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Author Topic: Minto Wheels  (Read 14459 times)

Offline KSW

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Minto Wheels
« on: April 10, 2005, 11:54:30 PM »
Hey guys

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/minto.htm

Has anybody here tried making a minto temperature wheel/device? Any Success?

I read that it only needs a heat difference of 3degrees, and that it produced a fair amount of toruqe.
The high torque of this could be used to reduce gearing so that the low rotational speed could be geared for higher output yes?

It seems a fairly plausible idea, but how could you get the difference in temperature without having to use "outside" sources (like burning oil). I know the sun could be an option ... although here in jolly old (not very sunny) england it could cause some problems :P

With the cooler weather here would it be possible/more efficent to invert the cycle so there is a cooling portion above and then somehow insulate the bottom porition to keep it warmer than the upper portion?

Just gathering more ideas

oh and does anybody have any suggestions for a simple cheap easy way to build one of these, as a test. not some super efficient device

Kane
« Last Edit: April 11, 2005, 12:05:55 AM by Kane »

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Offline kenbo0422

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 01:23:18 AM »
How about putting methylene chloride into the tubes that are supposed to imbalance the wheels and since it dips below the surface of water, let it also be covered with a thin layer of felt (like the drinking bird) and as it comes out of the water and the minute heat dissipating from evaporation will cause an imbalance in the wheel.  Think of it as a circular drinking bird generator.  You probably wouldn't need that much of an ambient temp. difference.

Whaddya think??  :)

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2005, 12:19:17 PM »
I like it, impractical, but a real treasure to show off to be sure

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2005, 12:19:17 PM »
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Offline DADINK

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2005, 12:19:56 PM »
Bruce willis is it???

Offline sypherios

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 07:50:56 PM »
yoguys are forgetting minatodoesnt need heat ne more hes got the whole 990% elec efficiency goin on!

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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2005, 02:17:47 AM »
you could EASLY GET -O-V-E-R-U-N-I-T-Y WITH THIS. 8hp from a W-A-T-E-R W-H-E-E-L- (AND use an small electric current to heat the water)OR USE A Candle LOL!

Get some gears .. um Tough gears , it spins at 1Rev a minute but 8 Hp (like a diesal Engine,how powerful are diesal generators again? something like 5-7hp?)

While I gazed in disbelief, Wally explained how his incredible power wheel works (see diagram above).

A few weeks later I again visited the Kinetics lab. By then the propane bottles had evolved into 12 containers of steel pipe welded into a polygon. The principle remained the same. I watched as Wally opened the valve to let in a trickle of water from solar panels on the roof of his parking shed. The water temperature was 155 degrees F.

Almost imperceptibly, the wheel started to turn. The speed picked up a bit and I timed a revolution -about one rpm. Minto noted my misgivings. "Try holding onto the shaft," he said. I grabbed the shaft firmly - it was as if I'd tried to stop some eerie, irresistible force: no sound, no evidence of power, just pure twist.

"Picture one 200 feet in diameter," he said. This time my mind boggled. Such a rig might hoist the pyramids.

Wally doesn't expect industrialized nations to scramble for his wheel, and he isn't selling anything. He's donating it as a "gift to the world" and expects it will be used in undeveloped, energy-short areas.

For example, a practical 33-ft. diameter wheel running on a temperature difference of as little as 3 1/2 degrees F and producing several horsepower could pump irrigation water, grind grain, or saw wood. The materials could be scrap pipe, and no machining or skills are needed to build it. Several low-boiling materials might be used, but propane or R-12 may be best.

Minto estimates a slightly larger (40-ft.) wheel with 14 pairs of 1-ft. x 4 1/3-ft. containers would provide 10,240 ft./lb. of work per container as each 269 lb. of liquid responds to gravity through a 20ft. lever arm. At only one rpm this is 8.69 hp; not spectacular, but low cost and capable of running steadily for generations. The slow rotational speed can be stepped up to whatever is needed, just as with the old-time waterwheels.

No fuel would be needed in many cases. The temperature difference required between the liquid on the bottom and the top occurs naturally in many situations: water and air, light and shade, etc.

Minto has outlined construction details in a two-sheet paper entitled "The Minto Wheel." There are no restrictions on building or experimenting with the wheel.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2005, 04:22:51 AM by lltfdaniel1 »

Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2005, 04:13:49 AM »
a 8 hp engine can power a 5kw G-E-N-E-R-A-T-O-R.

How much power do you need to heat water , or even a bit of it?

why hasnt anybody tryed this / or have,......

0_0 OIL!!!! DRINK OIL!!!!

DOH!!!

THIS IS A ENERGY ALTERNATIVE ISNT IT?

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Offline lltfdaniel1

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Re: Minto Wheels
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 04:18:38 AM »
AND ITS VERY SIMPLE TO BUILD THEN RATHER FIGUREING OUT HOW TO MAKE A STUPID MEG RUN.

And low cost and CHEAPER THEN A MAGNET MOTOR.

+GEARS + ALTERNATOR (IF YOU USE USED AND POSSIBLY NEW..)

AND USE THE ELECTRIC WHICH IS GENERATRED (AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE MUCH TO HEAT WATER 2C , DO YOU???)

MORE LIKE 200 -500W > 3-4KW o_0.

THE ONLY DOWNSIDE WOULD BE ERM NOTHING .

OR BUY A 500 W HEATER

so Overunity can be made with this 19'70's motor

a 500 w heater is hotter then your Hand , so a sterling engine can run on your hand (low temp) , so Overunity looks GUARENTEED With this 70'S Machine.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2005, 04:31:37 AM by lltfdaniel1 »

 

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