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aromaz

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2011, 04:47:25 AM »
@jbignes5;
The problem I personally have with your arguments are numbers.  Depends which glass you want to look through - all numbers are important.  You say # 3 for many reasons but let us look at some other numbers.

The number two is all present - opposites, polarity, good vs evil, light vs darkness.  I would say there are more of a two in any ancient writings than any other number.  What about #4?  Most temples were build with four sides as were pyramids all over the world, many cities, castles even houses.  Often houses were actually circular - the concept of Zero though they did not see it as such except in Africa.

Is Seven not the sacred number?  The whole Talmud, Bible, Bagavatghita and Koran at least is filled with seven as numerical value.  Six on the other hand is usually reserved for death, satan.  In Buddhism six is the very bad unlucky number.

Eight which is 2x4 is not so widely used except in the biblical new testament where it is the number of Christ.  However, when you rurn the 8 on its side, you find it in all other traditions - the symbol of infinity.  How about nine?  3x3 or 3+6, 5+4 these shows the ultimate of binary. On its own it is seldom used.

There is one more critically important number which is not a single digit - except in Buddhism.  #13. Though many consider it the unlucky number - it has extremely powerful connections.  This is the number of the most powerful angels (Christian, Jewish and Muslim) - The scribe of God; who happens to be a human man.  Be it Imhothep. Enoch, Joseph, or whoever - his name is Metatron.

Even in Christianity - 12 disipels PLUS Jesus = 13!
Judaism - 12 months in year, but some years has 13th month - to bring balance between dates and nature.
Jackob had 12 sons of which one is Joseph; the one who saved all his brothers, without him Isreal would not exist.
Yet, his name does not occur as a tribe in later chronology?  In stead two of his sons are present Mannasse and Ephraem.

Metatron is the 13th; that is the one seldom seen although he is more important that the other 12 usually seen. 

(To continue)

aromaz

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2011, 04:48:10 AM »
. . . which brings me to the most important statement you can ever get; "The forces of nature is not singular - it is a harmony of many shapes"  If you are looking for the most important geometric shape, or most important number you are destined to fail.  THAT is the single biggest problem we have in science today.

Metatron has his own scared geometry which consists of 13.  Google 'Metatron Cube' and you will find many variations.  Within the metratron cube you find the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,12 and 13 with ALL geometric shapes embedded.  A uniform, all present, all encompassing single FOUR DIMENSIONAL object - it even reflects all from first, two, three and fourth dimensions and from there you can see the all important picture of everything we need to know.  also we can see all the mistakes ever made in science to this day.

Remaining is only one more pointer to make.  However much you are seeking a shape or form, you will always find there is only one. It is the spiral, vortex - or should I say - it is the Golden Ratio.   1.618.   The golden ratio has the Fibonachi and phi elements, it has all the elements of all geometrical shapes - and that is the ultimate shape you will find from small miniscule life forms through to the shapes of Galaxies - and everything in-between.
 
Aether is not a shape, not a number, no mass, no energy - it is a pure non-existing all present paradox which is the origin of everything.  In the Metatron Cube the Aether is also the sphere in the centre, the one on its own is only a void, point of origin - also the centre of nothing.  Without it there can be no cube, no triangle nor anything else.

Within water you have all (crystal) shapes, as you can see in snowflakes.  Within ALL elements you have all possible numbers of geometric/crystalline shapes.  In Hydrogen for instance we find - Hydrogen (Protium), Deuterium, Tritium, Quadrium, Muonic Helium, Hydrogen Pentium, Hydrogen Octium and even 7H. To date no higher isotopes were observed - yet.

The Aether is present in ALL shapes, 2-D and 3-D; but it is the new dimension of this 21st century.  That will be our lessons in this near future, the change of 2012 Batuun.  We will come to know about the FOURTH DIMENSION. 

In all shapes the Aether is the fourth dimension - the centre point of the complete shape. 
But there is a paradox:  The Fourth Dimension is also the ZERO dimension;
from the nothing (Aether) came every matter and every matter is holding the aether within itself.
Yes, fractal to the interior until you reach - the Aether; infinity.

Rather than trying to apply geometry, I would suggest looking at the application of FRACTALS at the GOLDEN RATIO when you are seeking answers; and seek to know more about the Aether.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 01:02:40 PM by aromaz »

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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2011, 01:27:36 PM »
 You will not find me disagreeing on your statements about the numbers. But one thing is clear the genesis of all matter seems to point to the 3 and 6. 3 being the base and 3*2=6. I am not saying there is no other numbers associated with the MASS of these particles, meaning in Masses these particles can form any shape and combination. It could be that the higher numbers are harmonics of these base shapes of 3 and 4. I do believe that 3 and 4 are the base numbers. And any combination of those equal the harmonic collections or masses of these particles.

