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Author Topic: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS  (Read 180427 times)

loosecannon

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #135 on: August 17, 2011, 02:09:42 AM »
thank you Bill.

this means that your results stand a much better chance of being repeatable.

bourne,
no, not a veiled warning.
sometimes these threads just die suddenly, and some assume its because the device did not really work.
that is not always the case.
LC

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #136 on: August 17, 2011, 02:16:43 AM »
I'm still confused is it Tuesday the 30th or Wednesday the 31st.

billmehess

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #137 on: August 17, 2011, 02:23:13 AM »
Sorry about that
It's Wed Aug 31


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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #138 on: August 17, 2011, 02:39:13 AM »
If Tak goes to the event will he be allowed to recite poetry??


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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #139 on: August 17, 2011, 03:07:12 AM »
If Tak goes to the event will he be allowed to recite poetry??

Only if we spot some MIB's.  That will drive them away faster than a cat chasing mice.  ;)

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #140 on: August 17, 2011, 03:13:33 AM »
I cannot find a single valid reason for non-disclosure at this point.

Not one. (Monetary gains? Uncertainty about the device? Does not work quite yet?)

This approach is proven to fail and that´s a pity. If you have found a working passive generator do yourself and the world a favor and disclose what you have found as soon as possible without any drama nor mystery.

The world needs this now more than ever. And as I said before: you will get the honor, glory and be rich all at once. No need for a company, demo or anything else. A youtube instructional video with links to blueprints will do just fine.

billmehess

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #141 on: August 17, 2011, 06:00:46 AM »
I cannot find a single valid reason for non-disclosure at this point.

Not one. (Monetary gains? Uncertainty about the device? Does not work quite yet?)

This approach is proven to fail and that´s a pity. If you have found a working passive generator do yourself and the world a favor and disclose what you have found as soon as possible without any drama nor mystery.

The world needs this now more than ever. And as I said before: you will get the honor, glory and be rich all at once. No need for a company, demo or anything else. A youtube instructional video with links to blueprints will do just fine.
Everything you are asking for will happen on Aug. 31 2011. Not 2 years from now or 2 months from now but 2 weeks from now.
Bill

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #142 on: August 17, 2011, 06:29:49 AM »
OK --

I've checked my math and found it correct, to recap:

 53 MICROwatts for Bill's 10-module system (connecting the 6-modules with the 4-modules). 

 See below along with previous posts -- I have also checked from Bill's comments that the 280mV rise in the 4900 uF cap took one hour for "the two sets of modules together in series".

  But please correct me if my calculations are wrong, because, Bill and other friends,  this is a very VERY tiny effect:

1.  53 uW for 10 modules means about 5.3 microwatts/module (average)

2.  To reach just ONE watt would thus require about 189,000 modules.

3.  Earlier there was an indication that one could get the materials needed to build a module at a hardware store for less than $20.  OK, let's say just $10.

4.  Combining 2 and 3, we find that for ONE stinkin' watt it will cost roughly $1,890,000 -- nearly 2 million bucks ! 

5.  Let's take roughly 1 kW to run a house (a low estimate I believe) -- the cost for the modules (with present data) would be $1,890,000,000 or nearly $2 Billion bucks.  That's billion with a "B".
  I can't afford it.


5.  By comparison, solar panels are now available for about $1.50 per watt output, a factor of roughly a million CHEAPER than this device, at present.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I hope I'm wrong.  OR -- I hope the device can be SCALED up in output POWER by a factor of roughly a million without raising the price... Is this possible?




