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Title: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on July 30, 2011, 02:22:16 PM
Well, as T.Bearden says, potential is the only thing needed to power loads.
Most people believe that power is needed if you want to run any kind of electronic device. But, as you know, electromagnetic waves are composed of 2 potential waves, that means we can create amperage from E-Field only.

So, the first I'm going to do is trying to build a circuit capable of lighting an incandescent bulb for a small periods of time. The circuit is base in AV plug, but modified. Instead of using the classic 1 to 2 wire rectifier, I'm going to use other different that I tested it can produce power.
With some small rectifiers I can charge them all, and them connect them in series to reach 220 Volts and power the bulb.
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on July 30, 2011, 04:05:14 PM
    @ Magnethos:
    Thank you for starting this thread.  I hope that you can show how running on voltage only can be done.  I have heard about this for a while now, but have not seen any examples of it.
                                                                NickZ
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on July 30, 2011, 11:39:03 PM
Thanks NickZ,
Basically is an AV plug, but the part that transforms 1-wire to 2-wire is another different. If you put 5 or 6 'rectifiers' in series, you can get enought voltage to light a bulb. Of course, the electrolytic caps need to be around 220 uF instead of 100 uF. It's possible to light a bulb with 220uF, because I seen it in a video.

If this works (I think this is possible), then it could be proved that using pure E-Field is possible to get B and E Field. You need to charge the caps alone, and then connect the output of the rectifiers in series to get enought voltage to light a 220V bulb. Some modifications of this circuit can be done..
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on July 31, 2011, 12:05:11 AM
 I think that what Bearden was talking about was to use radiant energy to make radiant electricity, and use just voltage to run loads.  Are you thinking of taking power from the grid to convert to potential voltage only, and use that instead of normal electricity to light a bulb?  Do you have the
link to the video that you are mentioning? 
   The point then in this case, is to see if pure voltage can be converted to obtain some current also. That is interesting, especially if you have a source of that voltage to take advantage of, in the first place, and not just power or potential converted from the grid.
   I seen videos also of people lighting a normal bulb with voltage only, and or cold electricity, or magnetic energy to produce electricity that will light bulbs. But, I don't know if they are in any way related or even the same thing.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on July 31, 2011, 02:52:04 PM
Bearden explains that the source of all "free" energy devices is radiant energy. He says that you cannot get power from the vacuum, the only thing you can do is to get radiant energy (cold electricity, displacement current...) from the vacuum and, if you want, transform that energy into power. That means create amperage from pure voltage.

I don't know what video you've seen about lighting a bulb with pure voltage only. A interesting one is the Tesla's Hairpin Circuit. In that test you can light bulbs directly with pure voltage. In the test I'm trying to perform, I want to see that it's possible to light a bulb with electromagnetic waves from a radiant energy source. So I won't light the bulb with pure voltage, I'm going to use pure voltage to transform into ordinary electricity and light the bulb with classic electricity.

The source of pure voltage is the ambient. Replace the ignition coil single wire with an antenna and you'll see how is possible to run loads using power from the ambient. Elevated wire can accomplish the same thing as the ignition coil.

This is the video where the guy lights a bulb from caps for a small period of time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWwFxNZZxc

If not, check the same video Test 1.
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: schuler on July 31, 2011, 04:17:45 PM
 :o interesting  :o

Please keep us informed about your experiments !
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on July 31, 2011, 05:17:26 PM
  I watched both videos that you suggested.  I'll try to find the one that I'm mentioning using just voltage to light a bulb also. 
   The videos that I've see where people are trying to obtain electricity by imitating the Tesla patent that uses a plate in the air, connected to a capacitor, and the other post of the cap to a ground plate, has not given very exiting results. As just tiny amount of power is obtained. The main thing is to have a source of usable radiant voltage to begin with, otherwise I don't see the point, as in the video the bulb is barely lit, nor will that amount of power run anything else other than a dim bulb. But I suppose that it is a start in that direction. But, since grid power was used, I don't see where the real radiant source to power the bulb would come from. Maybe you have a different idea...
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: CompuTutor on August 02, 2011, 07:24:02 AM
Magnethos,
in your above schematic diagram,
where you show the two input caps
connected to the coil's HV out lead.

Replace each single cap with two caps in series,
(For a total of four caps in two series pairs...)
you'll be surprised how much much you get out.

It is a phenomina that occurs
only with two caps in series.

