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Title: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 26, 2011, 09:13:51 PM

 I would like to open this discussion because I think there are a great many confusing topics about the Aether and what it really is. So here it goes.

 What we do know about the beginnings of our space is very limited but I would like to call your attention to what resides inside our own galaxies center. Very massive Black holes. In fact Black holes are the very things that give our galaxy it's motion and direction. So it doesn't take a very smart man to start to put together that in fact we live in an enclosed space. It makes sense that the most powerful effect in our galaxy is the Black hole and that we are merely in a much larger version of that effect. Lets say that the Big Bang was actually an expansion of our space from a defect in the black holes mass. The defect happen because the Black hole got much bigger then the black hole could restrain. Millions and billions of miles of thickness shielded the defect area in the center of this almighty Black hole and it formed a very very thin defect layer within this area of shielding. This layer formed as the pressure dropped from the outside layers of this Ultimate black hole and allowed a relatively thin layer of crystalline material to form from the matter that was being slowly uncompressed.

 When the matter inside this Black hole finally began to sponge out it ripped and explosively flew apart, seeing that a Black hole is a mono polar entity when two like poles are put in proximity to each other they push apart. This is the same process. This ripping apart caused the relatively thin layer or crystalline material to detonate in the smallest particles know to the universe. It not only released these finer then fine crystals but also released the matter that was collected around the defect. That is where our matter comes from in our universe. It is what was left from this event. Also this expansion of our space caused a great vacuum to form as well and the finer then fine crystals spread out uniformly in the space that was created. It took quite some time for these crystals to collect and form charges.

 Charges are actually larger sized crystals then the medium we call the aether or the finer then fine crystals. The finer then fine crystals are the smallest density measurement we could make in the universe. It is the medium of the Aether. Charges are swirls that were left when this space was made. Like I said before they are fine in detail and much larger then the medium itself. So a single part of these charges bring conduction to the table over two points of the medium it floats in. When these parts organize and collect collect I like to call them charges. These charges are looped strings of the parts and they tend to look like a ball of worms. The mere fact that they conduct potential of the background or Aethric medium gives them some ability to cling to each other with the biggest pieces always being internal. A charge has potential because it is always in motion and that motion generates the cling. The motion was given to them to conduct from the very instant that this space began.

 Why does our space appear flat then? Space looks like it is flat in the same method that they thought that the world was flat at one point in our history but in fact space is circular. we live in a bubble of sorts but that bubble is bazillions of light years across. With the edges bending in great arcs back to the point of origin.

 Now back to charges. Charges or motion energy are self contained units of charge. They are what is inside every particle know to man. They bind the matter that was left over from the great unzipping of our space by pure motion of larger bits of Aether that creates an oscillation inside the particle. The frequency of the matter is based on the size of matter that was attracted to this oscillation and the potential it provides from the motion in the Aether. This potential is by no means static. It can be changed and effected but in the beginning there was not much effecting a change till this started to attract matter to the eddies of the larger Aetheric particles. So that is what we can see so far with our eyes on the matter scale. What we can not see is what goes on in between matter and that is the aethric medium.

 This process took quite some time and I suspect it is still going on closer to the edges of this bubble we live in. As this bubble is still expanding. We can tell it is still expanding because that is what we observe Black holes doing. So somewhere out there is the edge of the bubble expanding because our Ultimate Black hole is still collecting matter and growing somewhere outside of this black hole. It is the very reason we see an acceleration of our galaxy and universe for that matter.

 Let me know what you guys think so far. If you have questions then maybe I can help you find the answer. I don't know it all but this is what I can piece together from all the known sources of esoteric research out there.

 Jbignes5
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on July 26, 2011, 10:13:31 PM
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 1:1
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on July 26, 2011, 10:22:20 PM
"There manifests itself in the fully developed being , Man, a desire mysterious, inscrutable and irresistible: to imitate nature, to create, to work himself the wonders he perceives.... Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance."
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 27, 2011, 03:33:19 AM
 "I think therefore I am."

 I don't like religious connotation. I think it is all something that has been done a very long time ago and someone was taking credit for it. Case in point the Sumerian people have had stolen a great many tales and it was claimed by a religious body. A Lot of the stories and writing from the Sumerians were plagiarizer and called someone else's ideas and events.

 But The second is a good focus onto where this has been said before. Funny how that happens. Really I had no idea that was there. In all my research I have not seen that particular quote. Nice.

 So it is not a new concept then and it could back this vista from which I am looking into.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 27, 2011, 05:36:00 AM
God doesn't stick his or her chest out around here, do you know why, 'it' doesn't exist. only humans fulfill there mental image of a god beating his or her chest, sound familiar. some make those actions seem like they are purely spiritual in every way possible, I call this a major mental illness. it is sickening.

leave your damn god out of sciences and physics period.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on July 27, 2011, 09:24:09 AM
In the beginning was the Prana (living force), and the Prana was with Akasha, and the Prana was Creative Force...  ;D
In the begining there was Sound, and Sound was with Ether and Sound created matter...
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on July 27, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
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Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: IotaYodi on July 27, 2011, 04:53:23 PM
Lets go back in time before the big bang.
Where did the mass,primordial soup,sound,or any other name you put on it come from? Until that question is answered correctly you can neither prove or disprove the existence of god.
Then there is the question of whether there is more than one universe.

Just a thought. Take a look at how a drill bit works. The forward cw rotation doesn't change but the materiel is tunneled out in the opposite direction and its cw & ccw. A vortex.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: cosmoLV on July 27, 2011, 05:24:33 PM
Tesla about eather write in this way, find in Lost Tesla notes: http://umbrellatech.lv/downloads-3/index.php
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 27, 2011, 06:56:55 PM
Lets go back in time before the big bang.
Where did the mass,primordial soup,sound,or any other name you put on it come from? Until that question is answered correctly you can neither prove or disprove the existence of god.
Then there is the question of whether there is more than one universe.

Just a thought. Take a look at how a drill bit works. The forward cw rotation doesn't change but the materiel is tunneled out in the opposite direction and its cw & ccw. A vortex.

 Excellent question here. I told you where this matter came from in my first post. It came from the Black hole that we are situated in. The matter of our universe was collected and deposited inside of an Ultimate sized black hole. We know this because right now that is what these mini black holes are doing. They collect matter because the charges within matter are attracted to the huge potential inside of a black hole.

 What I suspect is going on inside of a black hole is that matter is crushed to the ultimate dimensions that space allows. When this happens an ultimate crystal is born. We know this process works because this is how we create diamonds. But this crystal is the perfect crystal and is oriented in a unipolar shape. What I suspect is a pyramidal shape. This allows the Black hole to continue to strip energy from matter and eject the energy through the crystal leaving only matter to be further crushed. When it is crushed it grows the crystal allowing it to channel further matter to the largest end of the pyramid.

 Our space was created by this Black hole because for some reason an inclusion was formed in the crystal and when enough energy or charges was passed through this inclusion it shattered the crystal. It could have been because the matter at that point overwhelmed the crystal and enveloped it trapping the charges inside of the crystal. This is where the energy came from to create our space. When the shattering happened it created the finest particles one could think of and many many many different sizes of crystals. This event expanded the matter enveloping the black hole and our space was born. What is left is a very very fine pool of shards that are perfect energy transmitters. <-Superconductors...

 Now we can tell that upon the shattering of this perfect transmitter crystal that all sizes of crystals were made because that is what happens when you actually shatter a crystal in our scale. With the largest crystals forming black holes in our space and lesser sized crystals forming stars and planets by attracting energy or charges to them which also attracts matter to their potential.

 Does that answer any questions you might happen to have?

 Jbignes5
 
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: wattsup on July 27, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
In order to continue with OU research and the fact that ether is the main subset of all, I had to answer this question for myself and for my own perspective of energy production, etc. I have put a doc here that explains my views on this as, yes, if you can grow your perspective, you can widen your vision of how things work. For me, and, I reiterate, FOR ME, this has given me a new way of looking at the EE question and has solved many of the "unanswerable" questions I had with standard EE and to which EEers always have problems to try and answer or just change the subject. Anyways, it may help you see a new angle and even make your own.

It is located here so just click on the pdf file name at the bottom of that post.
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0

wattsup
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 27, 2011, 07:19:57 PM

 Where do crystals get their ability to form from. We know that crystals need seeds to form and grow from. Well this is the process that everything that we see is getting this geometry from. All crystals need a seed. This seed comes from the super fine shards that were created in the "Big Bang". This is where nature gets its ability to show geometric symmetry. The Fibonacci  sequence comes from this symmetry of the super fine crystals. Everything in nature including water shows this symmetry when it phase changes. The phase change locks in the symmetry from the lowest levels of matter because that is what it is floating in and when the phase change occurs it is because we are letting or drawing charges out of matter. The charges add fluidity to matter. It is much Like the grease of the universe. When you take enough charges out of matter it becomes rigid and non bending. This process is exactly what ice is and the physical hardness of water is actually condensed crystals<-the super fine kind, the real matter of the universe. The purest transmitters ever known to man. The original super conductors. The ID of god as some would put it. The Aether condensed.

 Jbignes5
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 28, 2011, 05:04:28 PM
 Just some facts that led me to this revelation.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/universe20110722.html <Water in space surrounding a quasar or black hole.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/H-11-248.html  <Black holes and their behavior on matter.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1008_031008_finiteuniverse.html <The shape of our universe.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html <Bubbles above and below our galaxies plane<Black Hole?
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: sm0ky2 on July 28, 2011, 08:27:49 PM
black holes are not mass, but rather the absence of mass.

all throughout space, is not a true vacuum. It is littered with particles, dust, gasses..
It is extremely low low pressure, compared to our atmosphere, but not a vacuum.

in the center of a large collection of mass, such as a galaxy, or in instances - gravitational focal points in the areas between galaxies.. all of the matter in that point in space is pulled outwards by gravitational forces. This creates a true vacuum, proportional to the gravitational force. a "negative mass". The eather itself is stretched outward creating a litteral void in space.

From a gravitational analysys, the inward force created by the void, is identicle to a gravitational force created by a mass.

The galactic mass pulls at the edges of the black hole, as it attempts to collapse in on itself. In this boundary region, where the vacuum is collapsing, matter is condensed, heating up, colliding, stars are ripped apart, and recombined to form into new stars. Sometimes these stars have enough velocity to leave the black hole, and begin a journey towards the outer limbs of the galaxy. Particles and gasses smash together with unimaginable forces, and can force massive jets of matter and energy out of the black hole and out into space.

a good analogy would be the inverse of cavitation. (voiditation?)

inconsistencies in galactic motion begin to dissapear with the inclusion of "invisible mass", or "dark matter". This is an assumption of mass we cannot see, having an effect on the motion of bodies (and sometimes light) in space.

I propose that it is these "voids", these gravitational focal points between galaxies or groups of galaxies are instead, creating a 'true vacuum' in space, and pulling on the masses.

Mathematically, my proposal agrees precisely to many dark matter/dark energy theories. The difference being lack of mass, rather than mass we cannot see. This is represented as negative mass value, via a conversion of the force of the galactic bodies on the mean-mass-volme of empty space, i.e. - the energy of the black hole vacuum in relation to the reative gravitational force of the mass causing it.

Anyone notice something about the last 7-8 yrs of black hole theories?
You dont hear a lot about the "event horizon" do you?
  Why?  - because they now know that the original assumptions made about black holes are simply not true. Light doesnt get "trapped by gravitational forces" inside the black hole.
Light cannot propegate inside a true vacuum.
Light "is" light because of the particle's interaction with the eather as is propegates. When there is a void of aether, a vacuum in space, the photon is no longer "light".

This evident by the fact that nearly every black hole that we examine, has protrusions of light, and slower than light particles perpendicular to the gravitational vector of the galactic body on the black hole.

Furthermore, examining the velocity and trajectories of these protrusions, we find that the dominant gravitational force, pulling the protrusions back towards the galactic center, are vectored towards the BOUNDARY, NOT the center of the black hole. 9note the bubble-like structure discovered by FERMI in our own milkyway)
    This is key to understanding that black holes are not mass, but the lack thereof. The aether is pulled out of the black hole by the gravitational forces of the galactic body. This vacum is what holds the galaxy together.
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Think about this- If the black hole has a mass of 0
   Then where is the center of gravity of the galaxy?
  its not in the center - but in a ring slightly out from the center.

and examining this from the center of a black hole,....
     In which direction is the force of gravity caused by the entire mass of the galaxy??

      you got it...  OUTWARDS.

And the force caused by that much mass is enough to stretch the fabric of the aether itself creating the black hole void.









Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 29, 2011, 01:40:16 AM
black holes are not mass, but rather the absence of mass.

all throughout space, is not a true vacuum. It is littered with particles, dust, gasses..
It is extremely low low pressure, compared to our atmosphere, but not a vacuum.

in the center of a large collection of mass, such as a galaxy, or in instances - gravitational focal points in the areas between galaxies.. all of the matter in that point in space is pulled outwards by gravitational forces. This creates a true vacuum, proportional to the gravitational force. a "negative mass". The eather itself is stretched outward creating a litteral void in space.

From a gravitational analysys, the inward force created by the void, is identicle to a gravitational force created by a mass.

The galactic mass pulls at the edges of the black hole, as it attempts to collapse in on itself. In this boundary region, where the vacuum is collapsing, matter is condensed, heating up, colliding, stars are ripped apart, and recombined to form into new stars. Sometimes these stars have enough velocity to leave the black hole, and begin a journey towards the outer limbs of the galaxy. Particles and gasses smash together with unimaginable forces, and can force massive jets of matter and energy out of the black hole and out into space.

a good analogy would be the inverse of cavitation. (voiditation?)

inconsistencies in galactic motion begin to dissapear with the inclusion of "invisible mass", or "dark matter". This is an assumption of mass we cannot see, having an effect on the motion of bodies (and sometimes light) in space.

I propose that it is these "voids", these gravitational focal points between galaxies or groups of galaxies are instead, creating a 'true vacuum' in space, and pulling on the masses.

Mathematically, my proposal agrees precisely to many dark matter/dark energy theories. The difference being lack of mass, rather than mass we cannot see. This is represented as negative mass value, via a conversion of the force of the galactic bodies on the mean-mass-volme of empty space, i.e. - the energy of the black hole vacuum in relation to the reative gravitational force of the mass causing it.

Anyone notice something about the last 7-8 yrs of black hole theories?
You dont hear a lot about the "event horizon" do you?
  Why?  - because they now know that the original assumptions made about black holes are simply not true. Light doesnt get "trapped by gravitational forces" inside the black hole.
Light cannot propegate inside a true vacuum.
Light "is" light because of the particle's interaction with the eather as is propegates. When there is a void of aether, a vacuum in space, the photon is no longer "light".

This evident by the fact that nearly every black hole that we examine, has protrusions of light, and slower than light particles perpendicular to the gravitational vector of the galactic body on the black hole.

