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Offline Doug1

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Re: meyers vic
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2011, 01:50:57 PM »
Wouldnt flux core welding wire work if you coated it with an insulating layer.It comes in a lot of different sizes and it likes to roll up tight being sort of stiff.
  You uncovered some interesting info that makes me wonder about transformer development.

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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2011, 04:32:27 AM »
the best link for wire i can find i have given you, it is cheap, not ideal but works, welding wire as far as i know has problems. it is the science thrown in that should  get you thinking. read and think is all i ask.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2011, 04:58:28 AM by illuminati »

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2011, 12:41:16 PM »
If the real deal with the vic is the iron wire and the spin of the electron ,then the tubes mus be build from magnetic material like ss304  not 316l like every body does because the 316l is non magnetic and wil lose the spin propriety of the electron.. . no??? Stanley mayer used in his design ss304.   Maybe the all thing is the polarized curent and the high voltage for the vic . I have tried to make the polarization of the water without the vic ,only with 2 flyback transformers from monitors with no succes the current was 0 and the voltage was about 15-20 kv and nothing hapened, i varied the pulse freqvency from 200hz to 200khz and nothing .whitout a little curent u canot bring the voltage up in the water thats for shure .So i will try ss304 and iron wire transformer to see if the spin of the electron (or polarized current) will make a diference.  Anyway look at http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10466 it is conected with this teory and http://www.rexresearch.com/ehrenhaf/ehrenhaf.htm maybe we will conect them togheder somehow and understand what is realy hapening

P.S. sorry for my bad english
« Last Edit: August 26, 2011, 01:24:40 PM by crisssm »

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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2011, 12:41:16 PM »
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Offline CompuTutor

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Re: meyers vic
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2011, 02:18:03 AM »
The SS issue is an old and often misunderstood one.

here are some interesting viewpoints as example:
http://www.finishing.com/112/70.shtml
« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 09:34:02 AM by CompuTutor »

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2011, 04:20:38 AM »
hi lads

the tubes are a seperate issue, they have  a chemical reaction explained here

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16642199/WFCexpl

the hi voltage comes from this reaction. use 304 or 316 it makes little difference in this case

the vic needs to be made of iron wire for the reasons i have explained, the voltage out triggers a chemical reaction in the wfc.

secondary and chokes are wound as the vic matrix patent says (this i believe is the design for injectors) the reason i use this design is the primary can be removed without unwinding any other coils,secondary and chokes do not have to be wound perfect. primary has to create a perfect magnetic field.

the 8xa design is better for use with a wfc, but harder to build.
make sure you understand what i have posted to save time and effort in the long run
meyer and Felix Ehrenhaft technologys will not mix.

« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 04:47:54 AM by illuminati »

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Re: meyers vic
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2011, 04:56:18 AM »
@compututor

do you u go under the name dumped on another forum? maybe mistaken

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2011, 08:56:12 AM »
If I understand you correctly, yes, maybe I mean
I may have been one of the several "Dumped" lately
if the topic was overpriced water that is ...

I'll read the PDF referenced tomorrow, thanks,
I see you have posted more things here I need to read too.

EDIT:
I see you have a viewpoint a little different to what I have collected,
I edited out my above remarks as they may become distracting here.

I'll read the PDF tomorrow though, too late right now...


« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 01:15:30 PM by CompuTutor »

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Offline CompuTutor

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2011, 01:09:00 PM »
Isn't curiosity a stinker, heheh ?  :)

Had to get back up and read the PDF...

Anyway, here is something I did that may be helpful.



I was searching for a way to test "Wire" being sold as iron,
one of the things I (now) know is that it doesn't need to be insulated to work.

I know this one point, you don't agree with me on this point.

I took an aluminum bolt and slit the threaded end with a hacksaw,
just past the threads onto the bolt's shank a bit.

Then I chose an aluminum nut and spun it on until it stopped.

I cut off the remaining threads exposed so it was flush.

Then I wound one layer of copper wire onto the bolt's shank.

Basically an electromagnet wound on a core certain not to retain magnetism.

I would stick the test wire into the bolt's slot, and tighten the nut.

As the nut met where the threads stopped it would grasp the wire tightly.



The test wire was also wound on an aluminum bolt too,
but had a full foot long pigtail of straight wire left off it.

That pigtail would go into the first bolt's slot of course.

The stainless steel and regular steel wire would produce
very little magnetism in the test bolt core as expected.

But one of the fence wire samples I tested
produced more magnetism in the test core
than in the first copper wound test core.

