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weri812

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OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« on: August 29, 2011, 05:48:34 PM »
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From Spang

                                    OVBERBALANCING WHEEL WITH 'SLEWING' RING
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The 'Main-wheel', is caused to rotate by courtesy of a form of SLEWING-RING.  I say 'a form' of slewing ring, because this
slewing-ring is made up as follows:   The slewing-ring itself, is made of either, wood, metal, or plastic ----------------
it doesn't matter which.
This slewing-ring, has a solid center, which it is seperated from, by 'rollers' ----------- bearings, of some sort!
This center has an offset pivot to one side, (left) and a fairly large weight embeded in its right-hand side.
See drawing.  (It can also be 'pulled' down, by a 'tensioner' -------------- MY preference!)
The central wheel, is made to rotate, at the same speed as the 'rim' of the Main-wheel, by courtesy of, two (2) speed
exchange cogs ------------ one being attached to the 'rim' of the Main-wheel itself! (6 O'clock.)
If it were not for the weight that is embeded in the solid, & 'pivoted' center wheel ------- it could not work!
Imagine the 'slewing-wheel' WITHOUT any added weight!  The turning force it would make on the 'rim' of the Main-
wheel itself, would be TOTALY balanced by the force generated on the central-wheel!
Because the 'slewing' ring, is ALLWAYS heavier, on one side, than it is the other ---------------- it OVERBALANCES!
The 'pivoted' solid center ------- is supported externaly, as are the 'bridging' cogs.
The force generated on the 'rim' of the Main-wheel, is greater than the force generated on the central-wheel -------------
so that, when they meet, the greater force 'wins'.
Gentlemen, I think I've done it!(?)

Incidentaly, the further to the right-hand side, of the solid central-wheel, the weight is embeded ---------- the better!

fritznien

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2011, 07:27:11 PM »
yes one of bill's, if you think it so good, redraw the thing so one can see what your talking about.
i can not make heads or tails out of it.
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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 08:50:16 AM »
A clearer picture is on its way.




SPANG.                              (BILL.)

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 03:35:32 PM »
Good points fritznien,

It is clear as MUD.  LOL


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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 04:14:39 PM »
here is new picture  will not let me eddit old one

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 08:21:50 PM »
much clearer, your half way there.
one more time to show what it actually dose.
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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 10:54:05 PM »
At first look, all the weights and its respective positions perfectly balance in torque around the center of gravity (Which is not where is appears to be). If the center of gravity (CG) had been where Bill wants it to be (And where it appears to be), this wheel (and all other gravity wheels invented in history) would turn forever. But CG is not where it appears to be. So the whole thing is in perfect balance. Look closely at the weights, and their respective positions, also take gear ratios and torque ratios into account. Then you will understand why it cant work.

No, you do not have to comment my reply, Bill. The above is my personal point of view. Please allow me to have, and share, that point of view ;)

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 11:05:07 PM »
Fritznien,
             If you don't know, how do you expect ME to know?

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 11:12:04 PM »
Center of gravity ,  my foot!
Don't be so stupid!

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 11:28:09 PM »
Center of gravity ,  my foot!
Don't be so stupid!
You're funny ;D Learn about center of gravity before you call me stupid ;)

Vidar

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 12:38:41 AM »
LOW-Q,
         Stop balking tollocks.

fritznien

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 02:33:20 AM »
i am still waiting for a proper plan, all you have so far is a bunch of circles.
if you don't know how it goes together what are you going on about?
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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 06:26:15 AM »
MUCK SINE!

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 06:47:03 AM »
the center of gravity always center's out. no matter what design you have that doesn't put energy back into the system.

are you a tard?

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Re: OVERBALANCING WHEEL WITH SLEWING RING
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 07:15:19 AM »
LOW-Q,
         Stop balking tollocks.
You remind me of someone else here ("omnibus" or something). Never mind. Your design will not work.