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CRANKYpants

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2011, 01:54:30 PM »
Dear Thane,
Maybe what you can do when you have finished the Kinetic Bike, is to let any of the critics spin around on it and let them accelerate until they are crapping their pants. :)
With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

For Information about the Confirmation of the Negative Lenz Effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

DEAR OVERUNITYGUIDE,

FIRST OF ALL THERE IS A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CRITIC AND A CYNIC

cyn·i·cal Adjective/ˈsinikəl/
1. Believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
2. Doubtful as to whether something will happen or is worthwhile.

CRITICISM IS POSITIVE AND CAN BE CONSTRUCTIVE CYNICISM IS NOT.

HERE IS ANOTHER CONFIRMATION FROM SWEDEN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXadyVSxj4

QUESTION:
IN YOUR SETUP DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO PUT YOUR SHORTED COIL ON A SWIVEL AND HAVE IT FACING AWAY FROM THE ROTOR AND THEN MOVE IT INTO POSITION ONCE THE ROTOR IS UP TO SPEED?

GOTOLUC AND I DID THIS AT OU (OTTAWA UNIVERSITY) BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY VIDEO ETC.

IF YOU WERE TO DO THIS I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU REPLACE YOUR ?ALUMINUM? BOLT MOUNT WHICH CREATES LOTS OF EDDY CURRENTS WITH STEEL WHICH WILL ATTRACT MORE ROTOR FLUX THROUGH YOUR CORE AND INCREASE YOUR COIL'S INDUCED VOLTAGE AND INCREASE THE EFFECTS. IF THAT COIL MOUNT IS INDEED ALUMINUM - IT OUGHT TO BE REPLACED ASAP.

CHEERS
T



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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2011, 02:43:05 PM »
DEAR OVERUNITYGUIDE,

HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN TRY IF YOU LIKE...?

1) MAKE A CONVENTIONAL COIL AND PLACE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROTOR TO
2)SHOW "CONVENTIONAL ON LOAD GENERATOR REACTION" AND
3) THEN FEED THE OUTPUT OF YOUR REGEN COIL INTO THE CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR COIL WHICH WOULD BE ACTING NOW AS A MOTOR COIL TO CREATE MORE ACCELERATION.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins?feature=mhee#p/u/23/wOveW0Y4Mok

nilrehob's COMMENT IN HIS VIDEO, "THIS IS FUN" REALLY STARTS TO APPLY WHEN YOU SEE THAT YOU CAN SUPPLY POWER TO A LOAD AND BOOTSTRAP THE SYSTEM TO DRIVE ITSELF...  :o

CHEERS
T

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2011, 02:55:16 PM »
Oh that's right, C can't be attributed to your data because WITHOUT CORES ITS NOT A GENERATOR IT IS JUST A ROUND THING ROTATING IN THIN AIR...

AND BECAUSE ALL GENERATORS IN THIS CONTEXT HAVE:

1) WIRE AND WIRE RESISTANCE
2) BEARINGS AND BEARING RESISTANCE
3) CORES AND CORE RESISTANCE

BUT IF YOU ARE SINCERE AND YOU COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES I.E TWO IDENTICAL GENERATORS ON NO LOAD WITH:

4) THE SAME DRIVE SHAFT AT THE SAME RPM WITH THE SAME DRIVE SHAFT TORQUE SUPPLIED BY THE SAME PRIME MOVER BE IT AN ELECTRIC MOTOR, GAS OR DIESEL ENGINE, WIND, STEAM, WATER, DONKEY, GERBILS OR WHATEVER AS PDI HAS DONE. (SEE OTTAWA UNIVERSITY VIDEO BELOW)

5) THE CONVENTIONAL (REGENERATIVE BRAKING) GENERATOR WILL DECELERATE THE SYSTEM WHEN PLACED ON LOAD. AND THE GREATER THE LOAD THE FASTER THE RATE OF DECELERATION.

6) THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR WILL ACCELERATE THE SYSTEM WHEN PLACED ON LOAD AND THE GREATER THE LOAD THE FASTER THE RATE OF ACCELERATION.

7) THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR COIL WILL EVEN ACCELERATE WHEN THE LOAD IS ALMOST 7 TIMES GREATER THAN THE CONVENTIONAL LOAD AND

8) THE REGENERATIVE ACCELERATION GENERATOR WILL ALSO ACCELERATE THROUGH THE DECELERATION CAUSED BY THE CONVENTIONAL COIL AS SHOWN HERE WITH A PERFORMANCE ADVANTAGE THAT EXCEEDS 500%: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3JVjbXOssQ

CHEERS
T

Thane C. Heins
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When you demonstrate your generator running itself with no external power supply and motor driver, I'll be happy to applaud your ingenuity. In the meantime your comic relief, aka, yadda yadda, is worthy of a clap or two.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2011, 03:02:27 PM »
DEAR OVERUNITYGUIDE,

FIRST OF ALL THERE IS A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CRITIC AND A CYNIC

cyn·i·cal Adjective/ˈsinikəl/
1. Believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
2. Doubtful as to whether something will happen or is worthwhile.

CRITICISM IS POSITIVE AND CAN BE CONSTRUCTIVE CYNICISM IS NOT.

CHEERS
T

Dear Thane,

Actually the word which I was looking for was sceptics instead of critics...
But as you mentioned, cynics is maybe even beter...

But to answer your question, yes I am using a simple steel bolt as a core for now and indeed, the Generator Coil Casing is made out of aluminum...

I agree that this can be done much better, but my problem is that I don't have a machine shop myself, so unfortunately I have to stick with home improvement mechanics for now. And about the Swiveling mechanism, I have tried to run the motor without the generator coil, and it will give me a slightly lower input wattage. But this can be expected due to the eddy currents, and al other disadvantages of my simple setup...

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2011, 03:56:07 PM »
But to answer your question, yes I am using a simple steel bolt as a core for now and indeed, the Generator Coil Casing is made out of aluminum... Overunityguide

SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN THE ROTOR - WHICH CAN BE ANYTHING INCLUDING LEXAN BUT NOT PLEXIGLASS AS GOTOLUC FOUND OUT WHEN HE BLEW UP HIS BROTHERS GARAGE!  :P

I MEANT THAT CORE/BOLT MOUNT WHICH IS SECURED TO THE WOOD - IS THAT ALUMINUM?

IF SO IT IS CREATING LENZ DRAG ON NO LOAD JUST BY SITTING THERE.
IF IT WERE "SOFT" STEEEL IT WOULD ATTRACT ROTOR FLUX AND PERFORM SLIGHTLY BETTER. THAT IS ALL I MEANT.   

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T

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2011, 03:59:02 PM »
When you demonstrate your generator running itself with no external power supply and motor driver, I'll be happy to applaud your ingenuity. In the meantime your comic relief, aka, yadda yadda, is worthy of a clap or two.

NO STORY IS EVER COMPLETE WITHOUT THE ANTAGONIST(S)...

CHEERS
T

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2011, 04:43:42 PM »
Am I the only one who feels that Thane's rant's distract and destroy what were once quality threads? It is sad really...

 :'(

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #112 on: September 16, 2011, 05:08:02 PM »
Am I the only one who feels that Thane's rant's distract and destroy what were once quality threads? It is sad really...

 :'(

Well it is a good thing for Thane to show his true colors, people are then better prepared to form their own opinion.

But notice not one shred of, "this is how I achieved a self runner, for you to do the same this is the criteria that must be met, steps 1 to n, etc etc"

Garry Stanley already did the bike thing... romero and mylow already had self runners...

Ron

« Last Edit: September 16, 2011, 06:01:26 PM by i_ron »

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #113 on: September 16, 2011, 07:19:29 PM »
@i-ron .Garry Stanley already did the bike thing ? Any chance of more info or a link please ?

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #114 on: September 17, 2011, 11:51:52 AM »
SSSSOooooo Thane

Needa Hug ??

These guys are gonna eat their words {unsalted}[no sweetner either].

  Gotta Job for me? I can Dress Lucs wounds {coil winding]?
Or Ice Packs For Hematomas [when the Magnets fly loose [Ouch]]!

Push A mean broom??

Of course Hugs........

And if someone needs a little "Choke"?? [small ones?]

I'll send you my RES!

