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Author Topic: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS  (Read 150926 times)

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #225 on: August 23, 2011, 01:14:48 AM »
    I don't think I've been behaving like an "impetuous child", WilbyInebriated and I find your insinuation offensive.      As I wrote to Bill, one can learn a lot from the output power, and he graciously made measurements on that.
of course you don't... impetuous people/children usually don't. ::) it wasn't an insinuation and i find your behavior offensive... and what then can you tell me from these voltage measurements? can you provide me a parts list? can you provide me a schematic? no, you cannot. all you can provide are assumptions, speculations and conjecture... ::) why not wait until the demo? are you obsessed?

You wrote:
Aug. 31st would be fine-- but if you will read the thread, that date has been delayed.
whatever ::) amended to "whatever date bill sets"  happy now? and do you think you can wait patiently until then? ::)

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #226 on: August 23, 2011, 04:48:33 AM »
Wow, Some of you really screwed this one up. He was going to have a demo on the 31st. We would have gotten all the info to replicate, improve, and test his idea. But nooooooooooooo, some of you are so scared, impatient, and just plain dumb imo. You had to make him feel as you do about an OU device coming out. That he must be wrong until you get your way. Thanks, I don't care how much power it was putting out. I cared about the process and you fella's (not all of ya) took that from me and the rest of us that were waiting. Oh well,,,,,Guess there are always bullies no matter what age we are in. Peace.
 

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #227 on: August 23, 2011, 08:23:41 AM »
I never bullied Bill.... I had two main points
1: In the entire history of human kind, not once has an over unity device gone fully opened source
and
2: I would like Bill to be the first


If you look closer at the other so called "bullies" you will find there message isn't as negative as you painted it....

When you have 100% failure rate, history is hard to ignore.... sure we can be optimistic, but due to such an incredible failure rate, it has to be careful optimism

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #227 on: August 23, 2011, 08:23:41 AM »
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Offline Jack Noskills

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #228 on: August 23, 2011, 09:23:53 AM »
Bill has a good thing going on here, lets not spoil it by wasting energy on ranting each other.

In demo you dont have to show a perfect product but Bill would do a big a favour if he could tell people beforehand what to expect. For example, device outputs x watts using material that costs less than x dollars per watt and it requires about x cubic centimeters of space/watt.

If device is scalable without limit and still has room for development then it can only get better and after disclosure others can help. A good comparing point is solar power, 1.5 dollars / watt and difficult to install. Bills device runs 24/7/365 where as solar power does not and it could possibly be placed in cellar out of sight and mind. In my opinion Bill's device may therefore cost more and still be competitive to solar.

My concern is this, people come in with high expectations and could get disappointed. Then they might stop looking into it and possibly that one guy who could make a potential difference is lost at this point. Would be a pitty for everybody.

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2011, 01:23:18 PM »
Hi Bill

Was looking forward to the 31st August demo and maybe having a go at replicating your discovery.
Will wait till September time though, do it at your own pace mate.

Even if you can run a couple of LED's and there is no input needed and it lasts for a long, long, LONG! time, then that is a breakthrough.

Been meaning to get round to making one of John Hutchinsons little cells since he open sourced it a couple of months ago, just to have a LED sat there lit up and see how many years it lasts !!

Look forward to seeing this mystery being revealed and well done mate.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
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Offline wattsup

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #230 on: August 23, 2011, 03:55:30 PM »
Wow, Some of you really screwed this one up. He was going to have a demo on the 31st. We would have gotten all the info to replicate, improve, and test his idea. But nooooooooooooo, some of you are so scared, impatient, and just plain dumb imo. You had to make him feel as you do about an OU device coming out. That he must be wrong until you get your way. Thanks, I don't care how much power it was putting out. I cared about the process and you fella's (not all of ya) took that from me and the rest of us that were waiting. Oh well,,,,,Guess there are always bullies no matter what age we are in. Peace.

Oh grow up man. Disclosing to open source has always been the way. All other ways have always failed. Making a demo with microwatts would have just caused most all to find so many other reasons for the effects. If Bill wants to do a demo, then for him to up the ante is only a good thing for all and will create much less concern about transmitted fields, hidden batteries, trick capacitors, etc., etc. A demo is like a potable water analysis. The result is either good or bad. There is no in between. If it is bad, it will create so much commotion that we will never hear about this anymore because the guy will be so pissed off at everyone for not believing him. A good demo will cover the device, how it works, easy access to all the components for inspection, easy visible and instrument analysis, etc. This will neutralize all objections and put the device in the forefront where it belongs. So if you want to do a public demo, the real public service is in doing it right the first time. We have seen too many fail and have at least some foresight to anticipate problems. Now how stupid is that?

