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Author Topic: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect  (Read 782568 times)

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #480 on: October 31, 2011, 10:01:34 AM »
Quote from: gotoluc

Do you think it is realistic?... if so, I was able to tune it to return current ;D  You just have to wait 3 or 4 minutes till it reaches the 44 Watts range.

Link to Re-tuned Generator Circuit Simulation

Let me know what you think

Luc

Well it seems to be working in this video so I think it is worth trying.
Speed under load!

Like I said, you have to play with the parameters ;) I achieved even higher output at some point but we have to check it's performance in a real life setup.
Right now the inductance of the transformer is a bit unrealistic but this circuit is just a base to work on.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2011, 11:01:59 AM by kEhYo77 »

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #481 on: November 01, 2011, 07:12:06 AM »
Hi everyone,

I couldn't resist to test kEhYo77 circuit simulation in real time.

It's now 2am and I fly out of the Country this afternoon, so I may not have internet access for a few days unless I get some free wi-fi in one of the airports I'll be going through.

For the test I used another Toroid that I have that has Dual 120vac coils which are 300mH each and 2.3 Ohm DC Resistance

Also, I only noticed (after the electronic store was closed) the Transistor was an PNP and not your standard NPN. However, I manage to find an old one in my salvage stuff. It's model A671. Probably not the best but it works. I tested its hfe and it about 67 to 70

Below is a link to the Simulation with all the correct values of components that I used. I also used 60Hz grid at 12.25vac adjusted by my variac.

Link to Re-tuned Generator Circuit Simulation

The scope shot below is with a 1 Ohm shunt resistor on the green trace. The the probes are setup in the standard way that I have been doing to measure current and voltage (yellow) on the input side.

I used my digital meter on the output side to measure the voltage across the 10 Ohm load Resistor. It is at 4 Volts AC = 1.6 Watts. I also included a second scope shot by moving the yellow voltage probe across the 10 Ohm load so you can see its wave form.

I did include the scopes Math function in the first scope shot as you can see but I'm not qualified to do the power calculations. Please help as I don't know what to do with Vmean with Negative reading ???

It definitely looks interesting

Luc

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #482 on: November 01, 2011, 11:33:50 AM »
@Luc I'm glad you tried it. It is very interesting indeed.
The tuning should be more like this, I think:

Re-tuned Gotuluc's setup

A added resistors responsible for DC resistance of the transformer windings. I removed the zener diode too.
Now it seems that we have a win-win situation, where power is being returned to the grid (-17W) and at the same time power is being dissipated at the load (10W).
« Last Edit: November 01, 2011, 12:52:06 PM by kEhYo77 »

Offline SchubertReijiMaigo

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #483 on: November 01, 2011, 11:35:16 AM »
This circuit is much closer of the Transverter + Diode Plug extration (sine wave clipping) I have read once again over +200 pages of RV document that I keep inside my PC...  basically the RV circuit use CAP transformer and resonance, tuned in very High Q mode... Then they extract power from CAP with some transistor (like here) when the capacitor is at full voltage and current at 0, so extraction from resonance doesn't affect it... The input power remain reactive (like here, according your red curve) while delivering real joule to the load... A formula (based upon empirical experience) give you the maximum amount of extractable energy in caps because if you over extract then you start to kill resonance oscillation... The formula is 0.618* the circulating VARS in the trafo without the diode plug...
And last Vmean is negative but very small it could be with some imprecision here, the most important is the input is PF=0 here see the red curve energy back and forth to the source !!!

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #484 on: November 01, 2011, 12:10:01 PM »
Hi Kehyo

Thank's for the circuitery

Just a question about the transformer. In your setup you have 300 H and not 300 mH. Where do you find a so high inductance transformer ?

I have tried the circuit in the sim with 37 mH and 1.5 Ohm resistance and i can not go under 500 Hz at 10 volts input sig to get a higher output to input result in the sim.

Can you confirm the transformer at 300 H ?