Furthermore, examining the velocity and trajectories of these protrusions, we find that the dominant gravitational force, pulling the protrusions back towards the galactic center, are vectored towards the BOUNDARY, NOT the center of the black hole. 9note the bubble-like structure discovered by FERMI in our own milkyway)
    This is key to understanding that black holes are not mass, but the lack thereof. The aether is pulled out of the black hole by the gravitational forces of the galactic body. This vacum is what holds the galaxy together.
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Think about this- If the black hole has a mass of 0
   Then where is the center of gravity of the galaxy?
  its not in the center - but in a ring slightly out from the center.

and examining this from the center of a black hole,....
     In which direction is the force of gravity caused by the entire mass of the galaxy??

      you got it...  OUTWARDS.

And the force caused by that much mass is enough to stretch the fabric of the aether itself creating the black hole void.

 I can not agree with you on this. You say that black holes are not matter yet that is what they consume. You double talk right there. Light does get eaten along with many many other things because what is inside the black hole is an energy gun of sorts. This gun is actually a crystal with the shape of a pyramid. Why do I say that. Well because that is a crystalline shape. By virtue of the shape the crystal accelerates the energy it consumes through it's own structure. How do I know this? Well have you ever played with an electric lighter. That snap you hear is a small hammer like device striking the crystalline structure and what charges are in the structure are pumped out of the crystal. This is merely a physical event and what I propose is that the crystal inside of the Black hole is in fact being struck by the matter it is consuming. It hits the base of the pyramidal crystal a: causing charges to be pumped out of the crystal and sucking the now crushed matters charges into the crystal to replace what was pumped out previously. In that process a great amount of heat (creation of new layers of crystal) and other phenomena happens like radiations that squirt out in 90 degree angles.
 If light could not propagate in a vacuum then how does it travel from galaxy to galaxy. Of course it propagates or else we could not see outside of our planets atmosphere. Heck how could we see if we create a vacuum in a tube then?. The vacuum is space where nothing is. it is so very small in space that we could never see it but in huge quantities it adds up. I am talking much smaller then regular atoms or particles. These shards of whats inside of a Black hole are so fine that we could never see them. They are what causes light to propagate in the first place and it is what lets any force that exists known to man to propagate even in space. Electrical impulses can even get transferred because they are superconductors as well being shards of the most perfect crystal known to the Universe.
 If as you say that matter and light are not effected then how does a Black hole grow then? It gains mass much like anything else in this universe. Think of it like this. Whats inside is a channel. The most perfect channel for energy. It attracts the charges in all things including light because as we all know a magnet works in the same way. Space is fluidic in nature and a flow starts through the channel. But the channel only lets charges through and not the matter. That gets deposited on the big end of the crystal because that end has more surface area then the tip. This is also the reason it accelerates the charges through itself because when it deposits it whacks the big end and pumps the crystal. Much like a water hose when you have a narrowing of the nozzle a great force is created and an acceleration of the charges occurs. Also in the process of whacking the big end it smashes the matter and the charges are then sucked into the crystal and accelerated out the tip. This crushing also builds more crystal because of the huge pressure of matter suddenly stopping along with heat that changes the phase of the matter. The crystal grows from the base as this new matter is deposited.

 One other thing I would love to hear is what is gravity? Obviously you know but yet the best scientists refrain from answering that question.

 I would suggest that gravity is just the Aether moving twords channels or black holes. Yes that means inside our own planet is a crystal or better yet a set of crystals. We know a positive charge will attract other positive charges to it if it is bigger then what it is attracting. This is what is happening in our planet. There is a huge potential inside there and it is sucking in charges from all around our planet. It is what binds our atmosphere to our planet and nothing else. it is this flow of charges that gives us "Gravity" and it is only associated with matter.

 If you cared to look at the pictures and links I provided and then looked at the previous post about the vortex you could actually see the diagram being seen in nature. The two ends of the bubbles or even the twin jets comming from the center of the water mass in the quasar one shows you that there is an in and an out. Thats one thing that those pictures can not tell you on the first look. But if you look close enough the density changes between the two jets should tell you one is going in and one is going out. The water mass is a ring around the focal pint of the quasar and is a dead area where the quasar doesn't effect much. The water is actually ice or condensed crystals and I already told you that, that is merely a higher density of the Aether itself. It is there because the charges were stripped of the matter and the carriers(Aether) are left with no charges so they collect there and slowly gain charges through osmosis.

 If you have not put it together yet Aether is water without the grease (charges) and we are sitting on a whole bunch of it my friend because they where also stripped of the charges as they entered this planet. This takes eons to collect and our world is very very old. When the Aether gains charges again it condenses into water but of a lower charge value then when it came to us. Obviously it is not in the form of water. As the Aether gains charges it changes phase and that changes the form of the Aether into a gas then plasma. This goes both ways. Aether is in everything but it is most apparent in the form of water.

 Even the sun produces water. Can you see where this is going? The sun is merely hollow with a crystal or crystals in its center. Most of the research on the sun is now pointing in that direction now. whats collected around the sun is merely matter that was attracted to the very large potential inside and is literally burning the matter up slowly and changing from phase to phase. But as we have seen from watching the sun it is clear that a lot of matter is being consumed and recycled around this potential and is feeding the channel it holds inside.

 Lets see if that helps you to see the light..

 Jbignes5

 P.S. The only reason the universe is getting bigger is because the bubble we are in is getting bigger and that is because the Black holes material is getting bigger to. This is because of our space and because it is now pulling itself further and further out making our bubble bigger and bigger. I think this is because at some point in a Black holes life it gets way to big and the matter starts to collect around the black hole and eventually gets clogged and forms a crust. At some point physics can't account for the scale that we are talking about and it breaks down to a new physics where it has to have additional scale rules to be applied. Much like the way we have tried to deal with the super small and quantum worlds. The physics we know is only what we have observed it is not the true physics and the universe proves that because we are still being amazed at the things we are finding and how much it baffles our brightest minds when they do find it different then what they expected.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 29, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
 So what does a shard of this crystal look like and how does it work?

 I am thinking these shards look like the same shape as the original just very very small. For lack of a decent drawing program I will use this |> as a side view of the crystal shards.

*|> *|> *|> *|>   This is a string of shards with charges in tow.

 By virtue of it's shape the shards get their ability to move in space. The shards are the Third biggest sub particles in the universe with the smallest being the medium it floats in. The * is actually organized sub set of the third being the second largest. This second set behaves in the same manner as the third but are not as mobile so they organize into stringed loops and sorta look like a ball of worms always in motion. These are the charges and the third size are the charges vehicle.

 |> This part has some pretty amazing properties. Since it is the biggest part in the energy portion of this discussion it is what gives "energy" it's ability to move from point to point. These vehicles are the same as the much larger ones (Black Holes(Huge) or even matter(small)) in their properties. They are potential amplifiers. The surface area at the base is much larger then the surface area at the tip and through this action it raises the potential value and gives the tip much higher potential value from a reference point. Meaning it hasn't passed any charges yet. this is what causes the medium to flow twords the vehicle and cause small gentle hits along the vehicles sides. Just like in statics this creates more potential and gives the vehicle the ability to move when other vehicles are close. Once they line up it is easy to see where force comes from on our macro scale.

 Not only do they pass electrical or static energy they have the ability to pass light as well for free since the vehicles are crystals. Light is merely charges in motion at a certain speed. But that motion is usually only one hop of the vehicle which works much like dominoes. Where as current is continuous flow of charges.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on July 29, 2011, 02:58:55 PM
Regardless of all the arguements about gravity, try this one:

Black holes are regions in space where polarity seize to exist.  Ponder that for a little while.

If by some or other mechanism - Polarity is cancelled, what will remain?
Now, if you do have a spot in space where there is no polarity, that can also be seen as absolute vacuum.
As such the vacuum will suck matter into it - or rather to be correct - Matter will be pushed into it.

When such matter enters the region, all movement down to sub-atomic level seizes, that causes all polarity to seize;
light will seize - so you will remain with an substance that does not have polarity, energy, light or mass. 
A substance that must exist, but can't be measured or observed; but it will stil have an infinite potential of energy,
if / when it can be polarized.

Would that not qualify as Aether?

PS: By polarity I mean that of electrical (+ and -) as well as magnetic (N + S)
In this theory of mine, the elecrical charge is the first polarity to come into existence, that later creates Magnetism.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 29, 2011, 03:35:32 PM
 I am glad you are coming to this discussion. I greatly respect you and your theories.

 So yes that could be one explanation but yet why do we see a direction then in the event horizon. That direction would seem to point twords a polarity.

 I would like to mention Polarity a bit as well. To me and my views, this polarity is just a flow direction with only one valus assigned to it, +.  We all know our experiments with Tesla and his unique understanding of the universe and flows. He learned a lot from working with fluids and it shows in his work. When Tesla realized that the Aether was merely one charge value in a medium he figured out that he could effect(wave) the medium with only one polarity, really it is only one polarity. Because if it wasn't he wouldn't have been able to do what he did and he couldn't have used one wire to transfer energy to a device.

 Lets take the Tesla switch as an example. I believe Tesla did in fact make this device and it seems it was merely a proof to himself that you can run devices on just one polarity but with a difference of values of that one polarity. This allows a flow to happen and a direction to that flow making it compatible with our two wire devices. It is proof that there is no other value then positive and neutral (the absence of positive or vacuum, which in my opinion is the conductors or vehicles and the spacing of charges in those conductors). Lets say a string of the conductors spanning several miles with no charges is a vacuum. When something touches that conductor the charges within the object start to get sucked out and travel down the line twords the highest potential of that line. Although the object never could go down below it's base charge value it would seem to us to be dead and frozen. All of the universe is the same potential then but at differing potential values with the base value seeming to be inert. This is also where nature gets it's balancing from. Because when an object go to the ambient charge level it can go no further or it would be compensated by the environment to attain the ambient level.

 If we understand this concept we can start to see how matter can seem to run forever. Matter in itself at the scale I'm talking about are merely flakes of matter that is attracted or sucked twords the charges. When the flakes envelop the charges it creates a barrier and creates a positive in that bottle. But it is not a perfect bottle and it has opening in between the flakes. This is what causes the suction. This event also oscillates as the flakes open and close like flaps giving matter a frequency. The frequency is controlled by the amount of charge inside of the particle and the size of the flakes surrounding that charge. This is also what gives particles their spin. As we are finding out the particles or atoms at that point also have standing waves in the form of shells. This we have take in error to be the electron but we have taken step to correct that error and are now calling them electron shells or clouds. The reason we could never find the electron spinning around the particle or atom is because it is a standing wave in the medium of the Aether and is created by the frequency of the particles flakes pulsing in and out.

 This is how I see this operating with no consumption on the micro based world. It has been influenced by my observations and based on some of the observations of others as well. Some of this has also come from what I see in my head. Where it comes from I don't know but it feels right.

 One of the observations of this standing wave and it's forms are the Cymatic experiments. If one took that example and made it work in 3d with no "gravity" then you would see that it resembles the atom perfectly.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on July 30, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
Ehmm.. what is that thing called  "charge" ?
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 30, 2011, 05:11:36 PM
 Another excellent question!

 A charge is merely the Aetheric conductors with binding smaller charges in between the conductors. The conductors are crystal shards much larger then the medium of fine conductors. This enables them to conduct across much larger spans of the medium. Much like how a needle can float on water and turn twords a magnetic field so does these conductors. The charges are merely smaller versions of the larger conductors with a smaller sub set of charges in between them. At some point the medium itself is all the same density of very very fine crystal conductors with the void of space in between them. But that is the ultimate dimension as far as we are considered.

 So back to that charges.

 Remember my explanation of the shape of these conductors? Well they would look like this:

 *|> *|> *|> *|> *|> *

 The * is charge sitting at the base of these shards. The shards themselves by virtue of it's shape concentrate the potential of the charge from behind. This gives the shard a bigger potential at the tip. This is proved by Tesla's experiments with conical shaped coils. It's the same effect. So this amplification of the potential of the base charge binds it to the charge in front of it by virtue of a difference in potential. The tip has a higher potential and this holds it to the next base charge. This is a string or line of force. A charge is a string in the form of a loop. The charge also at some point folds and look like a mass of worms. Constantly writhing and in constant motion and is held to the base of the conductor because of the shielding it provides from the medium it floats in. So the conductor is also the vehicle for the charge and it moves simply by the higher potential at the tip attracting small little tendrils that conduct that high potential and are in constant search for other potentials to connect to that are lower or higher then their own potential at the tip.

 We must at some point understand that the medium of the Aether is in some kind of 3d grid network. Where there is little charges in between these lines they become bridges to charges where ever they may be. Even spanning light years or million of light years. Where there is little charges we can expect what we call the vacuum. The vacuum is just lines with very few charges. The power of the lines is based solely on the matter surrounding the network. Since matter like planets have a huge potential inside it, it literally sucks the matter to the lowest value of it's state. This is evident by the process an object goes through when it falls into this network. The charges that are in the object get leeched out of the object and it becomes frozen and lifeless. This is also what process that water goes through as it turns to snow. And this shows you how unique each inch of our space around our planet (Atmosphere) is. Matter makes that happen like gases and matter like that.

 Charges that are much bigger can ride in between the networks and be accelerated to the fastest that the charge can go. This by the way is what we call Light. But that by no means is the ultimate speed. Because this charge does have a mass it is much slower then what the network is capable of going. These are invisible radiations we see in our world like gamma and beta radiation or even waves like infra red and ultraviolet. I have not worked out all the parameters of the different spectrum of light but I think the concept is sound.

 I hope this helps.

 Oh by the way a great man one day got a novel idea and it turns out he might have been seeing the same thing as me. Here is a peek at his novel idea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sierpinski_pyramid.png

 As you can see if you Zoom in on the picture you will see how these shard orient themselves to create much larger geometries of itself. If you were to flip the blue one and put them base to base you can see how one would contain more charges in the red one and how the blue one would contain less charges. Plus they all go the same direction then a constant flow would happen. One end (red) would be highly charged because it basically has unlimited storage and the blue one has more mass not being able to store much. This could be considered positive(red) and negative(blue). But these are not charges they are the structure of vehicles that will contain charges and are made up of larger crystal shards of the medium of Aether or conductors.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 30, 2011, 06:53:57 PM
 Since I mentioned pyramidal shapes lets look at the biggest example of it in our natural world. Yes, the Great Pyramids were a monument to this secret. It was also a working device as is told by the bible that many hold sacred. The Ark of the covenant was indeed a great capacitor designed to hold a certain amount of potential and allow for the pyramid to be controlled. Water was used around the pyramid to provide storage and collection of charges and as a supply of the conductors(Aether) for it's operation. The bible tells about how the Ark was filled with the power of God and was used for two important reasons. The Ark was a device to allow the transport of any sized stone they needed to move due to it's great capacity for this energy the pyramids supplied and as a great weapon of protection for the Egyptians.

 The pyramids were built in small steps. The smaller pyramids were used to build the larger ones.  This is why there are several smaller pyramids around the larger one. These were merely charging stations for the arks when the larger pyramid was being built. It allowed them to float the great massive stones with the power of the earths own potential by using the Ark to contain an equal charge as the earth. Then just raise the Arks potential slightly by taps on the electrode on the top and they will float anything they wanted. Like a bubble in water it will rise.

