Alternative medicine > Electro-Health
DIY - Stable Redox Molecules
gravityblock:
Qiman banned me from EF, LOL. He said I was insulting people for not believing the same as I do. I don't see where I insulted anybody. It was actually the other way around, where qiman was insulting me, since I didn't believe as he did. He also said I remained anonymous and that is a pretty cowardly thing to do. The real cowardly thing to do is to ban someone for having opposing views. Qiman isn't using his real name here, but is anonymous on this forum, as I was on EF. I guess qiman is cowardly all through out. Trying to leach millions from the members of EF for his own financial gain is totally dis-respectful and disgusting.
GB
CompuTutor:
Banned me too, the iraditant asshole (WeThePeople),
I'm still waiting for him to let me back into EF
to delete my messages/attachments, posts, and account.
I've even sent him a PM asking him to do it himself !
If I cannot reply to that which I have posted already,
I should be granted the right to remove my content !
PERIOD !
I opposed the fact that it is just balanced water,
and that it sucks at that price point, I was polite.
I was accussed of swearing and other things I didn't do !
I can login and read my own posts still,
so I know that statement is true !
Remember, they have a vested interest in this,
and do NOT want us to manufacture it too.
They are playing the "Safety" card,
and I respect that part for all people,
this AIN'T a colloidal silver project.
But banning me for telling truth to power
just isn't enough for Aaron.
He has to come here and defend himself too.
He has an extreme financial interest to do so.
I lost respect for him during the spark plug incident,
but even now he doesn't seem willing to do the right thing.
Those are my attachments/posts/private PM's
But I cannot even wash my hands of that biased enviroment !
he'll read this and assert an untruth,
like I took things out of context,
and use explives.
I didn't, he's wrong, period.
I watched GB oppose you politely, and have now watched you
use your administrative power inappropriately to censor people
that do not agree with pure marketing crap put forth !
Just eviscerate all incidence of my existance of me from your forum,
or allow me the right to remove that which I can no longer support.
I gave you a second chance after the spark plug fiasco,
but you managed to do it again a second time (Predictably ?)...
Admin censorship is not a good-ole boys club tool.
Good luck to both you and peter selling water,
thats just what the people of planet earth need,
charging for friggin water !
Seriously ?
Stephan, I do respect Aaron on other topics,
he has a darn fair handle on a number of things.
But this "WATER" with balanced sustained
positive and negative "SPECIES" require more
clarification than he is willing to reciprocate
prior to sale of a completely unknown product.
He will indicate many people and sports figures
that he says endorse this product so far.
Some pan out on Google, some don't.
There is a fair and strong possibility it is real.
But you get friggin banned if you push for asnwers.
Thats crap...
Worst part is that this might be real stuff,
but market practices drove people away.
Oh, and good reply Gravity Block,
equipment to do this is already on
the open market to buy and use...
citfta:
GB,
I am not surprised you were banned. I have been a member of EF for a little over 3 years and every time someone expresses a view contrary to Aaron's they get banned. He claims to be spiritually enlightened but he will ban you very quickly if you oppose his views. Thank you for showing there is an alternative.
I read the patent and except for the expensive electrodes needed I don't see any reason a competent person with some good engineering skills couldn't make their own redox generator. The temperature control part is a piece of cake for anyone with a basic understanding of HVAC equipment. The electronic side is also very simple. The expensive electrodes and an accurate way to analyze what you produce are the only drawbacks I see to producing your own redox.
So I guess now I am wondering why they are charging so much for a couple of bottles of this stuff when it is so easy to make. The patent plainly says they have already established the parameters for making the redox with just the right combination of chemicals they want. They start out with salt water and only run it through this one process for some given amount of time. It is not like this takes millions of dollars worth of equipment or many steps of the process.
I will be watching this thread closely to see if there is a way to do this for a reasonable price. Thanks again for starting this thread.
Carroll
CompuTutor:
Exactly cifta, the same thing happens in pharmaceuticals,
they charge for the development in the price of the product,
instead of eating that and putting out a cheap aspirin pill.
If they charged for the price of the water, the electricity,
the workers salery, and any consumed catalyst materials,
it would be about $3 to $4 a bottle instead.
That would be $6 to $8,
because the minimum sale is TWO bottles !
Toranado may have said it best:
"The rich and wealthy will stay healthy and the poor will die.
This is the one big crime I can see coming from this stuff.
Its already too expensive for some.
Your health should not be controlled by your economic position.
Then what?
How do I get more?
How do Fund my need to stay healthy.
You become a distributor,
just as any drug dealer does to support his habit"
CompuTutor:
Wow, that was venting, heheh.
Sorry all...
I find it amazing how much information is out there about something I was not even aware of the existance of.
I'm trying to collect a select group of writings and links for an archive for all to read and better understand
what the processes are and some speculative theories as to why it has such a profound effect on human cells.
It really is fascinating.
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