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Author Topic: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect  (Read 884590 times)

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #750 on: March 20, 2013, 01:45:31 PM »
Among a ton of words Mr. Thane C. Heins writes:

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THE 24 COILS ON THE INFINITE RANGE eBIKE PROJECT WILL DELIVER A MINIMUM OF 384 WATTS OR 16 WATTS/COIL.   THE BIKE MOTOR WILL CONSUME A MAXIMUM OF 360 WATTS.   
 
ONCE COMPLETE THE INFINITE RANGE eBIKE WILL RUN "FOREVER" AS PLANNED JUST AS WE DID AT OU (OTTAWA U WITH THE BYONX eBIKE).   
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I am not a native English speaker but as far as I understand, the alleged OU may be WILL HAPPEN, i.e. may be the case in the future.

Someone will have proven OU once it HAS HAPPENED.

So, lets wait and watch.

The only OU devices I have ever heard of WILL be OU after some improvements. And REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION seems to be in a similar category of OU devices.

It is good to experiment with this effect, but it is pretty unproductive to call it OU without factual proof. Proof by definition (as Mr. Heins attempts) is not very helpful. Words rarely deliver energy, words just deliver a small amount of warm air (in case they are spoken and not written down).

So, let's experiment. Bragging, claiming of rights, name giving and saving of the world should be delayed till proof materialises.

Greetings, Conrad

Well, lets not start a Thane-war, but he has done a lot more than brag, Conrad. I really don't think you're in any position to talk him down.


atb,

DC.

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #751 on: March 20, 2013, 01:46:48 PM »

I get tired of repeating myself. You need to run the rotor up first past threshold speed, then position the magnet core coil. You've made it much more difficult for me to keep explaining this to you then it would be to try it. I'm tired of your insults. This is my final response to you.

Insults ?

Where was my insult ?

I'm sorry if i don't remember one of the points you made but posting here isn't the only thing i do in my life.

Here's an insult,

Go jump in a lake :)

DC.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 04:22:39 PM by DeepCut »

gyulasun

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #752 on: March 20, 2013, 01:51:45 PM »
Hej Garry, please cool down and relax. MAybe correct your above post till you can edit it.

Thanks,  Gyula

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #753 on: March 20, 2013, 01:56:11 PM »
Thank you Gyula.

I am beginning to understand why MileHigh is the way he is.


All the best,

DC.

« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 04:23:03 PM by DeepCut »

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #754 on: March 20, 2013, 02:08:09 PM »
Very well said Thane.

Does this mean that i am going to rule the world ?

All the best,

DC.

YES ABSOLUTELY,
 
WELL IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO "GO F THEMSELVES" ANYWAY - BUT FORGET ABOUT THE OIL COMPANIES TRYING TO KILL YOU... JUST THINK ABOUT ALL THOSE ANGRY OUT OF WORK PROSTITUTES!  :-[
 
CHEERS
T
 
PS TO REPEAT (FOR THE "HARD OF LEARNING"  :o ):
 
OVERUNITY IS NOT THE SAME AS PERPETUAL MOTION
 
ANYONE WHO CAN CAUSE AN ELECTRIC GENERATOR TO ACCELERATE ITSELF WHILE DELIVERING POWER TO A LOAD WITHOUT REQUIRING AN INCREASE IN PRIME MOVER INPUT AND WHO ISN'T SOMEHOW REDUCING LOSSES HAS CREATED AN OVERUNITY DEVICE!  ;)
 
BE PROUD!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

synchro1

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #755 on: March 20, 2013, 03:49:44 PM »
@Heinstien,
 
              Have you ever achieved "Regenerative Acceleration" with a diametric tube magnet core Tesla bifilar solenoid output coil?
 
 
              This thread needs a moderator. Vulgarity is forbidden on this forum. I will volunteer to help enforce standards of common decency.

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #756 on: March 20, 2013, 04:24:30 PM »
@Heinstien,
 
              Have you ever achieved "Regenerative Acceleration" with a diametric tube magnet core Tesla bifilar solenoid output coil?
 
 
              This thread needs a moderator. Vulgarity is forbidden on this forum. I will volunteer to help enforce standards of common decency.

I take back and apologise for the insult, but you really should be less touchy.

I had simply forgotten one of the things you told me about your setup, i have had to tell people things more than once before and i don't get touchy about it.

Let's continue in peace.


All the best,

DC.

synchro1

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #757 on: March 20, 2013, 05:15:36 PM »
Quote from Thane Heins:
 
"SINCE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CORE MATERIAL ON THE PLANET THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE SOME SORT OF HYSTERESIS EFFECT (MAGNETIC DRAG), AND REMNANT FLUX IN THE CORE REQUIRING ADDITIONAL DRIVE SHAFT COERCIVE FORCE TO EXTRACT IT. (THE COMPANY THAT CREATES ONE WILL RULE THE WORLD BTW)

THE ReGenX GENERATOR OPERATES ON THE VERY SAME PRINCIPLE AS DO ALL GENERATORS I.E. COILS WITH CORES - SO IN THAT SENSE IT IS EXACTLY IDENTICAL TO ANY OTHER GENERATOR ON THE PLANET (THAT HAS CORES).