 Also if one reads about The Ark and the Philistine's who stole the ark you would see that there was a certain ritual one had to go through to even get close to the Ark. This was a process of oiling and smoking your body with incenses. Well basically making a suit of protection or barrier for the body. Much like the Philistine's who stole the Ark soon after were begging the christians to take it back since anyone who went near it was killed by radiations the Ark gave off from being charged. Now the only reason I bring the bible up or mention it is that the information about the Ark is very clear record of a people who stole the technology (Mosses). In actuality Mosses was an Egyptian who converted to Christianity and knew what the Ark was used for and it's power. He also knew that what was being done to the people was very wrong. All accounts of the Ark from that point on are spectacular to say the least. It floated on it's own following what I suspected was the internal lines of our planet for 40 years. When it discharged the people would wait for it to recharge because the ark settled into places of great conduction. When the Ark depleted itself it simply laid itself down and waited for itself to equalize with the potential of the earth. Remember that when like polarities equalize they push apart causing the Ark to levitate and follow the lines again.

 Now what was the Pyramid for then and why did the Egyptian lands become fertile as they were? Well when you have that amount of energy being siphoned off of the Earth and being stored in water what do you think happened? The water became very energized and accelerated growth of both man and plant through the energy that the water contained. This was the third reason for the pyramid. A desert that came to life and supported life.

 Now did the Egyptians come up with this technology? I highly doubt it. I think it was a leftover from a more advanced civilization that probably died off from self annihilation. Why do I think this well there are a great many clues that the elder races knew way more about the natural processes then we give em credit for. There are many many caches of very old texts that talk about these civilizations and even about the daily events of these peoples. The Vedas being the most notable.
 So how did the Egyptians figure this stuff out. Well they were taught by the library they had access to at the time. It could be the reputed library of Alexander or even access to greek libraries. A lot of information was also stored there since this device was a very powerful device and the priests or technicians needed them for reference. If the device ran out of control it could be very dangerous and the priests were the controllers. After many years they kept the information in storage for safety and forgot what it was for and the Egyptian people turned it into mysticism for the parts that were left in view. After all the christians took the central component and ran with it(the Ark).
 After awhile it became a natural process because the priests taught by word of mouth from what they remembered with only a very few that had access to the library. The longer the time went by the more they didn't understand the device anymore. And gods were born.

 Have you ever thought if you could go back in time only armed with a bic lighter, what would happen when the cavemen saw you use it? How would they would view you? Maybe as the great fire god?

 The shape of the pyramid is a great charge pump. What was it's intended purpose then? Well what problems are we having today? Our world is becoming what it used to be. Very Very Energetic planet! Why? Because over the 1000's of years the charge level in and around our planet has become 1000's of times larger creating a lot of chaos. If It doesn't get equalized it  might rips us apart from the inside out! I really thing there is the same crystals inside our planet and they are growing more energetic because there is more to channel through them now.

 Mark my words these energetic events we are seeing is only going to get worse unless we can draw off some of the built up charges in our center of mass. The pyramids true intentions was one of a planetary equalizer. Because there is only so much mass in the universe if the mass doesn't equal our charge level deep inside our planet then we have a major imbalance and things will get more forceful. Increased super storms and earth quakes are only the beginning unless we get back to what we used to know about us and our world.

 Ok enough of that. I had to bring that up because much has been hidden from our eyes. We are merely scratching the surface of the true potential we hold and truth must be one of those discoveries that we scratch.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on July 31, 2011, 04:14:06 AM
@jbignes5; I am mostly busy with practical experiments; thus not so much on the forums anymore.

Your post #17:
Direction at event horizon?  In which direction does it go?  Some people say inwards, some say outwards.  It is like when you look at a bike wheel; sometimes the optical illusion make it look as if in wrong direction.

My opinion is that the event horizon it bi-directional.  Matter goes inwards, re-charged ready-to-become-matter Aether goes outwards.  I think we have a torus like vortex right there.  Same as in any vortex anything that goes in must come out somewhere else.

By creating the one polarity (+) you automatically creates the other in opposition.  Thus there can be neither alone.  There CAN NOT be a monopole.

I disagree with the matter run forever.  If there is no motion, matter will seize to exist.  At all time matter must get recharged, even on atomic level.  That recharge is by means of vibration, energy, light, sound - LIFE.  You ever noticed in museums that objects even sealed in a perfect enclosure of glass, still has dust developing on and around them?  That is the continues atomic disassociation - atoms that did not get charged and slowed down too far.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on July 31, 2011, 04:17:20 AM
@Forest; you are asking a question that no current accepted model can explain without breaking all their laws.  That was one of the problems I got stuck with more than two years ago.  Allow me to present you with another theory.  I had to go right back to the beginning - The Origin of matter.  for sake of explaning I will remain with current 'lables'.

The smallest unit of matter is the photon.  A photon is neither positive nor negative, but in order to be a form of matter it MUST have both charges, in equal amounts. For sake of argement let us say a Photon has one unit of POS and one unit of NEG.  Then these must be separated, else BOOM! and no photon.  The separation is by means of what I call Sound-Light.

A few photon units will make an electron, a few electrons forms a proton, proton plus electron becomes neutron . . .

What is happening?  Imagine a swirling ball of three colours: Red, Blue and White. (See sphere below) All three colours are swirling around and inter mixing - but not blending.  The red wants to merge witht he blue - but the white keeps them separated.  The Red is the positive charge, the Blue is the negative charge and the White is the Sound-Light barrier that keeps them apart.  There are equal amounts of red and blue on the anterior and posterior; thus no charge.

Sometimes something can happen and the swirling gets separated into two layers.  Now we have Red on outside and Blue on inside with a layer of white separating them. Imagine a tennis ball - green fur on outside, white reinforced rubber in middle with brown or black rubber on inside. We have the positive charge on outside - we measure and call it a positive charged particle.  In truth, the outside is charge as we perceive, but the inside has exactly the same strength of opposite charge.

By nature the positive of one particle will be attracted to the negative of another - hence you can build the atom.  Now, most atoms are only a single 'sphere' but there are a few that could manifest as binary atoms.  Here we will have to imagine a 3D form of figure 8. 

Take a strip of paper, say 30 cm long,  Colour one side Blue and the other red.  Now take in your two hands and twist the right point 180 degrees.  Then bring the two points together to form the 8.  On the one half circle you will have red on outside and blue inside, on the other half circle you will have the opposite. 

What you hold in your hand is the only explanation of why some material can hold and move electrical current.  It is also the only explanation of magnetism.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 31, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
@jbignes5; I am mostly busy with practical experiments; thus not so much on the forums anymore.

Your post #17:
Direction at event horizon?  In which direction does it go?  Some people say inwards, some say outwards.  It is like when you look at a bike wheel; sometimes the optical illusion make it look as if in wrong direction.

My opinion is that the event horizon it bi-directional.  Matter goes inwards, re-charged ready-to-become-matter Aether goes outwards.  I think we have a torus like vortex right there.  Same as in any vortex anything that goes in must come out somewhere else.

By creating the one polarity (+) you automatically creates the other in opposition.  Thus there can be neither alone.  There CAN NOT be a monopole.

I disagree with the matter run forever.  If there is no motion, matter will seize to exist.  At all time matter must get recharged, even on atomic level.  That recharge is by means of vibration, energy, light, sound - LIFE.  You ever noticed in museums that objects even sealed in a perfect enclosure of glass, still has dust developing on and around them?  That is the continues atomic disassociation - atoms that did not get charged and slowed down too far.

 Well the direction is either in or out. There are two sides to the event horizon. Think of it like the surface to water in a tub. The event horizon is the surface of the water. When you pull the plug to the tub eventually there forms the swirling inlet. The other side of the event horizon is the drain or out. Lets look at this example:

http://www.geekosystem.com/furthest-largest-water/

 The picture I want to concentrate on is the blue one with two plumes. If we look at it like one side is the in and the other is the out you can see a density change. Meaning one plume is characteristic of an inlet or the vortex and the other out is characteristic of a hose spraying or outlet. There is a density change between the two and they have characteristics that differentiate the two. We can also think of the black hole as a boundary layer. One side has the charges that act much like a pool of water and the other side is conductors with no charges. The event horizon then is the surface of these charges or pool and the plume that is more characteristic of a spray is the geyser. What sits between the two is a crystal that is shaped much like a pyramid. And that shape allows it to channel charges through it's structure and pressurize the charges and gives them force.

 Also polarity in my opinion has always been just one sided. meaning there is only one polarity +. We have seen from Tesla's experiments and our own that you can in fact have this polarity mimic the negative or direction of negative by being lower then then ambient. In this case polarity is only a direction but it is still a positive potential on the whole. Because positive is the only attraction in the universe. For instance:

(***) <-3 units of charge (polarity >)  (****) <-4 units of charge
(****)          (polarity <)                  (***)

 The flow in these cases are the polarity < >. Now the lesser charge would seem to be the negative and the higher the positive. Just like in the Tesla switch. And this works just like our regular electronics but there is no Negative per say. With the Tesla switch we see that there is a lesser draw on the source as well and this is what I suspect is the driving force behind all of nature. This is why it costs nature near nothing to run and is just a shifting game back and forth using the balance mechanism that is built into this process.

The "negative" is just the ability to hook between two potentials or the Aetheric medium. In the case of the Tesla switch the negatives are hooked together and form the common connection between the positives. It is the channel that provides the bridge between two points or two potentials. This connector is merely a conductor and it has no value for itself.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on July 31, 2011, 03:34:48 PM
.... The "negative" is just the ability to hook between two potentials or the Aetheric medium. In the case of the Tesla switch the negatives are hooked together and form the common connection between the positives. It is the channel that provides the bridge between two points or two potentials. This connector is merely a conductor and it has no value for itself.

If you ever studied the vortex, you will fail to understand why modern astonomy can't understand the pulses/energy from black holes.  In reference to your water vortex, I will ask you one big question.  In referernce for answer see Viktor Schauberger - 'How does the trout become able to swim upstream, even up a waterfall?.  by the way, they do not 'jump' up.

In light of one of my current series of experiments - a vortex is NOT just like water flowing out a drain when you pull the plug.  There is also a counter flow in opposite direction.

As for polarity - there is actually no positive or negative; North or South.  Because of the wrong impression I nowadays understand why some older people prefered to use the terms of Male and Female. The one can't be without the other.  In your viewpoint there is always 'negative'?  Then negative must be monopole?

Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 31, 2011, 04:22:28 PM
If you ever studied the vortex, you will fail to understand why modern astonomy can't understand the pulses/energy from black holes.  In reference to your water vortex, I will ask you one big question.  In referernce for answer see Viktor Schauberger - 'How does the trout become able to swim upstream, even up a waterfall?.  by the way, they do not 'jump' up.

In light of one of my current series of experiments - a vortex is NOT just like water flowing out a drain when you pull the plug.  There is also a counter flow in opposite direction.

As for polarity - there is actually no positive or negative; North or South.  Because of the wrong impression I nowadays understand why some older people prefered to use the terms of Male and Female. The one can't be without the other.  In your viewpoint there is always 'negative'?  Then negative must be monopole?

 So you haven't seen the universe move like it is a fluid then????  Our space behaves much like water. what is below is the energy or charges that we float in. What is above is the "negative" or conductors of the positive. yes there is some of each on the bottom because they conduct positive charges or motion. The negative can be considered neutral if they don't have a charge in tow. They conduct the potential of the charge in tow and thats all the conductors do. They conduct over a much larger distance then the charges are capable of. This is how potentials are referenced: by a bridge (conductor). If that conductor was not present then all movement would seize because one charge would have no way to reference the other, even if they were right next to each other.

 Of course there is a counter flow to the vortex but in our case that counter flow is merely the conductors moving away from the attractive potential as it looses the charge it was sheltering. Even in a tub you can hear the gurgling and suction as the water goes down the drain. That is a reverse flow but in the case of black holes there is no matter to react with so we don't "hear" that or even sense it because you can not sense these conductors(Aetheric).

 By virtue of the shape of this conductor or vehicle it is a monopole. The base is always less in potential then the tip. This makes a bigger potential on the tip as opposed to the base. This is by virtue of the shape of this conductor. The pyramid is such a conductor shape. As Tesla figured out with conical coil they focus the energy from the base to the tip. Because the base has more surface area on that plane then when compared to the tip it in effect makes more potential given the surface area. Meaning the same potential but in a smaller area. The shape also gives these conductors the ability to travel much faster then a normal charge without a vehicle shaped like such. If space moves like a fluid in mass (all of space) then it must follow the laws of fluid dynamics like Tesla suspected.

 Have you ever seen plasma's in the electrical sense? They are much like water and I suspect they are the final phase of matter and energy on the whole. This is the last phase change that matter can have and it's potential is way more then any other phase of matter and energy. With solids being the lowest.

 Can you argue anything otherwise about the Tesla references I have stated like the Tesla switch. That is proof positive that two + potentials when connected together creates a flow that is useful and that does not deplete the source.

 We have to understand that our views of the universe and simplistic energy has been screwed up but the inventions we current hold fast to. The model only describes that system we have designed and not the universe and how it operates. Thats why physics can not accurately describe anything beyond that system. On the other hand it describes accurately the system for which it was designed on. Thats system will never show OU in the least bit. At best it will only attain a balance in the perfect sense. While the Universal physics is based on a much different concept. The balance ability of the Universe is only based on the teeter tawter effect. With the pivot being the ambient measurement. When you change the density of one side the teeter tawter adjusts based on the the conductor or board layed across the pivot. This is the balancing effect of the medium of the Aether. It tends to want to balance with the ambient. Anything else needs energy of movement to compensates that imbalance. Like osmosis. The lowest end will draw in charges to compensate for the lack of charges from the ambient till it can attain the balance and the high end will tend to reverse the osmosis and bleed charges to the ambient till the density lowers. <thats a concept not fully understood by our science.

 The whole reason we have cycles is because of this balancing mechanics that nature provides vie these conductors. It is why we can see great distances and it is the reason we can transmit signals trough space. It is what waves are in the medium of the Aether and we have mistaken these mechanics for Magnetism. It is the whole reason magnetism works and it completely explains gravity by the flow of this network twords a higher potential then the ambient of space. The flow is merely an attraction of the potential to a higher one just like in the Tesla experiments. And the flow is controllable through these attraction of potential to a higher one.