 You brought up a good point and I hadn't thought of that yet because I was trying to focus on the basic aspect of this medium. In order to get to the basic aspect I took what appeared in the macro and worked back to the micro and below. Because this appearance of the basic shapes and geometry bleed through the macro scale I am thinking this is the fractal connection.

 I saw a very interesting experiment on the show "Through the Wormhole". It was with liguid silicone on a vibratory plate of liquid silicone. By using a tooth pick they could dip into the silicone and produce little drops that never would touch the vibrating mass of silicone that was vibrating. So it bounced like rubber ball on a very elastic membrane. The bouncing caused a standing wave pattern in the trembling silicone and it acted much like what I have described in my talks here. The standing waves guided the ball of silicone especially when other balls were created. I'm gonna see if I can find that video online. It completely explains what I am seeing for the atom and the action of the medium.

 I'll edit this if I find a link...

 Ok found it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toebBv_fAe8&NR=1

 Now in this case we could say that the surface of the fluid is the medium of aether and the drops are the atom.. The only thing is the medium is 3 dimensional. It quivers and the matter inside of it gets its energy from that. The problem is the quiver is super fast because the medium has no real limits like light does. The standing waves that matter causes is because of inertia of the matter in the mediums density. We can see this effect on the macro scale of our Universe but it is much harder to see on the micro scale because the density of Aether is so vast and moves instantly. I know for a fact that this is the reason matter behaves the way it does.

 Here is another experiment that shows what the dual slit experiment is actually doing knowing this new information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHHaDWEWtQE

 We have a lot of restructuring now to do to our know physics. We must admit that the ancients and our forefathers knew more then we think we know now. Why did they know more because it was so simple it was staring them and us in the face the whole time. We just like to make thing so complicated that there is no way we could figure this out.

 So Tesla was right all along. Standing waves are the secret and matter is tightly integrated with that standing wave. The more Mass of matter the larger the ability to convert that minute vibration into real energy. Because Matter has the Aether in it the matter acts like an anchor and ties inertia to the medium through it's connections in the matter and dampens this vibration that the Aether has. Think of it as a Super giant bowl of jello and then place marbles on it. When you vibrate the jello it will move the marbles without having to apply direct energy to the marbles themselves. Of course the marbles will not have the same rate of vibration as the medium it rests on because of inertia. Thats the 2d representation. Now think in fluid 3d.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 02:51:29 PM by jbignes5 »

aromaz

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2011, 02:33:24 PM »
We have a problem; we can't continue to work on assumptions or what we think from what we think we see.  Take for instance yourself.  When you walk, drive, ride on the road; what percentage of Blue Toyota Camry's do you notice?  Now, let us assume you buy a blue Toyota Camry - suddenly you will see so many more on the road.  I just went through a similar experience here in Thailand with the old 'Singing bowls'  I love them.  Been here for 12 years and very seldom see any.  Then I started collecting them - because they are quite rare; well that is what I thought.  Now that I am building a serious collection I find more and more at almost any and every market / auction I visit.

If you are looking for the THREE's you find them more than SEVEN; if you are looking for the SEVEN, you will find them more than THREE's.  Be aware of your own perception.  When you are healthy, few people has cancer; when you are diagnosed with it, suddenly one out of twenty has cancer ! ! !  What changed, definitely not the number of cancer living people.

THREE - yea it is an important number.  Similar to Tesla I do count often in threes.  I hate to go to the computer centre here in Pattaya - every time I do go there, such visit is forced-followed up with two more; every time problems with computer!  Always three.  But is it correct that THREE is the number in geometry?  No it can't be, geometry can't be 2D - so at least you must have four corners, four sides - that is FOUR? 

The Pyramids does not have any three in it - they are not two Dimensional.  There are 5 corners, 4 sides, 5 planes, 8 edges and each plane has three edges.  Unless off course you take the pyramids with mirror image where you will have 6 corners, four sides, 8 planes, 12 edges . . .

In life we say we humans have the Body, Spirit and Soul - three?  God manifest in three - Father, Son and Holy spirit?  These are all WRONG!  There is no three.  God is One. The human is one. Whatever the components are, all together forms one and they are more than only three components.

By the way, try to imagine a six sided three dimensional object.  Is it not a Cube?

Horrible as it might sound, my respectful advice is to forget about Nassim Haramein and his concepts that NEVER achieved anything but confusion.

