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Author Topic: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect  (Read 688747 times)

Offline mondrasek

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 10:53:49 PM »
I have just tested it and it seems to be 66 Watts with the generator rotor removed, So when only running the plain motor.

@Overunityguide, did you remover the generator ROTOR or the coil?

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M.

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 10:53:49 PM »

Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2011, 11:11:52 PM »
@Overunityguide, did you remover the generator ROTOR or the coil?

Thanks,

M.

@mondrasek

I have removed the generator rotor, so the shaft only was turning.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

Offline sinergicus

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2011, 11:44:39 PM »
If  the magnets on the rotor will  have,all,the same poles up ,will be the accelerating effect present also?

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2011, 11:44:39 PM »
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Offline Mike Sliver

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2011, 05:31:22 AM »
Hello,
I am a lurker here,rarely comment. Now you mentioned shorting the coils. And I am thinking  what someone else has done with a ubolt and two coils and connects the coils to a battery and the expected electromagnetic effect of it being able to pickup a metal bars is evident, but when he disconnects the electric source the coils stay energized and are still able to pickup a steel bar after being disconnected from the energy source. See Ed Leedskalnin Magnetic current pt2  on you tube.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z3z1sftowg
I have seen others replicate this and Iam wondering if shorting the coils has a similar effect of storing energy. Now if this has been mentioned before. excuse me. Mike Sliver

Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2011, 11:23:10 AM »
Hello,
I am a lurker here,rarely comment. Now you mentioned shorting the coils. And I am thinking  what someone else has done with a ubolt and two coils and connects the coils to a battery and the expected electromagnetic effect of it being able to pickup a metal bars is evident, but when he disconnects the electric source the coils stay energized and are still able to pickup a steel bar after being disconnected from the energy source. See Ed Leedskalnin Magnetic current pt2  on you tube.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z3z1sftowg
I have seen others replicate this and Iam wondering if shorting the coils has a similar effect of storing energy. Now if this has been mentioned before. excuse me. Mike Sliver

Hi Mike

There is a difference between magnetic soft and magnetic hard iron coil cores. I am using a normal bolt as a core. So I don't think that what you say is taking place in this setup, what I think that takes place in my setup is the so called delayed Lenz / negative Lenz effect.

For the Theoretical Explanation Concerning this Effect Please look at the Following Link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins#p/u/0/Z1weXYivARo

Which is provided by Thane C Heins

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2011, 11:23:10 AM »
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Offline mondrasek

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2011, 04:31:05 PM »
I have removed the generator rotor, so the shaft only was turning.

@Overunityguide, when you removed the generator rotor, you also removed all the air drag that the rotor, and especially the projecting magnets and retaining screws, creates.  So this would result in decreased power consumption.  So I don't think you can compare that 66 watt reading to any of the others.

Did you test WITH the rotor, but WITHOUT the coil?

Thanks,

M.

Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2011, 07:55:01 PM »
@Overunityguide, when you removed the generator rotor, you also removed all the air drag that the rotor, and especially the projecting magnets and retaining screws, creates.  So this would result in decreased power consumption.  So I don't think you can compare that 66 watt reading to any of the others.

Did you test WITH the rotor, but WITHOUT the coil?

Thanks,

M.

@mondrasek,

I have just tried it and with the rotor, without the coil it runs at about 68 / 69 Watts idle on 3000 rpm

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

Confirming the Negative Lenz Effect:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2011, 07:55:01 PM »
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Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 09:41:20 PM »
After A couple of people asked for it digitally, here is my schematic

Kind Regards, Overunityguide
Thane C Heins Replication, Confirming the Negative Lenz Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

Offline minde4000

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2011, 06:56:50 AM »
After A couple of people asked for it digitally, here is my schematic

Kind Regards, Overunityguide
Thane C Heins Replication, Confirming the Negative Lenz Effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzxc3Ai4T3A

I have this kind of setup with high impedance single wire coil and bifilar coil and up to 3600 rpm driver with 18 NS magnets. Nothing special... You could follow thread on TC Heins device replication attempt. Me and at  least a couple of other replicators didnt get much. Accelerations "effect" is also simply explainable trick.  8)

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2011, 06:56:50 AM »
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Offline teslaalset

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2011, 07:08:09 PM »
@Overunityguide,

Can I ask you for a calibration measurement?
What is the actual power consumed when the whole coil setup is removed?

I am asking this because if the coil units contributes to let say 5 W of extra losses (e.g. eddy current losses in the core of the HV coil) and you notice a power drop of 2 W when connecting the load, you will still end up with 3 W of losses and this will be a very misleading experiment.

Thanks in advance,

Teslaalset,
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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2011, 11:05:45 PM »
Can I ask you for a calibration measurement?
What is the actual power consumed when the whole coil setup is removed?

@teslaalset,

Please see my previous posts, there you will find your answers...
And before calling it a very misleading experiment...
Please keep in mind: My video is only showing 'proof of principle'

Kind Regards, Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2011, 11:05:45 PM »
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Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2011, 11:20:03 PM »
I have done a second Video about the:

Delayed Lenz / Negative Lenz Effect for now:
The Difference Between Shorting and Loading

In which I show and clarify how you can get the regenerative acceleration effect when you Short your Generator Coil or when you try to Load your Generator Coil

So if you have any time left, here you can find it:
Delayed Lenz / Negative Lenz Effect, Difference Between Shorting and Loading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGstOJ4NDQQ

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

Offline teslaalset

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2011, 11:33:21 PM »
Please see my previous posts, there you will find your answers...
And before calling it a very misleading experiment...
Please keep in mind: My video is only showing 'proof of principle'

I am not suggesting you are possibly misleading, but when not correctly interpreted, your (and Thane's) setup could suggest this way OU is possible, although you're not speaking this out loud.

Shorting coils has been discussed here and at other fora quite often and some members think it's the holy grail to OU.
You're experiment + data shows it's not as simple as that.   

I missed the earlier post on the data without coil, I got it now.
The numbers are even worse than I thought.
9 W loss because of the coil setup, max 2 W gain when loaded with LEDS.

Thanks for sharing this.

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2011, 07:53:09 AM »

I missed the earlier post on the data without coil, I got it now.
The numbers are even worse than I thought.
9 W loss because of the coil setup, max 2 W gain when loaded with LEDS.


One has to remember that when full setup of coils would be implemented the drag will be much less and power required
to drive the rotor as well. All that he has to do is to place ODD number of those HV coils around the EVEN number of magnets rotor...

Offline Poit

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Re: Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2011, 08:37:41 AM »
75watts to run the generator

the led's probably consume 2 watts...

ok so its negative lenz effect, so it now consumes 72 watts or so.... but is the effect the same when you put a larger load on it? what happens if you put something that requires say 80watts? is it going to be 70watts in and 80watts out?

 

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