 If we take this to a new level then you might understand the concept better. Lets take water in our space around our planet. if we scoop out a cup of water it gets replaced very very quickly by the ambient level of the water. If we merely slap our hand on the surface it will start to oscillate and continue to do so till the balancing mechanism of water and tension reduce the waves to the ambient again. This is all due the the network of charges that are around our potential in our planet flowing twords that central spot. It is a pressure flowing inwards and out the poles of our planet. And it is the reason we have an equator as well. The equator is the balance point. Either the in or out point. I havent figured out yet which it is. The resulting flows interact with the matter of our atmosphere and create complex cycles. One reliant on the other and ultimately reliant on the base interaction of the Aether. Even the magnetic flows around our world is created from this flow and it is why they are even there in the first place.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 31, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
 Here is a good redition of what I am talking about. Don't read the story stuff below it and only pay attention to the picture.

 http://archives.realvail.com/RealRhetoric/382/Creationism-deadly-black-holes-911-conspiracies-global-warming-hoaxes-and-other-myths-Part-II.html

 If we look at the surface of the "Water" and think of the plume going up as a spray on what the black mass floating in it is spraying up then gets attracted back down twords the sea of energy we and it float in. Thats what turns it back to the surface then gets cycled back to the accelerator. I believe that maybe there is two guns. One pointing up from the plane of energy and the other pointing down. One plays with energy or charges and the other is a reaction of these conductors after releasing the charges they carry. When referencing one to the other one will be very heavy in density with energy and the other is depleted of energy. They could be considered opposites but there is no negative per say. Just an absence of positive or just the neutral(conductor) I referenced earlier.

 If we then look at geysers on our own planet we can see the same action.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on July 31, 2011, 07:38:49 PM

 I wanted to talk more about Cymatics. Link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymatics

 When we have a super fine medium like salt or sand that has a specific geometry to it's particles That geometry can bleed through and effect the mass of these particles. In this case the particles are pyramidal in shape or even the double ended version the Tetrahedron. Well that is the 6 sided version. I am thinking that is the correct number. The number 3 is very sacred in the ancient beliefs. So a double ended version would be the Tetrahedron.

 More later
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: supersam on July 31, 2011, 09:41:58 PM
@j
tetrhedrons refer to ten sided geometric objects.  however, i agree that marco rodin's nine theories or threes as you might like to look at have alot of theoritical potential.

lol
sam
ps: keep the good work!
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 01, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron

 Ok so if we look at the Sierpinski triangle That would be the 5 sided version with a square as a base and the 4 sided version which is a tetrahedron, we can see fractals come into the picture. We also see new rules from the Sierpinski triangle. These rules are based on curved verses sharp edges and how they align with other edges. This alignment is caused by the medium itself. The medium lines up with the much larger crystals allowing them to form bridges and apply force to keep those bridges aligned and together. This is because there is a potential difference between one base and another tip. With the edges being the nearest connection point when referenced to the base. It might be better to zoom into the picture of the square based pyramid(Sierpinski triangle, 3d version) to see how this would align.

 I'm leaning on the 3 faced pyramid only because 3 and 6 are pretty important to the ancients. Almost every society has these as sacred. Even Christianity has the trinity or the 3 faces of God. And two would equal 6 or the double ended crystal. Remember that the double ended crystal has both the red and blue Sierpinski triangle (3d version).

 Now is there any evidence in nature that this is exactly the numbers. Well yes...

 Lets look at what I consider the condensed Aether(Conductor) water and how that works in nature when it freezes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Snowflake_-_Microphotograph_by_artgeek.jpg

 Right here we have 6 conductors going twords the source junction. I believe this junction is 6 sided for only one reason. When a charge binds the two halves together the tips are generally the same polarity meaning they would self organize and the tips would push them away from each other. They both would have the same amount of charge from the source on the base because that area has nearly the same value. So the pyramids orient themselves with a 45 degree twist. If we then make a line around those bases you would see a Hexagon. The hexagon is made as the water gets attracted to the flow line approaching the network node of space. It rides this line much like water flowing down a thread. It beads up then slips down the thread or conductor line in a teardrop shape. When the water hits the nodes it sucks any charges out of the water and the water freezes in the shape we see in just about all snowflakes. Every picture we see of snowflakes have this geometry in the center with 6 radiating lines going out from there. I really think we are seeing a snapshot of this network when we look at snowflakes. because water is a low end phase changer it can and will take a picture of what is leeching these charges from the water.

 If you are starting to think that water is the only proof then you are mistaken. Lets look at metals now. How about our favorite metal of choice when it comes to electronics. Copper:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cu-Scheibe.JPG

 This is a copper disk that was etched with acid after making it in that form and it clearly shows the six sided geometry in it as well! If you were to continue you would notice that anything that has been formed through a phase change has this pattern in it to some degree.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on August 02, 2011, 04:47:25 AM
@jbignes5;
The problem I personally have with your arguments are numbers.  Depends which glass you want to look through - all numbers are important.  You say # 3 for many reasons but let us look at some other numbers.

The number two is all present - opposites, polarity, good vs evil, light vs darkness.  I would say there are more of a two in any ancient writings than any other number.  What about #4?  Most temples were build with four sides as were pyramids all over the world, many cities, castles even houses.  Often houses were actually circular - the concept of Zero though they did not see it as such except in Africa.

Is Seven not the sacred number?  The whole Talmud, Bible, Bagavatghita and Koran at least is filled with seven as numerical value.  Six on the other hand is usually reserved for death, satan.  In Buddhism six is the very bad unlucky number.

Eight which is 2x4 is not so widely used except in the biblical new testament where it is the number of Christ.  However, when you rurn the 8 on its side, you find it in all other traditions - the symbol of infinity.  How about nine?  3x3 or 3+6, 5+4 these shows the ultimate of binary. On its own it is seldom used.

There is one more critically important number which is not a single digit - except in Buddhism.  #13. Though many consider it the unlucky number - it has extremely powerful connections.  This is the number of the most powerful angels (Christian, Jewish and Muslim) - The scribe of God; who happens to be a human man.  Be it Imhothep. Enoch, Joseph, or whoever - his name is Metatron.

Even in Christianity - 12 disipels PLUS Jesus = 13!
Judaism - 12 months in year, but some years has 13th month - to bring balance between dates and nature.
Jackob had 12 sons of which one is Joseph; the one who saved all his brothers, without him Isreal would not exist.
Yet, his name does not occur as a tribe in later chronology?  In stead two of his sons are present Mannasse and Ephraem.

Metatron is the 13th; that is the one seldom seen although he is more important that the other 12 usually seen. 

(To continue)
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on August 02, 2011, 04:48:10 AM
. . . which brings me to the most important statement you can ever get; "The forces of nature is not singular - it is a harmony of many shapes"  If you are looking for the most important geometric shape, or most important number you are destined to fail.  THAT is the single biggest problem we have in science today.

Metatron has his own scared geometry which consists of 13.  Google 'Metatron Cube' and you will find many variations.  Within the metratron cube you find the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 and 13 with ALL geometric shapes embedded.  A uniform, all present, all encompassing single FOUR DIMENSIONAL object - it even reflects all from first, two, three and fourth dimensions and from there you can see the all important picture of everything we need to know.  also we can see all the mistakes ever made in science to this day.

Remaining is only one more pointer to make.  However much you are seeking a shape or form, you will always find there is only one. It is the spiral, vortex - or should I say - it is the Golden Ratio.   1.618.   The golden ratio has the Fibonachi and phi elements, it has all the elements of all geometrical shapes - and that is the ultimate shape you will find from small miniscule life forms through to the shapes of Galaxies - and everything in-between.
 
Aether is not a shape, not a number, no mass, no energy - it is a pure non-existing all present paradox which is the origin of everything.  In the Metatron Cube the Aether is also the sphere in the centre, the one on its own is only a void, point of origin - also the centre of nothing.  Without it there can be no cube, no triangle nor anything else.

Within water you have all (crystal) shapes, as you can see in snowflakes.  Within ALL elements you have all possible numbers of geometric/crystalline shapes.  In Hydrogen for instance we find - Hydrogen (Protium), Deuterium, Tritium, Quadrium, Muonic Helium, Hydrogen Pentium, Hydrogen Octium and even 7H. To date no higher isotopes were observed - yet.

The Aether is present in ALL shapes, 2-D and 3-D; but it is the new dimension of this 21st century.  That will be our lessons in this near future, the change of 2012 Batuun.  We will come to know about the FOURTH DIMENSION. 

In all shapes the Aether is the fourth dimension - the centre point of the complete shape. 
But there is a paradox:  The Fourth Dimension is also the ZERO dimension;
from the nothing (Aether) came every matter and every matter is holding the aether within itself.
Yes, fractal to the interior until you reach - the Aether; infinity.

Rather than trying to apply geometry, I would suggest looking at the application of FRACTALS at the GOLDEN RATIO when you are seeking answers; and seek to know more about the Aether.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 02, 2011, 01:27:36 PM
 You will not find me disagreeing on your statements about the numbers. But one thing is clear the genesis of all matter seems to point to the 3 and 6. 3 being the base and 3*2=6. I am not saying there is no other numbers associated with the MASS of these particles, meaning in Masses these particles can form any shape and combination. It could be that the higher numbers are harmonics of these base shapes of 3 and 4. I do believe that 3 and 4 are the base numbers. And any combination of those equal the harmonic collections or masses of these particles.

 You brought up a good point and I hadn't thought of that yet because I was trying to focus on the basic aspect of this medium. In order to get to the basic aspect I took what appeared in the macro and worked back to the micro and below. Because this appearance of the basic shapes and geometry bleed through the macro scale I am thinking this is the fractal connection.

 I saw a very interesting experiment on the show "Through the Wormhole". It was with liguid silicone on a vibratory plate of liquid silicone. By using a tooth pick they could dip into the silicone and produce little drops that never would touch the vibrating mass of silicone that was vibrating. So it bounced like rubber ball on a very elastic membrane. The bouncing caused a standing wave pattern in the trembling silicone and it acted much like what I have described in my talks here. The standing waves guided the ball of silicone especially when other balls were created. I'm gonna see if I can find that video online. It completely explains what I am seeing for the atom and the action of the medium.

 I'll edit this if I find a link...

 Ok found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toebBv_fAe8&NR=1

 Now in this case we could say that the surface of the fluid is the medium of aether and the drops are the atom.. The only thing is the medium is 3 dimensional. It quivers and the matter inside of it gets its energy from that. The problem is the quiver is super fast because the medium has no real limits like light does. The standing waves that matter causes is because of inertia of the matter in the mediums density. We can see this effect on the macro scale of our Universe but it is much harder to see on the micro scale because the density of Aether is so vast and moves instantly. I know for a fact that this is the reason matter behaves the way it does.

 Here is another experiment that shows what the dual slit experiment is actually doing knowing this new information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHHaDWEWtQE

 We have a lot of restructuring now to do to our know physics. We must admit that the ancients and our forefathers knew more then we think we know now. Why did they know more because it was so simple it was staring them and us in the face the whole time. We just like to make thing so complicated that there is no way we could figure this out.

 So Tesla was right all along. Standing waves are the secret and matter is tightly integrated with that standing wave. The more Mass of matter the larger the ability to convert that minute vibration into real energy. Because Matter has the Aether in it the matter acts like an anchor and ties inertia to the medium through it's connections in the matter and dampens this vibration that the Aether has. Think of it as a Super giant bowl of jello and then place marbles on it. When you vibrate the jello it will move the marbles without having to apply direct energy to the marbles themselves. Of course the marbles will not have the same rate of vibration as the medium it rests on because of inertia. Thats the 2d representation. Now think in fluid 3d.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on August 02, 2011, 02:33:24 PM
We have a problem; we can't continue to work on assumptions or what we think from what we think we see.  Take for instance yourself.  When you walk, drive, ride on the road; what percentage of Blue Toyota Camry's do you notice?  Now, let us assume you buy a blue Toyota Camry - suddenly you will see so many more on the road.  I just went through a similar experience here in Thailand with the old 'Singing bowls'  I love them.  Been here for 12 years and very seldom see any.  Then I started collecting them - because they are quite rare; well that is what I thought.  Now that I am building a serious collection I find more and more at almost any and every market / auction I visit.

If you are looking for the THREE's you find them more than SEVEN; if you are looking for the SEVEN, you will find them more than THREE's.  Be aware of your own perception.  When you are healthy, few people has cancer; when you are diagnosed with it, suddenly one out of twenty has cancer ! ! !  What changed, definitely not the number of cancer living people.

THREE - yea it is an important number.  Similar to Tesla I do count often in threes.  I hate to go to the computer centre here in Pattaya - every time I do go there, such visit is forced-followed up with two more; every time problems with computer!  Always three.  But is it correct that THREE is the number in geometry?  No it can't be, geometry can't be 2D - so at least you must have four corners, four sides - that is FOUR? 

The Pyramids does not have any three in it - they are not two Dimensional.  There are 5 corners, 4 sides, 5 planes, 8 edges and each plane has three edges.  Unless off course you take the pyramids with mirror image where you will have 6 corners, four sides, 8 planes, 12 edges . . .

In life we say we humans have the Body, Spirit and Soul - three?  God manifest in three - Father, Son and Holy spirit?  These are all WRONG!  There is no three.  God is One. The human is one. Whatever the components are, all together forms one and they are more than only three components.

By the way, try to imagine a six sided three dimensional object.  Is it not a Cube?

Horrible as it might sound, my respectful advice is to forget about Nassim Haramein and his concepts that NEVER achieved anything but confusion.

There is no base number - unless you will accept ZERO.
All existence are shape and dimension - from origin to existence and back to origin;

Again, have a look at the Metatron Cube - and build yourself a 3D model.
Quite an interesting experience, VERY educational and amazing assesments will follow.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: aromaz on August 02, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
What I see is resistance; resistance that is caused by sound or gravity.  I have the same effect on water with my singing bowls.  Vibration of sound prevents merging, droplets dance on the surface.

If you want to look more into Aether you have to consider the origin of matter.  Aether is the ZERO, the base; the origin of all matter.  Thus it can't have any properties of matter. It was and is there before the matter.  You can't compare aether to water - that is wrong.  It is not a fluid dynamic, it is not an energy, it does not have any properties.

To understand Aether - you have to compare and think of Aether; not matter.

Aether is not polarized; therefore it can't be measured or observed in any way known to us.

When Aether is 'charged' or modified by the 'Sound'; 'Light' starts to form, it starts vibrating, becomes polarized and have a barrier between the two polarities.  THEN it can start to behave like matter and it can be observed and measured.  Only after it becomes polarized can it cause any effect on or with matter.  Only then can it be seen as 'the fabric of space'. 

There is no big mystery about space or the so called fabric of space.
'Fabric of space' is a combination of electrical charge and gravity, the later due to disassociation of matter.

This is the cycle of existence:
Aether
Sound
Light
Polarity (Electrical and Motion)
Matter (Magnetic)
Gravity (Decay)
Dissasociation (Radiation)
Seize of Motion
Seize of Polarity
Release of Light
Aether

Where the 'Sound' and 'Light' is not to be confused with Electromagnetic phenomena.
These are from a different origin, yet to be properly defined other than to say "God".

