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Author Topic: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect  (Read 835426 times)

Offline synchro1

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #810 on: March 26, 2013, 05:59:36 PM »
Because the hall effect does not switch on the current from the power supply until it senses a pole shift from a turning magnet

Luc

Placing those cans on their side, and running the input leads back away from the pick up coils should eliminate any induction from the circuit, right?

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #811 on: March 26, 2013, 06:09:54 PM »
The guy with the copper ball, surely he is spinning the ball parallel to the field therefore no eddy currents ?

Yes, possibly that could of happened but he would have to line it up to get it right, no?

His second part with the 2L bottle was just air and water interacting as they normally do.

Ya, I don't know about that one.

I'm not sure what point he was trying to make in the next video ?

It looks to me to be close to a self runner when he turns the copper ball one direction compared to the other direction. Do you not see that?

I won't be spending money on another magnet to investigate synchros claims, i'm focusing on my attempt at a self-runner.

All the best to you on that and please keep us posted of any result to help others better understand what works or not.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Offline DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #812 on: March 26, 2013, 06:16:31 PM »
...

It looks to me to be close to a self runner when he turns the copper ball one direction compared to the other direction. Do you not see that?

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I see it decelerate, as you'd expect.


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Offline DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #813 on: March 26, 2013, 06:19:15 PM »
but yes it's interesting that it performs better in one direction, i'm sure there's a good explanation for that.



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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #814 on: March 26, 2013, 06:21:01 PM »
This is a favourite of mine :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97CYWlALEs


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Offline gotoluc

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #815 on: March 26, 2013, 06:25:56 PM »
I see it decelerate, as you'd expect.


atb,

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Well, from viewing the video in Canada ;) I see a big difference in deceleration time when he spins it CW vs ACW

Just thought that was interesting!... it's fine, we don't have to all agree

Luc

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #816 on: March 26, 2013, 06:35:06 PM »

Placing those cans on their side, and running the input leads back away from the pick up coils should eliminate any induction from the circuit, right?

Placing the inductors on their side would definitely change things.

Luc

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #817 on: March 26, 2013, 06:39:46 PM »
@ Luc

we do agree :)

it has negligible eddy currents in one direction and normal eddy currents in the other.

i'm googling away, trying to find an explanation.


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Offline synchro1

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #818 on: March 26, 2013, 06:43:35 PM »
Skycollection should try stacking the pancakes over his bearing spinner one at a time, and look for any change in input.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #819 on: March 26, 2013, 06:51:13 PM »
LOL !

I'm getting loads of PM's now because of my post on skycollection's vid.

Maybe we should do a document so that all the info for a simple, first AUL device is in one place.

Many minds may bring new ideas.


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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #820 on: March 26, 2013, 06:56:21 PM »
@ Luc

we do agree :)

it has negligible eddy currents in one direction and normal eddy currents in the other.

i'm googling away, trying to find an explanation.


atb,

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I'm wondering if it would do the opposite if he was in the opposite polar hemisphere?

Doesn't a drain water vortex change direction depending in which polar hemisphere you are in? ... if so, why would water be affected by a magnetic pole position? ... eddy's are also in water.

Interesting stuff

Luc

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #821 on: March 26, 2013, 06:57:11 PM »
This video of skycollection's reveals the construction secret he now maintains is proprietary: The coils face the same way and are wired in parallel:
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf0DTLVclZI

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #822 on: March 26, 2013, 07:00:18 PM »
@Luc

The water down the drain thing is a myth, the spin direction depends on initial conditions and even a minute difference in force affects the outcome.


atb,

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #823 on: March 26, 2013, 07:03:59 PM »
The last test of J.L.N:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE19en.htm

In fact, the distance into the coil and the magnet is important to have the delayed Lenz.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #824 on: March 26, 2013, 07:06:11 PM »
The copper ball and neo ball expermient showing negligible eddy currents in one direction should be done on a more stringent testbed.

Hand-spinning the magnet, we're not even sure which way it's rotating in reference to its own axis.

Intriguing though, maybe there's some unusual property of spherical copper ?

I'll try a similar experiment with my single-magnet diametric setup and a large, coppper coil.

Unfortunately i don't have a copper ball or even a large mass of copper.

I must message him to find out if the ball is solid or hollow.


atb,

DC.