian men standing around doing NOTHING it will feel good to crank some energy to heat some water up or cook some eggs.

1.) NOW! Take that 600 watt human crank power (2 people) and charge some standard or liquid valanium or LPV or whatever type of innovative or standard batteries.. Have some deep charge batteries and some short term batteries in series this probably helps a lot.
2.) Start cranking/peddling 600 watts (2 people, 6 cranks each or more) and unloading the batteries at the same time and bridge the power to your HHO Generator.  or your perpetual motion machine, or your dry cell. Or a million other awesome things.  This should jump start whatever your core process is, or just run a nice electric engine since its already electricity you have.

How much power do those commercial HHO welders require?

Can't people use an HHO welder with something else?

Then COLLABORATE with some battery people for storage. Use liquid Valanium (like Apella Resources) (sorry if i misspelled)  or one of these cool new battery technologies.

Imagine an HHO welder running off of a battery bank you cranked with your own body (we are high tech batteries) and barely burnt any calories. Then you integrate the blazing hot welder into A WATER TURBINE ENGINE: igniting a chamber with a timed MIST of water and a little HHO gas and the water steam would expand 3300%(?) running a steam turbine engine the world has never seen. This would create off the chart horsepower and would have better efficiency than large multi chamber PISTON engines. Cars would all be turbines but it was a Ford Banking decision and we know why they opted for low efficiency, high maintenance piston engines. Money of course. Water turbine! Water Turbine! Use an HHO welder to ignite HHO GAS mixed with a water mist. BOOOM! You better make sure compression is well planned because its going to be a lot of power. Obviously your water misters will have to be cleaned so that hard water doesn't clog them. 


Take the crank electricity and DUH just run a magnet motor or amplifier and/or run an electric motor. Isn't the fastest car in the world an electric car? They are small engines and so powerful. OR Hook it/ or the turbine engine up as a plane engine. Crank power in your plane, generate HHO if you have water, Maybe plug in a atmospheric generator to run the instruments and cabin electronics. Combine 3 or 4 things and create some backup loops in case one system needs maintenance or refill.

Combine projects and you will start to naturally create standard measurements and can scale up or down. Then you will form friendships and common goals and your work will be compatible and efficiently complementing when you want it to be.  Open Source it to ambassadors all over the world and collect donations online. Keep it pure and you'll still be compensated. Build tons of systems with lots of volunteers teaming up and drop prototypes all over the world to wealthy ambassadors and distribute open source plans to people all over the world AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. That is THE KEY. At the same time so the wave can't be stopped. It would take the perfect balance of minds. Would take trust at the perfect times and would take Distrust at the perfect times. Once the first generation stuff spreads like wildfire through the world people could purchase plans, directions manuals, do it yourself kits, and you'd have affiliate accounts for suppliers etc.. for upgrades and stuff like that but the technology would still be free for people that want to just download the directions,get their own materials, and generate their own power for as CHEAP as they can.

How about a glider with foot crank + batteries running an HHO generator. Run an AWG off the AIR INTAKE pressure.  and now you have a pepertual water source with the weight of a small AWG without the weight of a limited water storage tank.

Hydrogen electric human hybrid car with driver startup crank and/or passenger crank + HHO electric generator into electric engine + loop incoming water from an AWG which is built into the air intake to replenish water tank without storage weight.

SO WHAT DO YOU SAY??! The hand is almost to the 12. New agendas go into effect and everything goes poof.  time is PRECIOUS and of the ESSENCE. Put down your ego and put your tunnel vision on time out long enough to put your brains and volts together in a circuit. With electricity we can run AWGs and have water. Then loop some water back into the dry cell.