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT
Of course there is the other Aether - the one that is measureable with instruments; the one we use to send radio signals and shockwaves through.  That aether is a mixed soup of Electro Magnetic Gravity Energy.  I personally do not consider this the Aether as per original definition.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: IotaYodi on August 02, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
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If you want to look more into Aether you have to consider the origin of matter.  Aether is the ZERO, the base; the origin of all matter.  Thus it can't have any properties of matter. It was and is there before the matter.  You can't compare aether to water - that is wrong.  It is not a fluid dynamic, it is not an energy, it does not have any properties.

To understand Aether - you have to compare and think of Aether; not matter.

Aether is not polarized; therefore it can't be measured or observed in any way known to us.
I agree somewhat.  I dont see the Aether as an entity unto itself. It may be a combination of forces with gamma ray bursts being at the top and interacting with the rest of the cosmos. Finding the source of these astronomically intense  energy bursts might shed some light on the nature of the aether. 
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 02, 2011, 04:18:55 PM
I agree with you aramaz on most of your points. 3 can and will work if you understand the base of the triangle. It is that sole part that can make any shape in the universe. Heck it is even how we make computer graphics that look so real.

 And I hate to burst your bubble(ahaha little pun) but Water is the Aether. It is just condensed. The Aether is where water gets it's properties and since everything shows a fractal nature then water must be the key. It is the sole thing besides salt they we must have to live. Salt being the other because it is just another form of the Aether in solid form. Meaning that instead of it being made up of particles of gas it has structure to it or stiff matter.

 What prevents the merging is not resistance but Surface tension. It is the boundry between two specific densities. The Aether though would have the exact same properties as water because it is so finely crushed that is resembles a fluid. But if we zoomed way in we would see that the smooth appearance has order and symmetry and complete roughness. Although the parts never touch because of the vibration of the medium in which that floats. This process goes on and on.. The more you look deeper the further it goes. That is the fractal nature we live in. It is evident in anything you look at. You just have to look at it with open eyes. 

 When close to a great source of charges it's density is super concentrated. When it is in space it becomes fluffy or extremely less dense. This is the reason we have an atmosphere and it explains the layers in our atmosphere perfectly. It also shows how matter organizes this Aetheric energy and draws energy from the Aether by slowing the Aether down. When matter's density is very high you have less Aether and more inertia. Meaning that inside our planet is a huge potential. This is evident by all the heat and expansion of our matter we live on. and in the case of Blackholes they get all that energy by being made of the very medium it floats in. It is the perfect conduit for the vibration all around it but it has direction and can bridge the gap of the Aether in huge lengths. All the matter that goes into the Blackhole is used for growth of that conduit and hence can bridge an even longer gap as it grows. Unfortunately this means that eventually Blackholes will get too big and might even break itself like it did in the beginning of our space. Who knows there could be miniature Universes inside all blackholes that reach a certain size in our space.

 The Aether as I have stated is the background to matter. It is a component of matter as well. and it reacts to the Vibrations of the Aether. It is the reason for all forces(flows) we see today. Gravity and magnetism can be completely explained by the Aether and it's affect on matter as it channels the vibration of the plane we exist on. It is the whole reason why we have planes in the Universe and even our own solar system. Are there places in the universe that don't have the Aether. Well simply put yes because the Aether is a conductor of the vibrations of our container. Does it have connections to the rest of the Universe, absolutely or else we couldn't see beyond our own Galaxy. is it a straight line sight. I highly doubt it. Do we think we are seeing a straight line, absolutely and it is the whole reason things look black in outer space.

 One experiment that brings this to light is the seemingly random charges that appear then disappear in outer space. they are not appearing and disappearing in a sense. What they are doing is traveling on a conduit and happen to be caught in the detector because the detector can not go fast enough to see it move in real time. So it appears to be appearing and disappearing. This process can be seen in this very simple experiment. Take a fan and put it in front of your TV at night. Now the fan doesn't look like it is going so fast but yet it is. This is the same effect we see in those experiments. It just means we can not detect the charges fast enough with our detector to tell the true path it follows. We only get glimpses of it as it passes the detector. Little blips as it is caught in it's path. It's true speed is the ultimate this network can go and that is way faster then we are capable of detecting.

 If you get one thing out of the experiments I showed you from the 10k frames a second videos I would hope that it would be that you understand we as an observer are limited to our ability to see such minute changes in our space. We can't see the results because our own devices are limited to the devices sampling rate. We all to often say I won't believe it till I see it with my own eyes but I tell you you nor I would ever be able to see what we seek and then will never believe the concept because we can't loose that axiom we live by.

 This I think is why I can see this process. Because I let myself look inwards to the Aether I contain. I know it is there and real and I can accurately describe it because my own Aether is giving me the information. I then look outwards to see the effects of the Aether all around me and I see it plain as day. Not with my eyes but with my own Aether I can sample the proof and see it's affect on matter. I can see the signs and not wonder why the natural processes have this pattern. I have made the connection that our ancients made before they had Technology that was invented. They simply copied what they saw in their Aether and proofed it by looking for the signs all around them. When they did this they truely understood their place in nature and lived without harming their environment. Simply because they understood the processes behind it all.
 Of course some associated it with "God" and to tell you the truth as much as a Galaxy looks like bath scum going down the drain it would be crazy of me to deny that, that much energy would not have an intelligence about itself and the contents of itself. Seeing that connections are made over vast distances in our Universe we have to admit that in some way there is a "God" like intelligence out there made up of all the matter, conductors and energy that the Universe contains.
 We sometimes mistakenly think we are the top of the food chain till something comes along that is much bigger then we think we are. Most of us are vain and egotistical in thinking we know the absolute truth and yet we know very little of the Universe and all it contains, even today we are finding new things that boggle our minds. Would this be any different?

 Please understand I am not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to show you that we don't and couldn't know the truth even if we are swimming it. Heck we are made out of the very essence of the Aether and yet we have been taught to ignore our inner voice(Aether). It is screaming at us to change our ways and nothing will change till we change our views of us, our Solar system, our Universe. You might even say that certain beliefs in our history were very close to the absolute truth. In most of those believe internal searching for the secret was the key to enlightenment because the answer is within us and all around us. But since we have been programmed to not believe in our true instincts we ignore the facts our minds are showing us.

 It is being proofed as we speak that we are all connected. That events can be foretold because we can access this information. Not in time but in the Aether. All events would have ripples much like the ripples we see in water as a drop hits the surface of the water. It goes all ways through time because time is but an oscillation of the Aether and matter allows time to be a constant because it slows the Aether the closer you get to the center of matter. Matter is the true resistance of the Universe because on our scale matter has mass and inertia and it also contains the Aether which is how it can effect the flow of the Aether as a reaction and it is bidirectional as well.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: IotaYodi on August 02, 2011, 06:52:55 PM
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but Water is the Aether. It is just condensed. The Aether is where water gets it's properties
That didnt make sense.
If the Aether is water then the Aether would be hydrogen oxide.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 03, 2011, 03:19:48 AM
That didnt make sense.
If the Aether is water then the Aether would be hydrogen oxide.

 Hmmm. So what is in between the molecules then? Obviously there is something there else everything would compress to the ultimate density? Which water is very compressible. What is that force that is holding matter from touching each other and melding together then springing back after the compressing?

 The Aether is very much smaller then the oxygen or even the hydrogen is. It is that space in between the matter That we are talking about. In that space their seems to be a springy like connection that conducts and passes charges even while in the fluid forms of water.

 If you say nothing then you have no idea about the scale at which I'm talking about and nothing about matter as well. On the smallest scales that we can see matter is suspended apart from each other. It is not because of some imaginary forces that we know nothing about. It is the connections that gives atoms it's ability to transmit energy or charges with.

 Lets see what I am talking about:

http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/01/29/wana-see-what-gold-atoms-look-like/

 This is the closest we can see atoms atm. Maybe there is better ones now, just that I can not find them or they have not been released yet.

 When I say condensed Aether I mean that is not connected to the web or network and has the ambient charge level of the environment. Although it is connected to it's own network I believe that in the case of water the surface effect is a small break in this environmental network because of a severe density change of that network. In other works the network comes to a bottleneck and has limited connection to the environment network. The network is made up of the Aether conductors and is displaced by the atoms of matter or held in place. When matters density changes from water to the air there is a severe density change in the network between the air and water. So water would have tons more conductors in between it's matter then say air would. Hence the surface effect. This goes for anything that changes density.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: IotaYodi on August 03, 2011, 03:55:14 AM
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Hmmm. So what is in between the molecules then?
Its not water.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 03, 2011, 05:18:39 AM
Aether doesn't even begin to work until 1,016 Tesla or above until the magnetic field strength is satisfied.

this was recently discovered, virtual particles can now be trapped into existence.

it is about how much energy you have to play with period.

you all think on small terms of energy and just not enough to confound relativity.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 03, 2011, 01:05:33 PM
Its not water.

 Really. Then water as I should have said contains more of the condensed Aether then most other matter we can look at except for crystals like diamond and quarts. When I say condensed it means there is extra Aether that has collected there in between the water molecules. Does that help you to understand?

 The Aether is not virtual either. It is very dynamic yes but the base particles are very real. Just because they are to us invisible to our eyes does not make them less real. Because we can not see the center to the Blackhole does not make it less real. It is after all consuming matter and we can see that. We have to look at the effects and then we can see the origin.

 My thinking on condensing is that after a conductor looses it's charge or depletes a portion they can float down from the network and reattach itself to water. This gives water extra places to attach charges or network connections within it's own mass. The boundary layer is actually made up of these extra conductors and they filter into the water as the water circulates twords the surface. Water molecules pick up the extra conductors in this process and float to the bottom because they now lack charges but have more receptors for new charges. This makes them heavy in the sense of molecules and they sink to the bottom.

 At this point on the molecular scale, like particles tend to harmonize with other like particles. This causes a standing wave around the particle as the medium of Aether is vibrating and this standing wave is merely like the cymatics I referenced earlier. The medium of Aether bunches up around the particle making it look like it has a shell, more commonly called the electron cloud. This bunching up is only the medium of the Aether itself. But these collections of medium have great power in conducting charges twords the potential or charges contained in the matter shell of flakes. The flakes of matter are what gives the internal charge it's frequency based on the matter flakes size, shape and even dielectric strength. Harmonies form from all of these components and a particle maintains it's uniqueness because of that frequency and the other laws at that level. The shells are completely capable of traversing the shells and the less dense areas because of charges that get attracted to the internal charges potential via the pulsing of the matter flakes.

 If there is one thing you learn I would think that flows are the "Energy" of the universe. Learn how to intercept or divert that flow and you have a never ending stream of energy from nature itself. We now know that if you have super high voltages and very little amps you can transfer energy with out loss or very little loss. It was the one gift that Tesla came up with. If you are having a hard time getting power to the designated spot then just raise the potential and the current drops. Feed that over the same conductors we use on that scale and bingo near unity energy support. If you then lower the potential in the device then you get nearly all the force inside the zone of transformation. If we let induction happen and down convert that potential in the device itself, like a motor then you get more then you had to supply if you transmit the potential first in the air to the receiver then pump that potential into the device to transform into real current of the motor you get extra energy picked up from the network you are pulsing which would be the Aether when used via standing waves.

 The problem has been of materials that react to the Aether and that have extra Aether to carry the collected extra charges. Since Tesla was working in the fluid pump design he learned a lot about water and it's ability to transmit these charges to exactly where he wanted it. In fact I and other have done experiments about Water and the capacitor like effect it has. Even when left alone to it's own ability it seems to recharge on it's own. If we use this like Tesla figured out then water could be the super conductor of these powerful charges. If stimulated properly they could collect and store much more charges then any other device made by man and it energizes the water we would use bringing our environment back to the way it was by boosting it's ability to recharge the environment.

 I think aluminum is that material. I suspect when aluminum pipes are used it would extract this energy of charges and deposit it to the water that flows in it creating a turbo battery like effect. Simply hook your motor between the cyclic pipes and use a ground. Even a virtual ground will work like the body of a car. This would allow the body to spread out the charges and rejoin the cycle. The faster the water the higher the potential and the more charges it can collect. I could be at that point we need to direct the collection points like where the radiator is so that an increase in the flow of the air around the pipes increases the amount of ambient charges it will collect. Obviously a pulsing high potential signal will need to be used to stimulate the free charges to collect in the water cap. a one way signal. Thats where diodes and caps are for are for. I would prefer to use a spark gap and that will make this very simple.

 This is the same process as Dr. Stiffler has shown. But I believe that his process doesn't work well or as good as it should because he doesn't use a clean diode like effect. With the spark gap that is near perfect on via the break down of the air between the gap. This break down is actually more conductors being attracted to that space. The extra punch it gives is not because of the braking down but because in the instant of a micro second it conducts and goes way faster then it should. Ozone I believe is a result of the conductors being super saturated at that point in space. <Not sure about that statement.

 It might be that we have to stimulate the water inside the aluminum pipes via an isolated electrode with fluid dynamics design into the electrode to facilitate the fast cycling of the water. This way the aluminum is not directly connected to the aluminum reducing the risk of shocks. They should be very rounded electrodes that allow for the higher potential to not penetrate the water as easily.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: forest on August 03, 2011, 10:44:21 PM
I thought Tesla said ether has gaseuos  form ? Tesla also stated radio waves are longitudinal and Hertz wave do not exists.
Exceptionally strange it sounds but my advice : do not disregard Tesla statements. He proved all experimentally. In 1890 he sent energy of few HP to devices using Hertz waves tuned to his body capacitance, but later (after 1895) he used only longitudinal waves.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: raburgeson on August 03, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
Study him some more and check out the statements about 3 dimensional lattice. The aether is a continuous flow of energy. The only thing that seems to offer resistance to the flow is a wall of frozen ether. See stiffening the aether with high voltage static electrical fields. What it is exactly I can't say. I think Maxwell and Tesla fully understood. I would be great to go back to the time they went to school wouldn't it.

If true hertz waves exist then  we could apply his theory of oscillation to them. It doesn't work. He didn't mean hertz waves don't exist altogether, he meant they don't exist as the standing scientific definition. I (think) he was implying that there is something very wrong about the description of the wave. You might like to check what Gabriel Kron said about electro-magnetic waves. Unfortunately the US government told him what he was allowed to disclose. Take for example the negative resistor he discovered. He was told to describe material as if only one element displayed negative resistance properties. For one you can add to that list iron.  There are some oxides that show some super conducting and negative resistance also. We know now that palladium has been manufactured impure to make cold fusion stay on a shelf. Without pure Palladium you can't make it work. Just a modern day example of the government hiding the truth or interfering in behalf of the to big to fails. They did this in Tesla's days too. They didn't control Tesla himself, they controlled his financial backing. If he had took it to court and made everyone pay as agreed per Horse power, Walden Cliff would have been built and the to big to fails wouldn't ever have existed.

Tesla's work is still top secret. That's an indication that it is really worth trying to understand, good luck.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 03, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
 Yes well they are longitunal. But you have to remember the Aether planes are waving. It is the same process that happens all around a black hole. He creates a wave that looks like the sign wave on an oscilloscope but it radiates out from the center of the disturbance. The ripples in the Aether carry extra conductors back to the source. Think of it as a pond that is smooth and calm. Then start a drop flow in the center of the pond and all kinds of action radiates and rebounds all over the place.  Put a body that floats in the lake and it will toss to and fro. Sometimes so strong  a force that it rips the body apart. The potentials he used were so incredibly high that near nothing was lost in the transmission of this energy and the body would tend to absorb most of the disturbances. Kinda like the action you see around an island. where the island looks like the ending place of all the action around the island.