Also, a meter placed across the SS and steel wire ends on the test core
produced almost no voltage due to being shorted as expected,
but that one "Iron" fence wire sample produced notable voltage,
even though by theory it should have also be shorted out too.

I kept one meter lead on the test core coil's unused end
and touched the sample coil at various points to test if
the sample might have a coating I had not detected...



I did a second test with heatshrink shrunk onto the test bolt's shank
and a piece of string wound along with the sample wire simultaniously,
to eliminate any shorting to the bolt or adjacent windings of the sample.

It produced less magnetism, but was a little shorter due to the string taking up space.

It also displayed less voltage too.



So to be fair, I unwound the string and re-wound the coil tight
with the same piece to make it short circuit again to itself only,
(I left the heatshrink on to maintain the diameter of the coil)
the magnitism increased, as did the voltage,
which being shorted now it should not have.

These are simple reproducable tests anyone can do themselves.



The other end of the test wire sample was trimmed at the bolt,
it only stuck out enough for a meter's clip lead for these tests.

I did this to prove to myself magnetic current exists,
and that it would travel into a second seperate winding,
and to test different wire samples to gauge differences.

What I did not expect was that a coil that by all accounts was shorted,
due to the wire being un-insulated and wound tightly and touching itself,
and wound onto a conductive bolt too to boot,
would produce a notable voltage across the test coil/core against logic.



I don't pretend to know why this works, or even how it does,
but it simply does, and is easy enough to reproduce yourselves.

It might be the basis for testing samples to find suitable materials to work with.

Seems to me the best core form to wind a VIC onto would be a torroid,
if the primary must be a perfect field to eliminate losses as emf I mean...

That is the only personal opinion I'll contribute at this point,
I'll just watch and read for a while now.



illuminati, I agree with all you have said, and respect your findings,
I only skimmed through the first time, and followed only a few links.

'my bad...

I'm re-reading all again,
and (also) some of the links answer a few other questions I had too.

Hope something above helps somehow.

Thanks  ;)


« Last Edit: August 27, 2011, 01:36:14 PM by CompuTutor »

Offline h20power

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Re: meyers vic
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2011, 08:47:18 PM »
i think we understand each other on there being hard times ahead, i have sacrificed a attempt at monetary gain to help people. i think we know where this problem stems from (aliens my arse). I get the feeling its to late.

What do u think h2o, should i buy a RV, few cells to power  it and head of for adventure, or maybe build a bunker. decisions  ::)

anyways nice to here from you h2o

happy days

illuminati

Hi illuminati,

I am planning on getting a RV convert it to run on water so I can ride away from danger with my family ridding along. Only time will tell if I can get everything working in time to make a difference. With the ground shaking I think being underground might be a bad idea, but with the earth passing through the Dwarf Star's tail in November and kinda being set on fire from all the tail dubree it's a toss up as to just what is the best course of action.

I sure hope we all make it.   :)

h2opower.

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« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2011, 05:51:46 AM »
@compututor

you removed the sensible bit and left that stainless steel nonsense  :P

Wooow, would it not be easier to wind a few primary turns of iron wire for test on a transformer then check the secondary. with pure iron the o/p will be full, it will decreases as test wire has more impuritys. 

Give us some of your wisdom on the actual vic build, a lot of what i seem to get is MIB`s giving dis-info.


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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2011, 06:15:27 AM »
@h2o
the problems will start to really affect us after the next 911 sized event, i have a idea it will be sooner rather than later. this narubu or whatever is unlikley to exist, what makes you so sure it does?

« Last Edit: August 28, 2011, 10:00:57 AM by illuminati »

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2011, 08:41:38 AM »
a little message to stevie and buddies,
steve, your problems dont stop with me. i did not have to do anything, i just have to wait. to make that more clear you are in a sinking ship regardless of me ever posting.



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Re: meyers vic
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2011, 03:40:40 PM »

Give us some of your wisdom on the actual vic build, a lot of what i seem to get is MIB`s giving dis-info.

@illuminati,

So do you think h2's cell design won't work?
http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=5867&postcount=396


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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2011, 01:12:37 AM »
i always hope it works and is practical, once a cell reaches meyers standard water as fuel becomes possible. so if h2o cell is good within 6 months it should be running a car engine, i cannot access the page without signing up so lets see what happens.

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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2011, 04:35:30 AM »
@h2o
the problems will start to really affect us after the next 911 sized event, i have a idea it will be sooner rather than later. this narubu or whatever is unlikley to exist, what makes you so sure it does?

Here is something for you to watch and learn from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GMILqaYX3Y&feature=share

Not much time is left to prepare for this.

Take the best of care,
h2opower

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