There is no base number - unless you will accept ZERO.
All existence are shape and dimension - from origin to existence and back to origin;

Again, have a look at the Metatron Cube - and build yourself a 3D model.
Quite an interesting experience, VERY educational and amazing assesments will follow.

aromaz

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2011, 02:53:42 PM »
What I see is resistance; resistance that is caused by sound or gravity.  I have the same effect on water with my singing bowls.  Vibration of sound prevents merging, droplets dance on the surface.

If you want to look more into Aether you have to consider the origin of matter.  Aether is the ZERO, the base; the origin of all matter.  Thus it can't have any properties of matter. It was and is there before the matter.  You can't compare aether to water - that is wrong.  It is not a fluid dynamic, it is not an energy, it does not have any properties.

To understand Aether - you have to compare and think of Aether; not matter.

Aether is not polarized; therefore it can't be measured or observed in any way known to us.

When Aether is 'charged' or modified by the 'Sound'; 'Light' starts to form, it starts vibrating, becomes polarized and have a barrier between the two polarities.  THEN it can start to behave like matter and it can be observed and measured.  Only after it becomes polarized can it cause any effect on or with matter.  Only then can it be seen as 'the fabric of space'. 

There is no big mystery about space or the so called fabric of space.
'Fabric of space' is a combination of electrical charge and gravity, the later due to disassociation of matter.

This is the cycle of existence:
Aether
Sound
Light
Polarity (Electrical and Motion)
Matter (Magnetic)
Gravity (Decay)
Dissasociation (Radiation)
Seize of Motion
Seize of Polarity
Release of Light
Aether

Where the 'Sound' and 'Light' is not to be confused with Electromagnetic phenomena.
These are from a different origin, yet to be properly defined other than to say "God".

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT
Of course there is the other Aether - the one that is measureable with instruments; the one we use to send radio signals and shockwaves through.  That aether is a mixed soup of Electro Magnetic Gravity Energy.  I personally do not consider this the Aether as per original definition.

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2011, 03:53:46 PM »
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If you want to look more into Aether you have to consider the origin of matter.  Aether is the ZERO, the base; the origin of all matter.  Thus it can't have any properties of matter. It was and is there before the matter.  You can't compare aether to water - that is wrong.  It is not a fluid dynamic, it is not an energy, it does not have any properties.

To understand Aether - you have to compare and think of Aether; not matter.

Aether is not polarized; therefore it can't be measured or observed in any way known to us.
I agree somewhat.  I dont see the Aether as an entity unto itself. It may be a combination of forces with gamma ray bursts being at the top and interacting with the rest of the cosmos. Finding the source of these astronomically intense  energy bursts might shed some light on the nature of the aether. 

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2011, 04:18:55 PM »
I agree with you aramaz on most of your points. 3 can and will work if you understand the base of the triangle. It is that sole part that can make any shape in the universe. Heck it is even how we make computer graphics that look so real.

 And I hate to burst your bubble(ahaha little pun) but Water is the Aether. It is just condensed. The Aether is where water gets it's properties and since everything shows a fractal nature then water must be the key. It is the sole thing besides salt they we must have to live. Salt being the other because it is just another form of the Aether in solid form. Meaning that instead of it being made up of particles of gas it has structure to it or stiff matter.

 What prevents the merging is not resistance but Surface tension. It is the boundry between two specific densities. The Aether though would have the exact same properties as water because it is so finely crushed that is resembles a fluid. But if we zoomed way in we would see that the smooth appearance has order and symmetry and complete roughness. Although the parts never touch because of the vibration of the medium in which that floats. This process goes on and on.. The more you look deeper the further it goes. That is the fractal nature we live in. It is evident in anything you look at. You just have to look at it with open eyes. 

 When close to a great source of charges it's density is super concentrated. When it is in space it becomes fluffy or extremely less dense. This is the reason we have an atmosphere and it explains the layers in our atmosphere perfectly. It also shows how matter organizes this Aetheric energy and draws energy from the Aether by slowing the Aether down. When matter's density is very high you have less Aether and more inertia. Meaning that inside our planet is a huge potential. This is evident by all the heat and expansion of our matter we live on. and in the case of Blackholes they get all that energy by being made of the very medium it floats in. It is the perfect conduit for the vibration all around it but it has direction and can bridge the gap of the Aether in huge lengths. All the matter that goes into the Blackhole is used for growth of that conduit and hence can bridge an even longer gap as it grows. Unfortunately this means that eventually Blackholes will get too big and might even break itself like it did in the beginning of our space. Who knows there could be miniature Universes inside all blackholes that reach a certain size in our space.