 We kind of use this process already but it is inside of a coil. With the coil being the body in the pond. The only difference is that in Tesla's method the body has very limited effect on the source after the source has discharged.

 In our futile attempts we usually don't get the process right and the cycle ends up being in the circuit. You need to stop the back flow twords the source so that the capacitor has time to refill without being effected by the feed back. This is another reason Tesla used magnets to "quench" the gap. Meaning it had to fight to get through the magnetic field and this also magnified the effect as well because of constriction of the arc space via magnetic field. I saw a demonstration once of a guy who took a ring magnet and allows a high voltage spark near the center of the magnet. It spread out from the center and followed a flat plane till it hit the magnet. It looked like an electric disk. Very even and very interesting. This process of "Quenching" is much the same as the hose and water nozzle version of my talks. Compressing the energy raises the potential even further and draws more to the conduction path. It could be that he put some sort of antenna buds around this area to lead charges into the system for an extra boost.

 His motor was also a very curious thing indeed. I think Tesla figured out that when you generate from very fine wires from a magnetic field you get very high voltage. Since this voltage has no real current it's kick back is very small as we are finding out. This High voltage generator was on the same shaft of the generator(magnet)/(Generator field coils/starter motor)/ drive motor. With his design of the ac induction motor it allowed the conversion from high voltage to lower voltage very high amps in the generator winding. If you shorted the winding the Generator field coils would operate normally like a standard induction motor but if you opened them  and fed them to the drive motor it would assist the whole process and drive itself as well as any load you wanted. In fact this motor ran at a standard speed and when you tried to retard the shaft it generated even more current. He said it was impossible to stop except for the fact that the winding could not stand that much current and usually developed a short if it was retarded to much. This motor I believe was patented and worked on the principle of the Aether or the antithesis of our magnetic system, or in reverse of our system. I have posted many links to this patent and will do so again if anyone wants to see it. The central rings around the rotor are Torrids with single layered coils split into 1/4 of the ring. This way the magnetic field is trapped into the ring and only the electric field is allowed to play with the generator coils. I'm in the process of attempting to build one. Should know if it works in a few months. I got a frame built ac motor that I am gonna get shaved down into a ring or round stock for the torrid. and use the core as is. I just need to make a break in the rotor coil so that I can open and close the coil to create the effect. I am also thinking that I could get away with a motor that has a lid that has two halves of the torrid. A split torrid would act like a PMH of eds once energized and hold itself together. This could make designing and building the motors very easy and working on them very very simple.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: raburgeson on August 03, 2011, 11:55:38 PM
Can't use that example, you can apply Tesla's theory of oscillation to the wave in a pond. His mechanical oscillator could increase the size of the waves by adding timed pulses to them. If you add a timed pulse to a hertzian wave it will not change the amplitude.

Yes you are right like the action around a black hole. except it has no boundaries. It's acting that way throughout the entire universe all at once.
One wire can carry multiple energy transmissions. Now consider a 1 thousands of an inch cross section of the universe and how many transmissions it can carry. The problem is they are no coherent transmissions. The trick is collecting waves that are coherent out of the aether. waves with the same potential. As energy passes through the earth the minute resistance causes a  potential difference on opposite sides of the earth. That was what Tesla was going to prove to Einstein to prove him wrong when Einstein was a no show. Tesla went on a rant that the media had a lot of fun with. You'd have ranted too if you had spent your own money to prove something and the other party didn't show.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 04, 2011, 01:31:02 AM

 I wasn't referring to a hertzian wave actually. What I was referring to is the expanding ring of displaced Aether. They are very akin to regular fluidic waves. The potential increase from the peek of the circular wave is what I am talking about. This will not be like hertzian waves at all. These are one way pulses that actually collect free charges that fall all around us all the time. Even though they are minute there are a billion of them in a square centimeter and that is a conservative estimate. I believe that they are whats left of the conductors that have bigger charges that float up because they are more energetic. When these conductors loose the charges they fall back to earth. Some even collect and stick together and form rain when they loose enough charge.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: raburgeson on August 04, 2011, 04:06:59 AM
Now start billions of waves in a pond each in a different place and watch them interact. One thing we have no proof of is are the waves bouncing at the edge of the universe, leaving the universe, or mobius looping. The sun produces a 28 day energy circle as it revolves. Of course the sun may not be a source of aether but, if it is there are a billion suns in billions of galaxies. Scientists have looked at everything from mild to wild and have no clue about the origin. Main stream they don't even like to admit aether existence.

I believe our senses are so limited and our technology is also, it will be thousands of years before aether is understood completely. In the bandwidths we are able to observe and the energies we understand we have observed there is something there. Being 3 dimensional creatures we are only getting a x,y,z snapshot of what's going on.

Even on a thin plane it would be unfair to assume that spots that look like they have the same potential do because the sum of the energies at that spot is a the sum of x number of wave energies. The amplitude might look the same but, the mixtures of transmission giving that sum may be far different.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 04, 2011, 04:19:23 AM

 I agree and I have said as much. But to tell you the truth who cares if the Aether is bouncing off the external. It is weather we can subdue this particle for our use without cause undue harm to us or nature. Thats the trick really.

 Other have gone down this road already but we as a civilization was not interested in providing for our neighbors. We chose the I provide for myself or the me civilization. Now that it is falling apart we have to change our views. Of both our place in this world or even who we are really, both individuals and as a civilization.

 I would think that most of us would love to not have to work and toil for our basic needs. Hey if you want to make extra then so be it but then we could have the luxury of doing such. Something must change or we will go extinct because we didn't want to share equally the bounties of this world provides on a basic level. Instead we rush and stake a claim to something we could not possible own and then charge others for partaking in that claim.

Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: raburgeson on August 04, 2011, 05:09:34 AM
Tesla figured it out and you can too. Intuitiveness, inspiration and all the other things in any combination could get you there. Remember I said if you find what you need and there is an over abundance it becomes easy to share. Right now I'm reading everything I can on torsion field physics hoping I can fire 2 perpendicular torsion fields at a glass of water to see what happens.  Hope I get a little inspiration along the way.

Good luck with your project!

Frequencies help shake the water molecule apart. In case you think there is no plan and I'm just talking crap! We thought to try gluing in pedestal and iron ball to the center of a glass and surrounding the glass with ten electromagnets on 2 planes and using a solid state distributor to rotate the fields on each plane individually at different speeds. That's for a first try. We have other ideas on how this might be accomplished. Like Edison said, each failure shows you one more way not to do it.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 04, 2011, 05:22:10 AM
Tesla figured it out and you can too. Intuitiveness, inspiration and all the other things in any combination could get you there. Remember I said if you find what you need and there is an over abundance it becomes easy to share. Right now I'm reading everything I can on torsion field physics hoping I can fire 2 perpendicular torsion fields at a glass of water to see what happens.  Hope I get a little inspiration along the way.

Good luck with your project!

Tesla didn't figure shit out that is not already out in the world today. tell me what we don't already know that Tesla figured out, nothing will become of your argument.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: raburgeson on August 04, 2011, 05:44:08 AM
He caused an earthquake with a simple mechanical oscillator. I'll keep it simple for you. let's not get into the fact that he swung the entire Earth like you would swing a transistor. That's how he transmitted power, why he was building Walden Cliff. Arguing is not productive. I did wish you luck on your project. Start light on Maxwell and Tesla and go onto the formulas later. I have work to do.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 04, 2011, 04:09:50 PM
He caused an earthquake with a simple mechanical oscillator. I'll keep it simple for you. let's not get into the fact that he swung the entire Earth like you would swing a transistor. That's how he transmitted power, why he was building Walden Cliff. Arguing is not productive. I did wish you luck on your project. Start light on Maxwell and Tesla and go onto the formulas later. I have work to do.

 There is proof my friend. But what these guys who come in here screaming that Tesla knew nothing of the sort. He definitely knew something even our own science shuns. He knew more about the AEther and how to modulate it so that it carried the charges back to the source antenna to collect and use at will. These other guys have no clue as to what we are talking about even though it was cleverly hidden in plain sight. He worked with super high potentials and super low currents of the "invented" current they use now and got real power.

 When I saw the message you left about the experiment you are gonna do I thought to myself only use the electric field. Regular magnetic fields will not interact with the Medium of the Aether without a push back. So stick with trying to manipulate the Aether to drag in the charges from all around it.

 Like I said devise an electrode made from Aluminum. Make the electrode with a ball on the end. Insulate that from the external ball of aluminum and insert it into a hole in the aluminum ball. Fill the ball with water and energize the electrode. What should happen would be the electrode will raise the potential of the water. This will cause the aluminum to pull charges from the outside of the ball twords the ball electrode. The outside aluminum ball is a static shield of sorts and a conduit for charges to flow through. But as the charges enter the shielded internal area they increase the potential of the water even further this of course makes the metal shield equal to the potential in the water and holds the charges via their own inductive value.

 Now the trick is to pulse the internal potential value till you get a harmonic response. This could be much higher then mechanical timing would allow. This I think is the reason for the spark gap. It can fire a lot faster at analog speeds. To control the speed of the sparks all you need is a magnetic field going across the flow that is created from the conduction space. This orients the conductors in a 90 degree angle from the flow. This causes cleaner pulses of pure potential. Varying the magnetic flow is how you control the device. Also I am working on another method that might enhance that further. If you squash two magnetic fields together it compresses the network in between the two fields. This causes the voltage to increase in speed clearing the way for another shot. This is much like the hose and water example Except it only appears to become faster because you are increasing the resolution that the conductor space is capable of. Lets say that when there is a pressure from the sides it cleans up the gaps in between the conductors and push them apart a bit in this process. Lets say that you covered a pearl necklace with grease. The grease is the charges. If you were to put a pressure from the sides of the necklace it would compress the grease and it would coat the entire beads. making the gaps appear more prominently. This is an exponential event. Instead of 1 gigahertz you get 1 terahertz or higher. This has to be used with a coil to change or transform the longitudinal pulses into an analog one we are familiar with by using the bounce back effect to give us Both positive and negative swings on our scope and give it more power by down converting to a higher concentration of the charges.
 What I suspect is that we only need to make sure the container has a bidirectional switch of sorts. This could be Diodes and why Tesla used them in the form of vacuum tubes. This would make the tube more analog and better able to handle the increased speed of the pulses because the vacuum is merely a space filled with only conductors of the Aether. Glass being a charge heavy source of Aether will not pass Aether as well and has a limit to the amount of charges it can block. But the Aether is still in there. Maybe at a lower amount seeing that it is an opaque matter. Glass can be used around the electrode in the aluminum ball or a special plastic could be used more effectively maybe even mica could be used if you could mold it around the electrode stem.
 How does that sound?
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 04, 2011, 07:57:01 PM
 I went for a walk today and it dawned on me how this energy is being changed.

 I have talked about the medium of Aether and how it can attract itself and cause a flow to happen. Now I'm gonna blow that out of the water and let you know how this works on the larger scales like solar systems or even Universes.

 Think of the medium of Aether as a gelatin flat disk and all matter is sprinkled on the surface. Matter on that level is always round in masses like planets or any body bigger then the smallest moon. The Aether is spinning like a record player and the earth is spinning with the south pole being the needle riding in the groove of time. Time is merely the grove structure seen from the cross section. Skip a groove outwards and you skip time, like wise jump a grove twords the center and you go back in time. Time is recorded and ripples go out both forward in time and further backwards in time. Just like the ripples on a pond radiate outwards or even the ripples in the flow of a river. For a short period of time the ripples keep going down the river and as it flows the ripples gently dissipates. And so does time. So time travel on the whole is impossible for our matter. But signals in the energy are not effected. They tend to stay longer and radiate back into the time grooves via the ripples recorded before or the previous groove. We could then take a receiver for say a signal and shift the phase to our time by intercepting the signal with the shift in phase and view it in our time frame. This would only work for signals because we can use devices to view with that see way more then were are capable of. For instance heat camera or xray cameras. But that is only speculation at the moment. Util my theory gets proofed It all is speculation.

 Lets take this further to understand that the matter that is rolling on this disk is caught but the sources around which the disk is emitted from. A very weak black hole in the case of our solar systems. These are balanced miniature blackholes usually of the outward kind. The in is actually tied to a pair black hole of the opposite polarity and spin. This is because the other black hole is on the other side of a spinning disk or opposite spinning disk that we have from the black hole. There are two different disks spinning in the opposite directions and matter is trapped in between these disks. The plane that is our solar system is the product of two disks spinning around our mini blackhole or sun. The sun is there by virtue of crystals that have formed that block the flow of energy or charges in motion between these two holes on each side of the disks causing the disk like suction. The pair are connected by humongous channels of twisted space because the holes are rigid in that sense. The more these disks spin the smaller the tunnel becomes and the higher the potential of the charges that go through those channels. The spin is based on the polarity of the disk. On the other plane the twist would run backwards from their point of view but look totally normal.
 Now lets handle times itself. If one looked at how the record player works one would know that the further out on the disk the more area it would cover in the same amount of time. This is why it looks or appears to be that the universe is speeding up but it is not in reality. Our view is speeding up. We are accelerating through time but our viewpoint is not changing. We don't realize that we are covering more space then we were 2000 years ago. Because our measurement of time is based on the nuclear timing and that is speeding up as well because all matter spins at the base between these disks at the same base speed. These disks are multi-layered and matter tends or stay within the disks on the whole.
 We have one disk being pressing onto the other These disks are not in attraction mode but repelling each other and hold themselves together because they are held by the bottle we live in. Very tightly where there is no matter at all this would be the vacuum of space and all charges flow through the squeezed areas and is akin to light like fiber optics working to squeeze the information it transmits and reorient themselves after decompression of the Aether where matter is holding it apart. for us to see in just about the right place it orients from. I don't know too much about this process because this just came to me. Where our earth is there is additional rules that apply and thats inertia and centrifugal forces and also magnetism as we think we understand it. Not by my definition. Magnetism in my definition is purely the Aether moving twords a higher potential. This allows lines to form and give them great potential to pull with. This line is dynamic and very very strong because it self heals as it grows pulling more Aetheric conductors from the condescension of unused conductors from the environment. Remember that the Aethric medium is spinning and imparts part of that spin to all matter because of the conductors contained in matter that matter contains withing it's own particles. Matter is just an anchor of the Aether within it. So it slips to some degree withing the spinning disks. Not truely holding onto the Aether for very long.