 
Yes this would certainly help me , and yes I meant to say uf not mf. When I connect the two sets of modules together in series I get again around a 700 mv out put , but the total of the summation of all the individuals is around 1400 mv, voltage loss?
Anyway at 700 mv connected to the cap. and using a multimeter and starting with the cap reading 0.00 the cap will charge at the rate of about 180 mv/hour.
Now I have a way to increase the current output substanially to radically improve the amperage available.
Based on these figures could you calculate the power output.
The physical size of the 10 modules  is around 12" x 5" x 5" total for all 10. This can be scaled down greatly but that size is not really of concern to me at this point in the game.
Bill

I just re-read above the voltage on the cap after 1 hr is 280 mv not 180 mv.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2011, 06:55:28 AM by JouleSeeker »

billmehess

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #143 on: August 17, 2011, 07:08:06 AM »
OK --

I've checked my math and found it correct, to recap:

 53 MICROwatts for Bill's 10-module system (connecting the 6-modules with the 4-modules). 

 See below along with previous posts -- I have also checked from Bill's comments that the 280mV rise in the 4900 uF cap took one hour for "the two sets of modules together in series".

  But please correct me if my calculations are wrong, because, Bill and other friends,  this is a very VERY tiny effect:

1.  53 uW for 10 modules means about 5.3 microwatts/module (average)

2.  To reach just ONE watt would thus require about 189,000 modules.

3.  Earlier there was an indication that one could get the materials needed to build a module at a hardware store for less than $20.  OK, let's say just $10.

4.  Combining 2 and 3, we find that for ONE stinkin' watt it will cost roughly $1,890,000 -- nearly 2 million bucks ! 

5.  Let's take roughly 1 kW to run a house (a low estimate I believe) -- the cost for the modules (with present data) would be $1,890,000,000 or nearly $2 Billion bucks.  That's billion with a "B".
  I can't afford it.


5.  By comparison, solar panels are now available for about $1.50 per watt output, a factor of roughly a million CHEAPER than this device, at present.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I hope I'm wrong.  OR -- I hope the device can be SCALED up in output POWER by a factor of roughly a million without raising the price... Is this possible?

billmehess

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #144 on: August 17, 2011, 07:13:01 AM »
OK --

I've checked my math and found it correct, to recap:

 53 MICROwatts for Bill's 10-module system (connecting the 6-modules with the 4-modules). 

 See below along with previous posts -- I have also checked from Bill's comments that the 280mV rise in the 4900 uF cap took one hour for "the two sets of modules together in series".

  But please correct me if my calculations are wrong, because, Bill and other friends,  this is a very VERY tiny effect:

1.  53 uW for 10 modules means about 5.3 microwatts/module (average)

2.  To reach just ONE watt would thus require about 189,000 modules.

3.  Earlier there was an indication that one could get the materials needed to build a module at a hardware store for less than $20.  OK, let's say just $10.

4.  Combining 2 and 3, we find that for ONE stinkin' watt it will cost roughly $1,890,000 -- nearly 2 million bucks ! 

5.  Let's take roughly 1 kW to run a house (a low estimate I believe) -- the cost for the modules (with present data) would be $1,890,000,000 or nearly $2 Billion bucks.  That's billion with a "B".
  I can't afford it.


5.  By comparison, solar panels are now available for about $1.50 per watt output, a factor of roughly a million CHEAPER than this device, at present.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I hope I'm wrong.  OR -- I hope the device can be SCALED up in output POWER by a factor of roughly a million without raising the price... Is this possible?
My demo will show a device delivering considerbly more output, the figures I gave you is off my bench model with none of the upgrades I have yet to incorporate.
Bill

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #145 on: August 17, 2011, 11:31:10 AM »

It never ceases to amaze me the level of paranoia some people have. There are not paid trolls looking at this or any other OU forum. We did land on the moon and no there are no alien towers on Mars.

So you are as safe as the rest of us. More danger from meteorites than the MIB.

The reason why we have never heard of a working ou device is because one has never successfully been made. We would have heard about it otherwise. we have heard of hundreds of failed devices and of plenty of fraud. OU comes with all the usual lowlives prepared to take others for a ride.

The reason why threads go silent is the 'inventor' suddenly realises he has made a mistake and it cannot be done. They go quiet mainly from pure embarrassment.

Some people will make claims like I know of twenty OU devices. But in fact they know of twenty youtube videos that they want to be true. that's it nothing else.