Thank's

Laurent

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #485 on: November 01, 2011, 12:37:42 PM »
@woopy Yes. It was my mistake, sorry for that. I have edited my previous post now the inductance of the primary and the secondary is 300mH. Now it should be OK in the simulation too, when it comes to the in/out power.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #486 on: November 01, 2011, 01:16:24 PM »
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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #487 on: November 01, 2011, 02:51:35 PM »
I played with circuit and removed some components.
Could it be this simple?

-> Check out simplified circuit

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #488 on: November 01, 2011, 04:07:03 PM »
ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE HERE I WOULD LIKE TO WISH LUC A SAFE AND ENJOYABLE FLIGHT TO AFRICA...  8)

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW LUC VOLUNTEERS HIS CONSIDERABLE REPERTOIRE OF TALLENTS & SERVICES AT AN ASHRAM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL:D

YEP, SOUNDS LIKE LUC!  ;)

CHEERS
T

 

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #489 on: November 01, 2011, 04:56:01 PM »
Let There Be Light! 660W light out -700W back to the grid (European 230/50) :D
... I just have to try that! Thanks CRANKYpants

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect - Romero's circuit ...
« Reply #490 on: November 01, 2011, 06:30:25 PM »
Hi all, so we're all on crack and drugs and drink ?

I'm having a cup of tea and a ciggy, but i'm boring like that ;+}

@Luc and Keyho, Romero's circuit is the same as the standard SSG driving circuit but with a Hall sensor rather than a coil.

@ Thane,

thanks for advising me not to connect them serially !

Results of multi-coil tests :

No coils present.

hz : 502

ma : 452

1 coil present open circuit.

hz : 417
ma : 472

1 coil present short circuit.

hz : 505
ma : 445

2 coils present, both open circuit.

hz : 393
ma : 475

2 coils present, both short circuited.

hz : 514
ma : 438

3 coils present, open circuit.

hz : 388
ma : 474

3 coils present, all SC

hz : 511
ma : 440


I think i understand why two coils outperformed three with my setup.

Because it is a single-magnet rotor, the two coils on opposite sides of the magnet are synchronised in the sense that they both experience the flux change at the same time, whereas the third coil, which is in the middle of the other two, experiences flux-change after the first coil and before the second of the other two coils, so the timing is wrong and possibly fights against the effect from the other two.

I confirmed this by moving the third coil closer to one of the others and performance goes up.

Obviously the single-magnet design has it's limitations, the physical space required for many coils isn't available and the timing problem.

I'll be making a multi-magnet rotor now but in the meantime i'll experiment with getting power out of this device, time to order some high-current wire ;+}


All the best,

DC.





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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #491 on: November 01, 2011, 11:35:16 PM »
Let There Be Light! 660W light out -700W back to the grid (European 230/50) :D
... I just have to try that! Thanks CRANKYpants

Using that circuit simulator, you are graphing power consumed.

The source does not consume power , it generates power hence the negative power.

There is no overunity it that.

If you don't believe me, do your own calcs, graph the voltage ad current and multiply them, and you will get positive power.

Offline DeepCut

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #492 on: November 02, 2011, 12:43:36 AM »
Can anyone recommend a good circuit simulator ?


Cheers,

DC.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #493 on: November 02, 2011, 12:57:38 AM »
Hey Deep

Falstad.com has Circuit, as shown in posts above  ^   =]

Its very decent for free.

Poynt uses Spice, he may be able to help you with that.       
I havnt used it yet.

Mags

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #494 on: November 02, 2011, 01:04:07 AM »
The negative power in sims is not OU: It's a manner to display the power draw from source, if you have for example -10 watts peak, its' meaning you REMOVE 10 watts peak from source and not you inject it !!! It's a beginner error that I've learned few day ago when experimenting. I'm skeptic to extract resonance directly like this without High Q and Transverter diode plug clipping circuit (extracting without killing the resonance...)