 Let me know how that sounds. Remember I just thought of this so help me flesh this out. Look for holes in there.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 04, 2011, 11:45:35 PM
 I don't know if the analogy is right though. I am thinking now that the Aether disk is not rigid in a sense. It is like a pizza when they are spinning the dough. Originally before the flattening out of the mass of charges and conductors there was a huge potential in the center of this mass, much like there is in a very very small charge. The strings are in constant motion in a charge and so is the charges in this mass of huge charges. Since potentials tend to center themselves with the highest potential being in the center of this mass. This means originally the lines were straight from center to outer mass or radiative. But something happened. The extreme potential in the center drew matter to it much like the static force we see in our space. Faster and faster this matter was accelerated twords that potential. This is gravity in the purest form. Once matter started to impact the potential point it created a crystal from the matter that was hitting it. This crystal shot the jets we see in the center of our galaxy. Matter tends to form on these great lines of potential and get pulled along as they move. Once the jets pierced the mass pure conductors flowed back to the source to replenish the missing charges that were being accelerated away. This action also started the great spin we see in our galaxy and it is what causes this great gelatin like disk or charges to spread radially out wards. Not only spread but stretch as well.

 Have a look at this:

http://www.kiwispaceplace.com/astronomy-guide-in-our-galaxy.html

The two arms that radiate from the center is the galactic spokes of our wheel and the medium is this disk that matter, even at galactic proportions, sticks to or is attracted to. I think if we are to find life in the universe it would also be in the grove much like we are settled into.

 This disk spins way faster then matter can go but it still rolls it along imparting it's energy to it. But the crystals are getting bigger in the center portion of our galaxy. As they get bigger they spin the galaxy faster and we go further away from the center where time is faster or advances more of the Aether through that same time. Things a long time ago grew to mammoth size because the real time was flowing slower meaning matter spun slowly and decayed less. See the Aether does affect matter but it is a subtle effect. Think about this. If matter is spinning merely because it is rolling on the disk via the skin effect then it makes sense that the further you get out of the disk the faster the matter has to roll to cover the same time frame. Since matter is spinning faster we do not see the change in the time but yet more Aether flows by the matter. This wears matter faster and spins up the processes so we don't perceive the change in time. So a second today will see more Aether then a second a million years ago would traverse. We didn't see this effect because we knew little of the Aether and then when we did know we disregarded it because there is no way to see it except for looking for the effects and hence no way to prove it.

 That is why we are on a plane so to speak or disk. I believe that we could pull our solar system closer to the center of our galaxy and restore time to become longer. Both lengthening our life spans and fixing the damage it is doing to our matter and the environment. Now how does one accomplish this. Well what is holding us to this solar system. Potential, a huge amount of it would yank us back twords the center of our galaxy to where it was in neolithic time. When I say yank and us I mean our solar system because it is all connected. That is evident by how it stays spinning. raise our potential even on our planet and it feeds back to our anchor the sun. This quiets the sun because we are now rejecting more of the output of the sun and causing it to increase inside the sun giving the sun the ability to draw us back up the line twords the center.
 I think this was the original idea behind the pyramids. If we could beam back the energy we capture that would be enough to raise the suns potential and attract us back twords the center potential. This would take a lot of time to accomplish and a greater understanding of the events happening in our universe. What I have wrote down here is merely simplistic ideas all supporting the same thing the Aether. We need this advancement and we need to understand that energy is freely flowing all around us. We figure that mechanic out and we can generate any potential and maybe rescue ourselves from the greed of a few manipulators.

 It can be ours. And it can be very free. if you know how to harness the flows. Tesla was a great man at that.

 Here is a better look at the milky ways disk.

http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/milkyway.html
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 05, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
 I think I should have said "If we figure out that mechanic of the universe we can Generate (channel) the energy we need to survive as a race.

 We are truly beings of energy in a matter casing. We consume free conductors for this to operate correctly and use that to conduct our energy needed in the process of growth and our movement of our casing(body). If you really understand the biological effect we are merely a capacitor for our energy and the reason we age is because we leak that energy. This means in the case of our energy or charges loose charge over the time we age. Our ability of our charge to hold our matter together becomes less as we age. But figure out how to add charge back to our capacitor and age reverses. We bind back together and our matter holds tight again.

 The charge we hold is essentially our soul. It is The Aether held into specific patterns. Our cells are our programming over our life charge or soul. The Brain is the control interface between our Soul and mechanical body. We are merely what we have been building our whole technical life. Computer/Robot. What differentiates the two is that our charge can be programmed by modulating the string of Aether it is based on. Not so strange when you look at the brain. It looks like the same thing that our internal charge looks like. Remember the fractal nature of nature. How key aspects copy from scale or resolution set to scale or resolution set. This repeating of the basis of charge makes perfect sense. So when people say that, we are the Universes proof of existence because then it can experience itself, they are absolutely right.

Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 07, 2011, 12:37:12 AM
 So I guess that knocked all responses? Hmmm...

 What we have to understand about this method of potential only is that it has to be shielded by a static shield. This means just metal covering the outer portion so that it keeps charges inside via their own induction. This way the charges stay inside the system till you want them to interact with the environment and do work with the flow you make.

 Tesla had the perfect idea. Why change the material of the conductor when you can change the way you provide the current. Or in this case Voltage with near zero current. All the current is transformed into this super high potential that does not interact the same way as a heavy current with resistances. In fact he devised that it would be near 100% transfer of energy to the intended target from the source. This improves the efficiency to only the device parameters. The conversion was used inside the device and drew in more along the way because high voltage attracts more energy to the system if you include an broadcast array as the collection area. This raises the potential if you understand the design of the charge pump action going on and coincidentally raises the conversion inside the device with the added charges from the environment. Plus there is the transformer action that a Generator/motor would provide as well. Kick start the process with a single battery like starting a car engine and brrroom of it runs.

 Well the motor should work as described anyways. The added stuff like antenna array is icing on the cake.

 This motor that he talks about actually works without using magnetics in the traditional sense. It works with the electric field. Which is an entirely different beast all together. The magnetic field is shorted into the iron core and only the electric field is used in the motor via induction and consequently lower voltage and higher current as the result of the design. See he figured why not use the magnetic field in a torrid. That way as it came up to power it would lobe out from the iron when the process hit a certain speed. This was a driving mechanism but the torrid allows one to just push the filed around. The would only let the electric field be the inductive field and if the rotor coils of the genny were much bigger in size it would lower the voltage and raise the current in the rotor field allowing to to lock onto the magnetic field spilling out of the torrid when it saturated. The thing is the motor ran backwards then... Instead of when you slow down the rotor it used more current if you slowed down his rotor it made more current because it would generate more current from cutting across the filed lines of the electric field the torrid was providing. He literally used the transformer action inside of his motor to convert the high voltage he provided to convert down to low voltage and high current Without much cost. Well it wasn't free but he could pull in more charge from the environment because the motor was designed to create a vacuum to work with.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 07, 2011, 04:06:11 PM
 Speaking of static shields I think I may have unlocked the Gray Tube. The metal grating around the wire with high potential is supposed to be a static shield and not a conduction grid. It is to let charges in from the environment via the holes in the metal and trap charges via induction provided by the grid around the wire just before the spark gap so that it could be extracted through the gap when it fired.

 They got it wrong because it was meant to deceive people who didn't know what Tesla knew ,who was a favorite subject of Gray. When you ground the shield the effect disappears. So anyone who has a model of the gray tube please disconnect the wire to the grid around the spark gap and see if it works as described. It had nothing to do with 3 way BS crap that others talk about. It is merely an inductive bottle with one way valves(grids) for free environmental charges to enter the system. You could say it was an inductive bottle that would compress extra charges onto the now conducting air in between the spark electrodes. Literally squeezing the charges into the wire before the gap.

 When you look at it via static laws induction pulls charges around in metal. One side becomes depleted of charges and appears to be the opposite polarity of the attracting static voltage. A Pulse in this case is a static bubble within the network. When the static shielding receives the attraction from within itself it makes the external surfaces depleted of charges and it draws a strong attraction of the free charges in our air. These charges get partly pulled off of the Aethric conductors and shuffled into the induction bottle. This bottle is self adjusting. But materials have limits as to the base charge level they have fundamentally and that limits the ability to provide a perfect transfer. I am thinking Aluminum is such a near perfect transmitter for this process. It reacts differently when exposed to a normal magnetic field then say Iron. It doesn't hold or latch but it will effect the drop rate of the magnet when used on an aluminum plate. This means it is only reacting with a certain sub component of magnetism. This component seems to be eternal once formed as in the case of a magnet. This is because there are mini guns in the smaller scale area. We do see this effect by using a liquid magnetic material like Ferrous fluids. When subjected to strong magnetic fields this fluid grows very intricate patterns that in fact look like what it inside of the magnet. That form is what gets locked into the matter substructure and creates the flow that never ends. Well until the internal structure receives a shock or external charges(Heat) are applied. These internal structures are merely a flipping of the Aether charges trapped inside of the matter. As we all know or should know is: heat is pure charges applied to the environment. Weather that be the medium of space or any other medium wrapped in matter.

 At some point in time we were cheated into being slaves for the ones in power. They give us little scraps of freedoms and that satiates us for some odd reason. We have been lied to and I think Maxwell was onto it all along. You know what happened to the other half of his equations. Poof... Right?

 We have had little clues given to us by the smartest man on this planet. He was so smart that he buried the secret right in front of our noses so that we might eventually get tired of this bondage we seem to be in. The system we find ourselves in is not designed well to stand anything but greed and it will fall. We are seeing this now. The government has stopped listening to it's constituents any more. They do what they feel is right and not letting the people have a say in it.

 So I guess it is break away time. We need to take back our land and start living right again. We destroy everything we touch now. We pollute our lives and never give it a second thought in general. Yeah there are some organizations that have helped clean up some but on the whole we just can't break free of the lies we are getting told. Then when they get caught in those lies from an outside source they say it is a matter of national security. Why is that?

 Our illustrious president of the U.S.A asked for help from the people and asked for Ideas. When I sent a e-mail I got an answer that literally said that they appreciated my ideas but they had a course set already... What? Why bother asking for Ideas then? Politics is a sham in the United Un-United States. We can't even agree on anything anymore. The congress is useless. All they do is bicker and let others bicker in their place. They are nothing but inramps to money for their state. "EVERY" bill has attachments galore. A cut to Idaho for letting it pass. Wait NY wants it's cut too... I mean they don't even care about the bill's contents anymore. Now they come to the table with a laundry list of attachments they are seeking. They stonewall the bill till the attachments are bonded then pass it to collect their dues. We are literally sucking our own government dry. We lie cheat and steal to avoid proper taxation of the super rich because they don't want to help out. This coming from the same people who made that fortune right here.

 We need a change. We need confidence in our government again to both accept that they have done us wrong and to fix the deception. Restore our rights given to us by the original peoples of the United States. Those rights should have never been limited in the least bit. If an amendment gives additional right or clarifications then they stay but limiting amendments are to be removed. We need common laws back and not corporate maritime laws like it is now. Prohibitive law is only for maritime situations. You might think that the united states is small but it really isn't and corporate maritime laws do little to help. We need to get back to education of even our adults. We Need to increase our understanding of this place we live and start to actually work on relations with one another. We are seriously lacking in our ability of tolerance and are quick to pull the trigger to get revenge for the ills that affect us. Instead of bringing us together and becoming stronger we separate and divide our selves becoming truly un-unified and weak to deception.

 Hmmm...
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 11, 2011, 05:22:25 PM
 I have had the chance to think about what magnetic fields are in my theory. If we understand the fluid laws governing this Aether you will start to see how the magnetic field works. If we channel the Aether through matter by aligning the Aether inside then we create more potential inside that matter. This has a fluidic response like and island in a stream. The Aether flows around the potential (electric Field) and bunches together forming lines in the Aetheric grid or network. This is merely a magnetic bubble that form around this higher potential in the matter. So the magnetic field is only a response of the Aether to flow around the object. A magnet therefore is a ligning up of the Aether inside of the matter and creates a channel and order of that channel as it flows through it. This is where the power is coming from in a magnet. Once aligned it does nothing but channel The Aether it's entire life for free. We are taking advantage of the flow of Aether trough our space and matter has way more density then outer space of this Aether. We have ever lasting energy because of this flow of Aether and how we roll in it as it moves by us. Time is there but it is only there because matter exists. Where matter doesn't exist in huge quantities, like in space, the Aether is less dense and has less effect on our matter. This is why our clocks don't match satellites in space. Time is relative to matter and masses of matter. The further from masses of matter the less the Aether ages you or spins your atoms.
 With this new revelation Black Holes start to make sense. The crystal is actually trapped there in the hole or tear in the Aether. The Aether being the boundary of this energy mass of (+). The hole is actually being wedged open by this crystal (which is just super compressed matter). The emission we see are the leftovers of the conductors being sucking into the Black Hole. On the scale of Black holes this kinda makes sense. I think this might result from the conductors reforming huge masses from the compression of matter to it's ultimate density. This might make matter flakes appear to have no signature at all electrically and flow through the grinder of the Black Hole. Dark matter suddenly makes sense. The matter isn't detected at all because it has no signature to speak of. Then matter reformation occurs and the flakes bind to the free charges that were also flowing around the apex of the Black Hole. The matter jets spewed into the conductor saturated space and flow back towards the mass of positive charges of The Aether disk this allows them to reassemble back into matter and now we have space dust among the many many different sized charges that form into the based components for matter. Gasses and everything that matter has organized into.

 I also believe that the Aether has a memory. Meaning that it is much like a record player. As it spins around again A faint organized pattern would have a great effect on the matter formation at that specific space and how it reforms. You could say History repeats till it gets it right. Slowly modifying itself the more it passes the same point,if it passes that same point. So you could say evolution is very true. All things evolve because they never traverse the same spot in the Aether the same time twice on average.
 I am starting to think the 26k year cycle of our rogue planet is because somehow it became anchored to the Aetheric Disk and it takes 26k years to complete one revolution of the Aetheric disk. Being the Galactic year so to speak when talking about a cycle of this Aetheric disk.

 According to Sumerian Texts the Annunaki came from this rogue planet. If they are anchored to the Aetheric disk then they wouldn't age at all and time would mean very little to them. They would also be moving much faster through space when compared to our matter. If we understand they are not moving through the Aether like us. They are moving at the speed of the Aether or close to it meaning that the Aether wear it little bits over eons of time that we see. They might appear to be god like if they slowed down to our speed because they evolved little physically. They are the first race and only knew we were here because of the great event that we crossed the same Aether at the same time causing a collision. They were curious about the origin of this collision and discovered another race in that investigation. This is where the Sumerian texts pick up in our time. The Annunaki were very very technologically advanced and maybe that is what anchored them to the disk in the first place. It could very well be they are not anchored but figured out a way to channel the Aether around them and stopped moving all together in space. I'm wondering what would happen to an atmosphere if you pumped gold into the Ionosphere. Would it channel the Aether around it as well? And was this the reason for them to stay here and get us to mine it for them. We have always known that gold is precious maybe this is where we get this feeling.