HYSTERESIS, REMNANT FLUX, AND DRIVE SHAFT COERCIVE FORCE REQUIREMENTS WILL ALL BE DEALT WITH IN THE DESIGN AND MANUFACTURING PROCESS IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

So putting a Regen-X system on any motor will just need additional input power, cause your coil rods are dragging the motor down.

WE DON'T USE "RODS" WE USE M3 AND ABOVE FERROMAGNETIC LAMINATIONS TO MINIMIZE CORE HYSTERESIS AS DO ALL GOOD GENERATORS AND MOTORS ON PLANET EARTH".
 
REPLY:
 
The diametric magnet core has both a positive and a negative pole of equal strength facing the NS magnet rotor. Unlike any ferrite core, the diametric core cancels out any hystersis from magnetic drag once the rotor's moving!

Quote from Thane Heins:

"SINCE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE CORE MATERIAL ON THE PLANET THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE SOME SORT OF HYSTERESIS EFFECT".
 
REPLY:
 
The dametric magnet core neutralizes the "Drag Hysteresis" effect completely.
 
The magnet core output coils could be charged to suppress the PM core fields to facilitate starting!

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #758 on: March 20, 2013, 05:17:31 PM »
I will attempt to confirm what synchro is saying when the parts arrive.


All the best,

DC.


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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #759 on: March 20, 2013, 05:23:27 PM »
Hi DeepCut,

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I've never used processing, but that's what my arduino's language is based on i think ?

It's pretty much the same, just added graphical abilities and more system functions.

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How are things with you, what are you dreaming/thinking/building ?

Busy but still building, I have an image of recent builds but don't want to clutter this thread.

Looking forward to your build.


Hi Alvaro_CS,

Is there a difference between pancake wound coils and rectangular pound cake style coils?

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #760 on: March 20, 2013, 06:18:48 PM »
Hi DreamThinkBuild
I think there should be no difference as for the current path is reffered, but I have a lot of steel laminations from an old trafo  I can use as core before trying the diam. magnet, so I can experiment with relationships between area facing rotor, coil area and  also volumes (masses related to flux densities & rpm, etc.)
In an intuitive way, I think that this physical aspects are related to harmony laws. The golden mean is just a tool (guide) to order things when I build.
Many times one has a wide range of aleatory choices and I always give preference to this proportions.
may be I´m nuts
cheers

DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #761 on: March 20, 2013, 06:33:29 PM »
Hi DreamThinkBuild
I think there should be no difference as for the current path is reffered, but I have a lot of steel laminations from an old trafo  I can use as core before trying the diam. magnet, so I can experiment with relationships between area facing rotor, coil area and  also volumes (masses related to flux densities & rpm, etc.)
In an intuitive way, I think that this physical aspects are related to harmony laws. The golden mean is just a tool (guide) to order things when I build.
Many times one has a wide range of aleatory choices and I always give preference to this proportions.
may be I´m nuts
cheers

Random choices can lead to amazing outcomes :)

If the golden mean is good enough for artists and architects then it's good enough for us.


atb,

DC.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #762 on: March 20, 2013, 08:52:53 PM »
Hi Thane,
in your PDF file you wrote:


The DC power supply input to the BIONYX motor was
set at 20 Volts and 3.91 Amps or 78.2 Watts.
 
Bike Input Power = 78.2 Watts
ReGenX Output Power = 84 Watts**
 
** The bike motor input was 78.2 Watts and the
ReGenX power delivered to the purely resistive light
bulb loads was 84 Watts. This output power number
was actually higher than that because I had to use a
step down transformer for the generator coils which
consumed about 15% of the generator output power -
so the actual output was about 100 Watts or so. 

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So why didn´t you just film this and have it as a proof for us all to see ?

Didn´t you have a camera with you or couldn´t you just use your cell phone to
record this most important OU event ?


Hope you can soon show it again.


Regards, Stefan.


synchro1

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #763 on: March 20, 2013, 10:54:58 PM »
Thane's latest "Infinite Range Ebike" project video:
 
 
http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/indexen.htm#eBIKE

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #764 on: March 21, 2013, 04:49:29 AM »

 
THE 24 COILS ON THE INFINITE RANGE eBIKE PROJECT WILL DELIVER A MINIMUM OF 384 WATTS OR 16 WATTS/COIL.   THE BIKE MOTOR WILL CONSUME A MAXIMUM OF 360 WATTS.   
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ONCE COMPLETE THE INFINITE RANGE eBIKE WILL RUN "FOREVER" AS PLANNED JUST AS WE DID AT OU (OTTAWA U WITH THE BYONX eBIKE).   




I don't understnd the logic in the above statement.   Input power to the motor is 360 watts.  Total output is 384 watts @ 16 watts/coil.   Which means from the out put of 384 Watts if you feed 360 watts back to the motor, you will be left with just 24 watts of useful power output to run your bike.   Will your bike run with just 24 Watts?
Is it a toy bike?

As for I know a 100CC bike produces a power output of 7 to 8 BHP which is around 5 to 6 Kilo Watts to pull two persons sitting on it.


With 24 watts output you can make a toy bike to pull a rat sitting on it.   Am I right?