Jouleseeker is correct in his summation. It worries me when Bill say's that's his current setup, not the enhancements he is planning. In other words its not tested. 5.3 microwatts can be easily got from dissimilar metals as in a  thermocouple, a small piece of quarts crystal as in a piezo electric device. a magnet and a coil which vibrates when the wind rattles the house. Wire up a speaker and watch the voltage across is as people speak.

There a plenty of ways to develop this sort of voltage/current and mistakenly believe its an ou device.

Sorry Bill I do not mean to be disrespectful, but I am now seriously concerned.


CC


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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #146 on: August 17, 2011, 02:43:23 PM »
It never ceases to amaze me the level of paranoia some people have. There are not paid trolls looking at this or any other OU forum. We did land on the moon and no there are no alien towers on Mars.

So you are as safe as the rest of us. More danger from meteorites than the MIB.

The reason why we have never heard of a working ou device is because one has never successfully been made. We would have heard about it otherwise. we have heard of hundreds of failed devices and of plenty of fraud. OU comes with all the usual lowlives prepared to take others for a ride.

The reason why threads go silent is the 'inventor' suddenly realises he has made a mistake and it cannot be done. They go quiet mainly from pure embarrassment.

Some people will make claims like I know of twenty OU devices. But in fact they know of twenty youtube videos that they want to be true. that's it nothing else.

Jouleseeker is correct in his summation. It worries me when Bill say's that's his current setup, not the enhancements he is planning. In other words its not tested. 5.3 microwatts can be easily got from dissimilar metals as in a  thermocouple, a small piece of quarts crystal as in a piezo electric device. a magnet and a coil which vibrates when the wind rattles the house. Wire up a speaker and watch the voltage across is as people speak.

There a plenty of ways to develop this sort of voltage/current and mistakenly believe its an ou device.

Sorry Bill I do not mean to be disrespectful, but I am now seriously concerned.


CC

You make a lot of valid points. Just last night I tested random chunks of metal and was able to get a constant 60mv output and use a small cap to capture the energy.

It's really easy to mistake such discovery's as OU. One can even power a red LED by creating just a small difference of potential.

I do wish you the best of luck Bill and I hope you shock the world on the 31st with your discovery :)

-Altrez


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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #147 on: August 17, 2011, 03:45:15 PM »
You make a lot of valid points. Just last night I tested random chunks of metal and was able to get a constant 60mv output and use a small cap to capture the energy.

It's really easy to mistake such discovery's as OU. One can even power a red LED by creating just a small difference of potential.

I do wish you the best of luck Bill and I hope you shock the world on the 31st with your discovery :)

-Altrez

Thats exactly what im worried about.... lets assume for a second that Bill is certain there is no galvanic reaction what so ever...... it still could be radio waves powering his device....

@Bill.. have you tried running your device in a faraday cage? Also, what messures have you done to ensure you have not deceived your self in the findings? like the faraday cage example... or looking for corrosion of any potentional difference of metals in your device...

good luck
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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #148 on: August 17, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »
jesus people... give it rest until the 31st. find something to do other than endless speculation. try real life, the outdoors, or a game of solitaire if you're that freaking bored... this thread is 10 pages already, it will be 40 pages before the 31st. pathetic. ::)

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #149 on: August 17, 2011, 04:12:35 PM »
I understand your concern please review what I have claimed.

Voltage in = 0
Voltage out = 800 mv
No electrolytes
No consumables
No heat produced
No emissions
Yes the power (wattage) is low on my bench model
I will be begining today to add my upgrades to increase the power output.
I have never claimed that I am going to show a device that will run a car but a device that is producing a steady output of  energy with NO INPUT. This device is very scaleable.
Don't be concerned at this point about the low wattage reading I expected that. I have the solutions.
I am moving at a logical pace and my methodolgy is solid.
I will be in my shop all day and do not plan to even look at this site until tonight-to distracting.
Bill

  Thanks Willy Right you are!