 This brings up the stories about Ormus. And what it really is. Maybe it is the distilled Aether conductors that they made from gold to make a shield around their planet and latch them to the Aether disk. Now don't get me wrong in this situation this would impart no inertia at all and would change very little because I would think they would slow down very slowly from the speed they were going but If done wrong like it was it created collisions with their moon with us. This could have been the beginning stories of the Sumerians as they used a planet as a vehicle. They could have ran out of Gold to power the shield and was forced back to growing old. But there was a group of animals on a planet that could be used as stock for workers to get that gold.
 Offering were merely them collecting the resources they needed for survival and the escape to where they wanted to go back to. They fully intended to wipe us out but one had a close relationship with the Sumerians. The author of the genetic code we possess did not want his creation to end. He wanted for us to have life and he bucked the powers that be and gave us a way out. Unannounced to the powers that be we grew into this society and it could be that they now are not interested in us becoming extinct but curious about our progress. Of course we having an animal code tend to create dogmatic religions that are only out to control mass amounts of people and at the time this was for a good reason. We created religions to help us by the dark times that all of humanity are effected by. Now that we are becoming more connected it is time to shed the Dogma and find the truth that was left behind for us to find. This information is buried in all of the contexts of our religions and we need to separate the disinformation from the truth and get back our knowledge. It is there for us to find if we only look and read without interpreting the information with our limited understanding of where we are or even who we are.

 If Christians believe the bible is the truth then they must believe the sources of that bible and the Sumerian texts speak of many of the bibles topics, almost in verbatim before the bible was written. Jesus knew the truth of the origins of man and that is why he held powers that mystify us. He must of had access to the truth and decided it was time to try and steer man in a good direction of love and peace. Maybe even prepare us for the truth eventually and instill a moral upstanding wisdom that might filter into our minds through powerful belief system that the old regime abused and manipulated. Jesus was a scholar before he was "Jesus" the son of god. His father held high position in the religious system and probably had access to the truth about man's origin. Jesus defiantly stood for a change of the old guard so to speak.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: Dave45 on August 11, 2011, 06:01:10 PM
Quote from: jbignes5 link=topic=11258.msg29

 According to Sumerian Texts the Annunaki came from this rogue planet. If they are anchored to the Aetheric disk then they wouldn't age at all and time would mean very little to them. They would also be moving much faster through space when compared to our matter. If we understand they are not moving through the Aether like us. They are moving at the speed of the Aether or close to it meaning that the Aether wear it little bits over eons of time that we see. They might appear to be god like if they slowed down to our speed because they evolved little physically. They are the first race and only knew we were here because of the great event that we crossed the same Aether at the same time causing a collision. They were curious about the origin of this collision and discovered another race in that investigation. This is where the Sumerian texts pick up in our time. The Annunaki were very very technologically advanced and maybe that is what anchored them to the disk in the first place.
If you wanted to setup a deception and you lived all through time what would you do, you would leave clues that would verify your deception scattered out through the timeline, be careful study this, and listen to that small voice called your conscience.

I really liked your aether theory.

Dave
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 11, 2011, 08:25:44 PM
 Well you got it.

 Yeah the Aether theory explains all the unexplained in our universe. Even to our own planet. Everything suddenly seems completely explainable with this theory in the most simplistic way without complicated invented math equations. It merely says that there is a geometry on the most fundamental levels of our matter and this gives our matter the ability of fractals appearing through out all gross matter for which we have seen.
 My theory is not complete as of yet but the basic principles apply to everything after that. We went in the wrong direction when investigating electronics and seemed to think it applied to everything outside of that electrical system, for which it does not. Nature works in a very different concept and one that doesn't need complicated mathematics to explain. Through out all of our history there have been a great many men who have pondered this Aether and I think from all the clues we have available this seems to be the best explanation based on what we can see and what clues those original thinkers observed throughout our history.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: Dave45 on August 12, 2011, 03:17:42 AM
Well you got it.

 Yeah the Aether theory explains all the unexplained in our universe. Even to our own planet. Everything suddenly seems completely explainable with this theory in the most simplistic way without complicated invented math equations. It merely says that there is a geometry on the most fundamental levels of our matter and this gives our matter the ability of fractals appearing through out all gross matter for which we have seen.
 My theory is not complete as of yet but the basic principles apply to everything after that. We went in the wrong direction when investigating electronics and seemed to think it applied to everything outside of that electrical system, for which it does not. Nature works in a very different concept and one that doesn't need complicated mathematics to explain. Through out all of our history there have been a great many men who have pondered this Aether and I think from all the clues we have available this seems to be the best explanation based on what we can see and what clues those original thinkers observed throughout our history.
I agree, on the shoulders of giants.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 12, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
 More on the Ormes or Ormus. This is what it is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnS3_DZWEU

 In the second part at 3:41 there is the picture of what I think this particle looks like. The only real part to the double pyramid are the dots. That is the real matter. The lines are actually lines of force as we put it. These lines are made of much smaller 3 sided pyramids. There was no destruction of the layer. It was a merging of a single conductor layer into another opposite layer. The lines just merged and centered the matter of both layers with both of the layers pointing at each other. It merged the single 3 sided pyramid with another pyramid tip to tip. The matter merely moved aside and fused together as the lines joined.

 Curiously this resembles the symbol on the ring of Solomon. They knew even then what this was and what it meant.

 This is why the layer repelled open. It allowed a two way conduction to happen and each positive side instantly flew away inside of the black hole. This would be the ultimate fusion of matter. And then there was a way for all conduction to be two way or bi directional. WOW.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 13, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
More on the Ormes or Ormus. This is what it is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnS3_DZWEU

 In the second part at 3:41 there is the picture of what I think this particle looks like. The only real part to the double pyramid are the dots. That is the real matter. The lines are actually lines of force as we put it. These lines are made of much smaller 3 sided pyramids. There was no destruction of the layer. It was a merging of a single conductor layer into another opposite layer. The lines just merged and centered the matter of both layers with both of the layers pointing at each other. It merged the single 3 sided pyramid with another pyramid tip to tip. The matter merely moved aside and fused together as the lines joined.

 Curiously this resembles the symbol on the ring of Solomon. They knew even then what this was and what it meant.

 This is why the layer repelled open. It allowed a two way conduction to happen and each positive side instantly flew away inside of the black hole. This would be the ultimate fusion of matter. And then there was a way for all conduction to be two way or bi directional. WOW.

 What I wanted to point out was merely the structure of this Ormes. I do not recommend the taking of any substance that has been purified. We get this naturally from the water we take in and it takes a lifetime to accumulate in our bodies naturally. Any time you try to accelerate the process you get abnormalities in the results. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS PRODUCT!

 This Ormes is just proof of the real structure of the smallest conductors in our Universe. We can learn a lot from this process and then figure out a way to harness it's motion for our own purposes for everything but the personal connection to the "Zero Point". There are a great many warnings that it is dangerous to our DNA to ingest this in concentrated form and even if there a hint that such is so it should be avoided. But we can learn about the ultimate mechanics behind the smallest space of our Universe by observing this Ormes when we add charge rich space to it (heat). If you listen to the chemical analysis he did on this stuff and the resulting observations you can start to see how this stuff works. It seems that through expansion and contraction of this substance that it forms an invisible webbing in the charge laden field. When it cools down or we take the charges away vie an area effect it collapses back into the pile in the same manner because of the attachment of the pan it is in from where it started. This could be a balloon effect filling the spaces in between the charges linking them together and holding to the pan by the link inside of the atoms of the pan. I would assume this is a growth type effect that takes many cycles to form a big enough balloon to make the pan weigh less then it did when started.

 This white powdered gold was available in the time of the Egyptians and was probably a left over tech from the people who wanted the Ormes in the first place. From some of the reports I am reading this white subtance is a precipitate of heating cooling cycles on the matter that is in the solution. This separates the conductors trapped in matter leaving the conductors only because the charges have been leeched out of matter through the heating and cooling cycles they provided to the matter.

 Just give the whole series of youtube recordings a good listen to and separate the bs from the facts. Facts in this case would be the tests and observations this guy saw about the Ormes.

 We need to also think about how this really works. Nature in itself is a set of very complex cycles. Effect one and they all respond eventually. Shield ourselves from the dangerous effect of the Aetheric spin totally and we stop time (Aetheric spin) all together for us, which in my opinion would mess everything up. But if we do it with moderation and merely slow time a bit by shielding a small fraction of the Aetheric spin and we can extend our existence a thousand fold and give us enough time to study the effects on a grander scale. How does changing one little aspect like our atomic spin effect the whole cycle? What feedback will this create?

 Some of the texts from that time are suggesting that whoever stopped by and visited did in fact have a hand in our design. We now are thinking on the same level. We are suggesting that we do the same as they did to us. Start life and observe it evolve to better understand ourselves and I think this is the biggest mistake one could do. Because this would make us gods and that is not what we are. We are human and we are unfit to rule as gods. We have messed everything up that we touch. No matter how well our intentions are, we always end up destroying what we touch. This is exactly what they did as well. From the texts of the Sumerians the gods they wanted to do the same. In fact if one of them didn't love his creation so much he would have done the same and destroyed what they created. The creator from the texts was merely a scientist that held all life sacred. So sacred that he defied his own people and set out to make sure we had a chance to survive. This is the Noah story we see in the Bible, Although the names and places changed the original story came from the Sumerian people. This story comes from the Sumerian texts and if the Bible is held to be the truth then the real story from which it came from is the truth also. So all you christians out there need to make a decision. Is the Bible the truth or not. If it is then the origin of the stories in the bible must be the truth then and the Sumerian texts are the original stories from which the Bible was authored.

 This is the link for Gilgamesh and the start to your own discovery about The Sumerians and who we are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 17, 2011, 04:54:22 PM
 Just to give further background to this Aether I have been talking about lets look at someone else's research in that area...

 http://home.comcast.net/~onichelson/Thermodynamics2.pdf

 And this is the patent that Tesla provided to us to learn from. Notice the generator field coils are on a toroid core.

http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-390,721-dynamo-electric-machine

 This was cleverly hidden right in front of our eyes because If the establishment were to know the true aspect of this patent they would have never allowed this patent to complete.

 If we are starting to understand what toroids are we know that the magnetic field is locked into the core much like a Pmh of Leedskalnin's fame. If the magnetic field is locked into the core then What is the generator fields working with here???? The only other field we have is the electric field. So that means the Magnetic field is Not how we accomplish generation of currents. In fact when you separate the Magnetic field from the Electric field Strange things happen and even in the case of current generation it enhances the no kick back part of the shorted magnetic field. The only Magnetic field that is present is the one from the rotor of the generator because there is a conversion going on or transformer action through induction of the electric field. Any magnetic field that is present from the exciter is shorted out in the core material and that leaves only the electric field being radiated from each coil winding around the toroid core. Since this field is responsible for aligning the conductor particles in between our matter if forms in lines but of opposite of the magnetic lines or 90 degree angle offset from the magnetic lines. So in the toroid the magnetic field runs around the toroid and is locked in that core. This creates super lines to form cutting the toroid in half. As each line starts from the beginning of the field coils it builds in potential giving  it direction for the super line to follow. This cuts the rotors coils in the same fashion but the lines are better capable of sucking out charges from the thicker copper coils of the rotor. Since a non magnetically shorted coil forms both magnetic and electric field lines the rotor tries to maintain the least amount of difference between the field coils and rotor coils. When you retard the rotor is cuts more wire and auto adjusts the strength of the core by increasing the current in that rotor coil. This process can extract useful work out of nowhere. And if we understand it is merely a sink that creates a vacuum of charges around the process. It is a very beautiful charge pump That uses matters ability to contain or even maintain it's internal charge via it's connection to the environment through the used of the base conductors that are everywhere<-Real charge pump.
 I assume this motor should have a fan included to circulate the air which has both a plethora of both conductors and free charges(heat) available to use and extract charges from the rotor coils. Any great conductor can and should be used. Gold being very high on the list but Silver could be used just as well for improved efficiency. I also believe that the higher the frequency of this magnetically deficient current means the higher the density per square inch of wire the smoother the resolution of the density  of the field lines. This should increase the capacity of the Super lines and allow for a greater depletion of charges from the copper, gold  or silver rotor coils would provide. A magnetic line should be the opposite of the electric field line. One being charge full (magnetic) and the other being charge depleted (Electric). With both lines being radiated from a source the magnetic line compensates for the electric and a feed back happens. But what if you could separate the two and keep one busy while the other did it's job and one not effected by the feed back? The environment would have to respond and compensate and Walla we have the perfect process of the perfect heat engine.

 Any load should be in between the vacuum and the inlet(antenna) of charges entering the system. From the vacuum to the load and including all the way to the inlet it should be statically shielded to keep the environment from supplying charges before conversion in the load. So in effect you never really complete the vacuum or let it become balanced. This redirecting is the loads job. I suspect the load will not redirect 100% of the charges and we will have a less efficient system unless we offer the best diversion to that process in between the antenna and load. That could include a special transformer of the same variety that he shows in that patent to better separate the two processes. This could be where capacitance or a specific type of there of would be used. This special capacitor was called a condenser.
 If we look at a specific type of condenser like an electrolytic  we find a great many things that now make sense. The electrolytic condenser is actually a heat pump, if used in the correct manner for the application.The problem is that most condensers we used today are not properly designed for this usage. They respond electrically to environmental heat. We found this effect best shown with the Captret which was coined by another experimenter. Although the process was looked into by Dr. Stiffler who noticed this effect before the other experimenter. I believe the original observer was Tesla himself but didn't go into it further because of more important discoveries. Although other capacitors show the same effect it is of a lower quality that they get a response from the environment.
 This applies top all capacitors except the laden jar. This capacitor when properly used and properly built with the one material I think would complete it (Mana, Ormes) would become the perfect capacitor. It's ability to store straight charges would be enhanced by the Laden jars design. Since I suspect that Ormes is these conductors condensed it would make sense that there would be a better storage medium then air. From the Reports of the discoverer this white power of gold would exhibit the ability to store the charges and transfer them back without loss making it the best storage device for free charges or the lack of free charges in the case of the motor generator. I still have to work that one out but I think there are tons of them in oils too. Pure liquid conductors. Could be bigger then the smallest conductors.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: jbignes5 on August 20, 2011, 12:22:28 AM
 LEt me clarify that last statement. Pure conductors of potential. Thats what these conductors actually do. They conduct potential and allow charges to drive that potential. If oils have many many conductors of the potentials it would make sense that they are not good actual conductors of charge. They can motivate the conductor to act like a vehicle for the charge if they are free flowing. But since oils have a molecule associated with it they bind the conductor of potential and only allow them movement within it's mass. This is what we see when oils are exposed to higher voltages. They flow but only within the skin that the oils provide. Viscosity is a rule with oils and I think that might apply all the way down to the smallest components.
Title: Re: Aether and what it is.
Post by: hacko on February 06, 2012, 07:07:41 PM
Today i read that H. Moray says "It is ions, not electrons" about the radiant energy use. I think Tesla patent/s have been edit from the US government. Maybe if we change some words in Tesla patents we can have correct circuits.
Is it difficult to measure these ions from the aether? Does anyone know how?