Chet


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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #115 on: September 17, 2011, 02:26:08 PM »
Gotta Job for me? I'll send you my RES!
Chet

YES RAMSET PLEASE DO SEND ME YOUR RESUME,
(as well as anyone else who is interested)

WE ARE COMMERCIALIZING BOTH THE RM AND BiTT AND HAVE:

1) A CANADIAN MOTOR/GENERATOR/TRANSFORMER MANUFATURER ON BOARD WHO IS DESIGNING 1 - 20 KW BiTTs FOR A CLIENT IN EUROPE - THESE BiTTs WILL OPERATE AT A PRACTICAL 30 - 50% POWER CONSUMPTION REDUCTION OVER CONVENTIONAL TRANSFORMERS AND WE HOPE WILL NOT REQUIRE OIL BATHS FOR COOLING. (ON THE SIDE WE ARE DEVELOPING THE SAME BiTTS WHICH DELIVER 1 - 20 KW BUT ONLY CONSUME PURE REACTIVE POWER ie NO REAL POWER WHICH WILL BE INTRODUCED TO THE SAME CLIENT LATER ON)
2) A CLIENT IN INDIA WHO WANTS RMs FOR SCOOTERS THERE AND
3) A RUSSIAN CAR COMPANY THAT ALSO WANTS RMs
3) AN AMERICAN COMPANY WHO IS PLANNING TO BUILD HOME AND BUSINESS GENERATORS AND THEIR FIRST CLIENT (WHO WE INTRODUCED THEM TO) IS A COMPANY IN INDIA WHO NEEDS GENERATORS FOR THEIR WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEMS FOR THE POOR AND NEEDY IN RURAL INDIA AND AFRICA. THIS COMPANT'S MAIN WISH IS TO USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO PUT AMERICA BACK TO WORK.

WE HAVE PROMOTIONAL (SALES) POSITIONS AVAILABLE AND SOON ENGINEER CLIENT REP POSITIONS. WE WILL ALSO HAVE POSITIONS OPENING UP FOR OUR NEW LICENSING COMPANY WHICH GOES ON LINE SOON.

IF YOU HAVE ANY PROFESSIONAL CONNECTIONS IN INDUSTRY THAT YOU THINK COULD BENNEFIT FROM EITHER THE BiTT OR RM AS AND END USER OR DISTRIBUTOR THEN ALLOW US TO SEND YOU A PROMOTIONAL AGREEMENT WHICH WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH COMPENSATION  IN THE EVENT THAT A "FREE" LICENSE IS SIGNED AS A RESULT OF AN INTRODUCTION YOU MAKE.

THERE ARE AT LEAST 4 PEOPLE WHO HAVE INTRODUCED THEMSELVES VIA THIS FORUM WHO NOW HAVE SUCH AGREEMENTS AND AT LEAST 2 INVITATIONS PENDING.

AND OF COURSE WE ALSO HAVE OUR 3000 PROFESSIONAL CONNECTIONS ON LINKEDIN TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH. (SEE ATTACHED)

CHEERS
T

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #116 on: September 17, 2011, 07:58:55 PM »
@i-ron .Garry Stanley already did the bike thing ? Any chance of more info or a link please ?

I mentioned that as that was my introduction to FE, way back when.

He did admit that after he changed the wiring it no longer worked and he just sort of faded away. I know of no successful replications.

Ron

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #117 on: September 17, 2011, 08:17:16 PM »
I mentioned that as that was my introduction to FE, way back when.

He did admit that after he changed the wiring it no longer worked and he just sort of faded away. I know of no successful replications.

Ron

I made replication back then in the days of yahoo groups... I used floppy drive coils conected in "no lenz" way and hard drive magnets and bearings. The first time I powered the motor it started to accelerate like crazy and few seconds later magnets were flying all over the room. Later I made more robust motor but the rotor was much smaller and the bearings were from roller-blades. This one was total failure it barely turned so I went on to the newmans motor which become popular in that time...

Both motors can be seen here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104829786399890053278/GarryStanleyMotor02

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #118 on: September 18, 2011, 01:14:00 PM »
snip...
I used floppy drive coils ..
snip

Nice pancakes. Were they from a 5 1/4 inch floppy drive?
Look the same as early 1970's VCR coils.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #119 on: September 18, 2011, 10:25:54 PM »
Yes the big 5 1/4" floppy drive coils.