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Author Topic: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler  (Read 9066 times)

Offline christo4_99

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My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« on: July 29, 2011, 03:26:45 AM »
seriously I give up on you guys.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 06:31:18 AM by christo4_99 »

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My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2011, 04:40:01 AM »
Recently i have been spurred on to set the record straight on a man that history has treated unfairly to say the least, and that people (who pretend to be friends) still speak of in a derogatory tone even to the point of using the man's own admissions against him ! I say this is like a bunch of females gossiping ! I say build a wheel that turns before you judge the man ! What is it about ignorant people that elevates them to the position of judges all of a sudden ? First: make up your mind as to whether the man was genuine or not ! On one hand if you decide that he wasn't then just build a wheel with a large counterweight and an electric motor in it and you can be just like what  you think that he was ! Second and more difficult : decide that he was genuinely the inventor of the specific kind of device that he laid claim to and that for whatever reason,including all kinds of envious lies and scientific/mathematical hierarchy acting as confident authorities on the subject together with the world's inability to assess the true value of the thing itself and the achievement, never quite delivered it into the hands of the world ! Do not cackle about like a bunch of hens and continue to use the man's own writings against him.
 Just think for a minute that having the invention from the beginning and somehow being unaware of the consequences at hand and the controversy that would incur is what started the whole ball rolling ! If you can do this IMHO then you are on the right track. So my plan is to reproduce the wheel and the principle and in doing so vindicate the man also giving the world yet another chance to appreciate the accomplishment for what it was and perhaps to get credit to a man that potentially has already made a bigger contribution to the welfare of the planet than anyone to date.
 Up until recently my ideas have been leading me to something just out of reach . As of today things are much more vivid !
So as i am closer to my goal and I can now speak with more authority and intervene where i think the world has gone wrong with the subject . If a man offers his head as a guarantee of his wares then it is a good idea to take him up on it !

good luck but you're wasting your time here with bessler.

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2011, 11:42:29 AM »
seriously I give up on you guys.
What do you want christo ? You want us to say you're great ? For sure you are. I don't care as long as you don't show anything. Words alone didn't build a world.

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Offline christo4_99

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 06:37:33 PM »
I realized last night that we all watch television and we don't praise the man that invented the television , or we use light bulbs and we don't praise the man that invented them . It's all so sad . Bessler gets more consideration as a potential fraud than he would if his device was in the world . Perpetual Motion is still a mystery thanks to Bessler . He handled it very well in my opinion . We have so much yet we thank no one for it . The world is Godless and taken for granted . Bessler's heartfelt dilemma was nothing less than holding a secret of insurmountable consequence and trying to deliver it into a world that has no appreciation for it's creator , a world bored and spoiled with selfish pursuits ... like so many fat horses wandering aimlessly . Tell me how I am wrong ? Bessler said his oath should be ," wish for others what you wish for yourself ." so world here's what i wish for you : i wish for your hearts to be filled with wonder for this creation that we have inherited and that you should open your eyes to the gift that has been given you as surely as you live . i wish that you would wake from your sleep and live up to your potential greatness each and every one . i wish that you would invent the thing yourselves and in so doing realize that it is a gift that you should be thankful for , and if it turns out that the gift is perpetual then your thanks should also be perpetual ." So now that it is out there can you live up to your end of what i wish for you ?
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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2011, 08:35:30 PM »
 When i was 17 years old I made a discovery that could have changed my life if it had not been seen before or heard, as it were. This Perpetual Motion pursuit of mine cannot change what happened to me as a child , but in it I found a potential to have something , if i could in fact achieve it ,of my very own , to be shared , as it were , with only one other person who,also , because he is long gone from this world, cannot speak any longer for himself . I feel a certain responsibility to promote the art the way that Bessler promoted it . What he wanted and in fact sometimes received was that some of the people who witnessed it began to believe in miracles and such and their hearts were lightened as a result .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZc3EsElqeA

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Offline penno64

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2011, 11:59:20 PM »
Hi Christo,

Do you really have something you would like to share?

Do not be afraid - let it out.

You should understand, many are watching - not many are responding.

Kindest Regards, Penno

p.s. It would be a monumental day, if one could vindicate the genius of that man!

