Hi Bill,
is this it 
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isnt this just an ambient termoelectric converter? the impurity in the paper plus the steel and magnet chould behave simmilar to a peltier element.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mX8S767zT4&NR=1

Really? Surely not. I know sweet fa about this stuff and am but a humble replicator. Based on what others told me in this group I had simply created a galvanic reaction. I'll have a dig for the original thread on this forum

Well put. I now understand that my personality express something different on paper than what my mind thinks. I will try to be more careful, more optimistic, a better listener, more patient. etc. and let that come out - not keep it inside my head. There is more of you I have noticed isn't very pleased by my many, some how looked at as sarcastic/negative, replies. I am sorry for this. it's just Vidar, me, my personality. It's hard to change that at mid-life.

Well, the truth about me is in my mind. My replies, comments, and so on, is never ment as destructive critisism, nor any attempt to pop the balloon of hope, joy and optimism in anyone. I do have a very critical, questioning, and sceptic attitude, that is partially inherited (Not from Odin ), and partially a shape of my childhood. I believe there is millions of people sharing some of these "properties". Nothing special about me. It's just how I'm been put together during 40 years.

We have all different personalities. I have mine, and others have theirs. I hope anyone can accept it.

BTW. The reason for "Low-Q", is related to loudspeakers. The lower the Q is (The ability to oscillate), the better control with the speaker, and the audiable output. You see, I'm an loudspeaker engineer. I'm also a petimeter - it can never be good enough (it some how reflects my personality).

Next time you or anyone read anything "negative" from me, please imagine a smily ( ) at the end of the reply. No harm meant. (The imaginary smily is suppose to be about here)

EDIT: I whish I could take your personal attack on me with a pinch of salt. But I guess that was not ment as bad as it is written (?) If so, I have read between the lines, and will try to be a better person.

br.

Vidar

Hi Over_Unity forumers,
Sorry, this is an off-Bill-Mehess-Breakthru topic.

@Vidar,
Sorry for my late responding.
Actually, I 'delayed' reading your answer as I avoid ranting/diatribe.
I should not have retarded it. Thanks for your clever explanations. I was thinking about you as a 'shill'. I was wrong. I was really irritated by (most of) your posts but I usually try not being too offensive. Actually, it was a personal attack but not a too aggressive one (to me ).

OK!
Vidar is not so careful, not so optimistic, not so patient.
Vidar could be sarcastic/negative.
Vidar has nothing to do with Odin.

In my opinion, Vidar does not need to change his own personalitie and be a 'better' person.

Vidar is Vidar and let it be.

I'm serious.

Very Best

So your now yet again not keeping to your word on showing this device today as you for the second time have planned?  So why Bill do you not open source it so this HUGE group mind can help make progress?  We are willing to accept licensing fees if that is what it takes, no problem. 

It would seem there is a problem though.  It is with keeping your word which IS your promise. 

Lots of good people here have heard these type of easy words for years here and ALL have turned out to be void.  If you are a man to be trusted then be true to your word.  We are not here to play games, we are not here to judge you.  We are not here to waste time, we are not here to give someone attention.  We are here to share and move forward with a great capacity of many, many minds making analysis and reforming ideas.
Reviewing what works and what is not, we all (cept the trolls) want to make headway, by not contributing to this Bill many people are attending to your topic.  This may be difficult to see since you are finding engagement and even enjoyment from our attentions.  But since you are not keeping your word as you have said "TWICE" now,  it is wasting precious time.  Our lives only have so much time each,  we are giving you part of precious life.  So I ask you respect what that is really worth and either make your device in the open so we can all work on it or wait until you can decide (honestly) to open source it.  Or else people are using up very precious time from their goals to snap up your dangling bait.  You are a salesman and know how to use the baiting technique very well (such as you telling others you were making violins).  What honor does that show, Bill respect us and admit your mistakes and we will honor that, you will have friendships here (we are all human and make mistakes).  But real friendship fills needs within soul of both and are not one sided.  Don't you want that really?  Trust is a great thing, trust us to accept you and what you may or may not have.  Try us, we are a great bunch of people, we are willing and able to help where you really need it.  Please don't take offense at my words Bill.  We want to help not harm.  We all have need for this warm friendly human forum and are seeking not only to find a way to use natural principles to harvest energy, but we are also able to gain support and glean from experience and add to our work and self from each other.  If this is to embarrassing to admit then just remake an account and present your ideas and let us restart being friends with you. But I must tell you, you will be far ahead if you just be honest with us and TRUST us to accept you as you are.  We will have respect for your honesty.  Bill you are my brother and I want you to know I care about you and want you to be happy, that is all I can do unless you care back.

Thanks for all your effort Bill, good luck!!!

Right now I am in the milliwatt range a few weeks ago I was in the microwatt range so progress is being made.

@BM

Don't forget to drop in and say hello when you are in the wattsup range. lol

No really great news so keep going. We never really realize the distance between a microwatt and a milliwatt and a watt. Only when you are building something in microwatt increments does it really show itself.

Do you realize all the blah, blah you just saved yourself by delaying your demo.

So I  have one sticky question for you and please do not take it in any wrong way because it is only intended to be in a right way. Do you feel yourself to be mature enough so that at one point, if you realize you need help to advance to the next level, you will ask the help and do you have a logical time frame for that.

There are guys on this forum that have the knowledge in many areas that may be useful and I am sure if your sent them a PM with either a request for help or just questions you may have.

Maybe one other question. Are you working your increase in multiples of the same or simply building a bigger unit with thicker wires, etc. Sometimes going bigger is not better because you lose the sensitivity that may be required to push them freebies along.

wattsup

For now Lidmotors "Penny" is much more convincing than a "magical device" announced but never shown. I also wonder how billmehess gets the idea, that 0.x microwatts will impress anyone in a public demonstration and already starts to make commercial plans... uhm, isn't this a little bit naive? How old are you, billmehess?

Now he found out "yeah, it's true it will not impress anyone, lemme improve it...". I mean, wasn't this clear from the beginning? Oh, and the device is too precious to reveal it an share with anyone, for all in all, we only want to steal the idea - at least I will, so make sure you don't demonstrate it in here, because I can read it. And so will the MIB. Pardon me, but I can foretell where this ends: delay delay delay for the public demo... until it turns out to be another hoax, or the device is forgotten because there was nothing ever in it or the inventor finds out his device is a galvanic cell or whatever. Of course this works in a faraday cage as well.

Sorry, I've not read all 19 pages, just picked up 3-4 posts - but they showed me again, that there was still not mentioned anything substantial from the inventor to the device. 19 pages in which he wants people to give him feedback, tap on his shoulder how great he is... and yet... nothing's there... We've had that in the past, we have it now, and we'll have this in the future.

Oh, and @inventor: before telling me, I am the mega-pessimist: have you thought about that there are many skilled people in here where you can learn from, and if there is really something to your invention, that they can actually help you to improve it?

Hey Bill

Do the leads have to be submerged?

Mags

@BH

Y'a man. Thanks a heep.
Looks simple enough except for the coating thing.

OK, here are some questions that come to mind.

1) Does it work as well when the lights in the room are turned off and all other electrical appliances are turned off?

2) Leaving the volt meter in line may be a problem for a public demo at those mV levels. What if you take off the meter and replace it with a capacitor with or without a germanium diode. Then check the volts with your meter occasionally, take a measurement then remove the meter.

3) Maybe put a small toroid coil primary in series with a secondary and put that in series before a diode to cap to see if it can act as an energy pump by increasing the saturation in the toroid core.

Keep going. No rush.

wattsup