Like the aerial (antenna) sees first here:


Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on August 02, 2011, 01:17:37 PM
@ NickZ
You need to use electromagnetic wave to get radiant energy. Of course, you can get it from the ambient without the needing of any batteries, but usually you have to use a little amount of electromagnetic waves to induce a big amount of radiant energy. You need to remember that electromagnetic wave are composed of radiant energy waves. Almost all the people is trying to amplify electromagnetic waves directly, that is non-sense since amperes are the losses of a circuit and you cannot have gains in a system of losses.
When you break the electromagnetic waves to get pure scalar component, you're basically eliminating amperage, so you have a superconductor at room temperature and you don't have losses, for that reason a lot of OU devices work in cold.
The other thing, and this is the interesting part, is that I haven't seen almost anybody trying to amplify the scalar component. If you know about Don Smith device, it's basically a radiant energy amplifier. You put in the primary of a Tesla Coil radiant energy and you get the same radiant energy amplified in the secondary.
We usually use electromagnetic wave in the primary to get scalar in the secondary.


@ CompuTutor
The values of the components you show in the schematics are the same like the ones I posted before?
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on August 02, 2011, 04:22:44 PM
  If you already have electromagnetic waves, what is the advantage if any of the conversion to radiant electricity. 
  Doesn't lightning have lots of current also.  I've seen it blow a house apart. Can just voltage do that?  I guess that what I'm getting at is,
what advantage is there to scalar or radiant energy when all our systems and appliances are not compatible.  We can't really harvest radiant energy yet to any usable degree,  for household use. The devices that have been used to obtain radiant energy only, don't really work very well, as you mentioned they need electromagnetic waves to function in the first place.
   So, What other LOADS run on just potential waves, beside leds, cfls, or florescent lights?
 
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on August 03, 2011, 12:35:00 AM
Well, the advantage of getting radiant energy from electromagnetism is that you can increase "power" using radiant energy, and you cannot do the same with electromagnetism. In electromagnetics you can amplify voltage or amperes (circuit losses). But you cannot amplify both at the same time directly.

A lot of people is reading and learning about "free" energy, but if you ask about what is radiant energy and/or how to obtain it, a lot of people cannot give you an answer. Radiant energy can be obtained from electromagnetic waves and it can be transformed into electromagnetic waves also. I mean, you can create current from pure voltage.
Just pure voltage cannot blow apart a house, it's like magnetism. But radiant energy can alter matter and time. you cannot turn on your TV using radiant energy. If you want to use radiant energy with common electronics I have to say that it won't work. You need other kind of electronics components and laws to use radiant energy.

Some kind of motors can work also with radiant energy, but you cannot charge a battery or run other kind of devices. I only want in this thread to observe the phenomena involved in the transformation of radiant energy to electromagnetic waves and viceversa.
The main advantage, as I said before, is that with radiant energy you can amplify "power" (I say "power" because radiant energy is ampere-less) so
P = V x 0 ====> 0
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on August 03, 2011, 06:48:52 AM
  Is there an example of what you are mentioning? That radiant energy (pure potential) can be magnified, and that current can be produced out of pure potential voltage.  I have not heard or seen it done. What would be the point, to use normal electricity to produce radiant electricity, that can produce current also?  All forms of energy come from the Aether to begin with, including electromagnetic as well as non-electromagnetic energy.
Wouldn't it be better to tap and harvest the available Aether, and to convert that source to usable everyday power? Or is the round about way to go about it,  because nobody can really do that to any usable degree, yet???
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: Magnethos on August 03, 2011, 10:31:17 AM
NickZ, I don't know what part you don't understand. I have explained it.

As you know all kind of energy comes from the ether, as you've said before. So, electromagnetic or radiant, or inertia or any kind of energy comes from an etheric differentiation.
There are examples that you can amplify radiant energy, the Tesla's magnifier transmitter is an example of it. Well, when you amplify radiant energy you're in the same time getting it from the aether. You can produce current from radiant energy, but that means that you can produce electromagnetic waves from radiant energy. In the moment you have current, you've electromagnetic energy. Remember that radiant is without electron current.
So, the round is about producing radiant energy from electromagnetism to magnify the radiant energy and transform again the radiant to EM.
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: NickZ on August 03, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
  Maybe you can explain the process involved not just in amplifying radiant energy, (Tesla Coil). but how to produce current (or radiant electricity).
 
Title: Re: Running loads with Potential Waves
Post by: forest on August 03, 2011, 10:18:47 PM
Seems that current is taken from ground connection which has to be good.See Kapanadze and Don Smith videos.