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2011, 12:52:13 AM »

Hi Ou dot com crowd(?),

Perpetual motion is impossible. OK
Bessler was a bl' f' fraud. OK.
OK, right from a very reduced point of view.

Just change the rules of the game while playing this very game and use the time (tempo)...
The rules of the game, for ex:
The geometry of the device: see Alexander Frolov.
The tempo: see Claus Turtur.
The inductance or capacitance of some part of the circuit: see mainstream equations.

Just play with some maths and assume that each part of the product can vary.
Force = d(m.v)/dt and not only Force= m*dv/dt = m * acceleration because m is 'perpetually' and very swiftly changing.

For this very equation please see:
Ove Tedenstig : http://www.newphys.se/teden/Tedenstig/
And  Ronald D. Pearson
For ex: http://www.worlditc.org/f_19_pearson_afterlife_quantum.htm

Also:
Voltage= d(l*i)/dt. l can vary. (Steorn?)
Intensity= d(c.v)/dt. c can vary.(Testatika?)

NO! I have not achieved any 'OU', because:
I have not the Mojo.
I'm too lazy.
I'm stupid.

Anyway : please Christo4_99 d'ont give up.

Very Best

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Offline MrMag

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2011, 01:18:21 AM »
the people who witnessed it began to believe in miracles and such and their hearts were lightened as a result .

Please enlighten me :)

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2011, 03:57:08 AM »
 Enlighten yourself ! I will with some more time produce the motion but for now i am begging you all to just get excited about it. Here is a quote from Bessler that will make the matter clear: "Do you see? These foolish ravings of my enemies will be held up to total ridicule by all intelligent people, who,with true understanding,have sought the Mobile in a place no different from that in which I eventually found it. Let the envious soul first describe to us what he thinks a true Mobile should be, what sort of device one should give that name to, and what he would be prepared to give for one - or let him actually produce one - and then we can judge the matter. In the meantime my machine will be called the PRIMUM, and it will also be called Perpetuum. The enemy in his madness can call it what he likes - my machine is the selfsame device that my enemies were unable to achieve. Enemy, come to terms with it, and prescribe in written legislation, if you wish, how my machine should be termed, and how I should be rewarded for it."

Anyone can be a critic , anyone can judge , no one even today can reproduce the man's demonstrations with the materials he had access to at the time . This will be my last post until I have the thing up and running . I have attempted to give a notice . Prepare for the truth ! Prepare to give thanks ! Prepare !

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 02:49:12 AM »
Hi Christo,

Do you really have something you would like to share?

Do not be afraid - let it out.

You should understand, many are watching - not many are responding.

Kindest Regards, Penno

p.s. It would be a monumental day, if one could vindicate the genius of that man!
I had not seen this post before...sorry i missed it . This is the type of response I am looking for in the spirit of truth and the recognition that the subject deserves !
 Just think that if you have the same response to every claim of this type that sooner or later the man that is to deliver this comes along and you are heckling him also . Imagine that ! I really don't mind the opposition I have received ... although bittersweet it has been very motivating . But I've reached a point where it is no longer necessary . Many of you may think that you will see this type of thing first in a newspaper or see it on television if it fact it ever happens . Do you smell the coffee ?

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 04:27:27 PM »
The biggest problem with some people is.

"I think, there for I am!"
 
 Then they go into some form of philosophy. Mincing words that may show arrogance in a manner of superiority.

The best answer is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InaRIYFPMiY 

So those who are doing this to get attention. At least show you do know something besides word games.

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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 09:32:58 PM »
 I have to give you this : that clip from top gun illustrates the situation very well . a man of superior ability is being heckled by one of lesser ability. Thank you ! Point taken .
the biggest problem with some people is they think they know what the biggest problem with some people is ... or much of anything for that matter . AB, are you on the verge of anything ? You claim to have all kinds of " working principles " . You speak as though you are an expert in something or other . What is your Grand View ? Who would you thank for the gift if you had received it ? I'll tell you who ...nobody . Bulletin : perpetual motion has already been achieved ! Why don't you tell us what Bessler did since you know so much ? You must know in all your experience . Please tell us the secret of the wheel or the ingenious devices that you have .


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Re: My Plan to Vindicate Bessler
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 10:32:58 PM »
Please tell us the secret of the wheel or the ingenious devices that you have .
Be my guest and do it first ;] Man stop spamming.

 

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