Of course the easy way is to simply disclose since yes, output does not matter when there is 0 input. The principle is what counts. But that is not in the cards so after that, the next best thing is to make sure the demo goes well. For that, I prefer to wait as long as it takes since the former (open source now) will not happen. You take the good with the bad and try to make the best of it. I think Bills solution was a good mix of both. Microwatts usually means a microvolt times a microamp. In the micro range, this can be accounted for in endless ways so again, upping the ante is a good move. Leave no room for guessing, or the least room possible.

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
Hi Bill

Was looking forward to the 31st August demo and maybe having a go at replicating your discovery.
Will wait till September time though, do it at your own pace mate.

Even if you can run a couple of LED's and there is no input needed and it lasts for a long, long, LONG! time, then that is a breakthrough.

Been meaning to get round to making one of John Hutchinsons little cells since he open sourced it a couple of months ago, just to have a LED sat there lit up and see how many years it lasts !!

Look forward to seeing this mystery being revealed and well done mate.

Cheers

Sean.

Sean,  that's good news.  I didn't know John H. had finally open sourced his cells.  Can you point to someplace that has this info? 

I agree with wattsup on this.  I think most are acting out of fear here.  Fear that Bill won't get this done right or that he will be stopped.  Fear that others will delay this by putting doubts out there.  The source of all anger is Fear (False Evidence Appearing Real F.E.A.R.)  so can we all get a handle on that and realize that most everyone wants this to move forward and that others are simply trying to help.  Out of fear some are simply misinterpreting help as hindrance. 

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2011, 04:34:41 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #232 on: August 23, 2011, 04:52:20 PM »
Wattsup
I believe you are a veteran of Field demonsrations?
I think it was you Who went and saw Daniel Palmero [probably slaughtered the last name]
 The Autistic fellow with The "Touch" up in Canada
Makes Cell phones work from Drawings and such??

You are the "Super Sleuth"!

Bill is doing very well taking your advice!!

@EMatrix
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=972.msg298578#new

A hot Topic with some very cool OU engineers Playing with the "Hutches"
Work,Like Bill said The early days of flight..............

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #233 on: August 23, 2011, 04:52:27 PM »
...
 If it is bad, it will create so much commotion that we will never hear about this anymore because the guy will be so pissed off at everyone for not believing him.
...
wattsup

Well, it does not verify in practice…
Look at Thomas and his plain BS about pyramid power; he’s already at the third (or more?) attempt and people still buy at him. Look at Steorn too. But look no further than current case: several years ago Bill himself was announcing and widely advertising (through a dedicated web site?) a ‘very solid OU device’ based on mechanical clocks & magnets if I recall it correctly.
Please don’t get me wrong, I do not intend to discourage present efforts but just to make a point based on facts that are simply puzzling to me.

Imho such a story may be kept alive and re-launched on the market forever; what’s worst is there are good chances it becomes a(nother) legend…

Cheers,
Tinu

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
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Offline CLaNZeR

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #234 on: August 23, 2011, 06:31:22 PM »
Sean,  that's good news.  I didn't know John H. had finally open sourced his cells.  Can you point to someplace that has this info? 

Hi e2

Here is direct link to Johns video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xf_JBnDOBw&feature=related

It a bit whacky, but bear with it, till it gets to the cell making bit.

Sorry for off topic post as well.

Cheers

Sean.

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #235 on: August 23, 2011, 06:37:26 PM »
[...] plain BS [...]

Perhaps good to have people identify themselves with strong opinions...

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #236 on: August 24, 2011, 06:17:44 AM »
Why do I somehow imagine the T.Henry Moray Radiant energy device on a much simpler and safer version with this. haha

Whatever this is, Looking forward. =]

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #237 on: August 24, 2011, 06:27:14 PM »
Hi Wattsup
I agree with what you said (Reply 185), I did some tests some time ago using a washer a piece of paper and a magnet, I managed to produce millivolts without any input  :o unfortunately it was to unstable for any practical use,I am of course presuming that Bills device is very similar.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8203.msg205952#msg205952

Bill I hope You have discovered a solution to the world's energy needs, I believed I had come up a solution many years ago, what a feeling it was, butterflies in the stomach and what to do next, needless to say my theory didn't work out when put in to practice.

I do think you should open source sooner than later,especially considering how many people here will help you develop your device.

However it works I wish you all the best.

cat

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #238 on: August 27, 2011, 04:27:36 AM »
Everyone patiently waiting for Bill? I am. Bill, any new information as to when and where for the live demo? Still the same time and place already mentioned?
Good luck,
Doug

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Re: PLEASE READ THIS-MAJOR BREAK THRU FROM BILL MEHESS
« Reply #239 on: August 29, 2011, 02:32:30 PM »
Bill,

Is the time an date still correct for the release on Wednesday? You haven't posted so I was unsure if something had changed.

-Altrez

 

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