 The Aether as I have stated is the background to matter. It is a component of matter as well. and it reacts to the Vibrations of the Aether. It is the reason for all forces(flows) we see today. Gravity and magnetism can be completely explained by the Aether and it's affect on matter as it channels the vibration of the plane we exist on. It is the whole reason why we have planes in the Universe and even our own solar system. Are there places in the universe that don't have the Aether. Well simply put yes because the Aether is a conductor of the vibrations of our container. Does it have connections to the rest of the Universe, absolutely or else we couldn't see beyond our own Galaxy. is it a straight line sight. I highly doubt it. Do we think we are seeing a straight line, absolutely and it is the whole reason things look black in outer space.

 One experiment that brings this to light is the seemingly random charges that appear then disappear in outer space. they are not appearing and disappearing in a sense. What they are doing is traveling on a conduit and happen to be caught in the detector because the detector can not go fast enough to see it move in real time. So it appears to be appearing and disappearing. This process can be seen in this very simple experiment. Take a fan and put it in front of your TV at night. Now the fan doesn't look like it is going so fast but yet it is. This is the same effect we see in those experiments. It just means we can not detect the charges fast enough with our detector to tell the true path it follows. We only get glimpses of it as it passes the detector. Little blips as it is caught in it's path. It's true speed is the ultimate this network can go and that is way faster then we are capable of detecting.

 If you get one thing out of the experiments I showed you from the 10k frames a second videos I would hope that it would be that you understand we as an observer are limited to our ability to see such minute changes in our space. We can't see the results because our own devices are limited to the devices sampling rate. We all to often say I won't believe it till I see it with my own eyes but I tell you you nor I would ever be able to see what we seek and then will never believe the concept because we can't loose that axiom we live by.

 This I think is why I can see this process. Because I let myself look inwards to the Aether I contain. I know it is there and real and I can accurately describe it because my own Aether is giving me the information. I then look outwards to see the effects of the Aether all around me and I see it plain as day. Not with my eyes but with my own Aether I can sample the proof and see it's affect on matter. I can see the signs and not wonder why the natural processes have this pattern. I have made the connection that our ancients made before they had Technology that was invented. They simply copied what they saw in their Aether and proofed it by looking for the signs all around them. When they did this they truely understood their place in nature and lived without harming their environment. Simply because they understood the processes behind it all.
 Of course some associated it with "God" and to tell you the truth as much as a Galaxy looks like bath scum going down the drain it would be crazy of me to deny that, that much energy would not have an intelligence about itself and the contents of itself. Seeing that connections are made over vast distances in our Universe we have to admit that in some way there is a "God" like intelligence out there made up of all the matter, conductors and energy that the Universe contains.
 We sometimes mistakenly think we are the top of the food chain till something comes along that is much bigger then we think we are. Most of us are vain and egotistical in thinking we know the absolute truth and yet we know very little of the Universe and all it contains, even today we are finding new things that boggle our minds. Would this be any different?

 Please understand I am not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to show you that we don't and couldn't know the truth even if we are swimming it. Heck we are made out of the very essence of the Aether and yet we have been taught to ignore our inner voice(Aether). It is screaming at us to change our ways and nothing will change till we change our views of us, our Solar system, our Universe. You might even say that certain beliefs in our history were very close to the absolute truth. In most of those believe internal searching for the secret was the key to enlightenment because the answer is within us and all around us. But since we have been programmed to not believe in our true instincts we ignore the facts our minds are showing us.

 It is being proofed as we speak that we are all connected. That events can be foretold because we can access this information. Not in time but in the Aether. All events would have ripples much like the ripples we see in water as a drop hits the surface of the water. It goes all ways through time because time is but an oscillation of the Aether and matter allows time to be a constant because it slows the Aether the closer you get to the center of matter. Matter is the true resistance of the Universe because on our scale matter has mass and inertia and it also contains the Aether which is how it can effect the flow of the Aether as a reaction and it is bidirectional as well.

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« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2011, 06:52:55 PM »
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but Water is the Aether. It is just condensed. The Aether is where water gets it's properties
That didnt make sense.
If the Aether is water then the Aether would be hydrogen oxide.

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« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2011, 03:19:48 AM »
That didnt make sense.
If the Aether is water then the Aether would be hydrogen oxide.

 Hmmm. So what is in between the molecules then? Obviously there is something there else everything would compress to the ultimate density? Which water is very compressible. What is that force that is holding matter from touching each other and melding together then springing back after the compressing?

 The Aether is very much smaller then the oxygen or even the hydrogen is. It is that space in between the matter That we are talking about. In that space their seems to be a springy like connection that conducts and passes charges even while in the fluid forms of water.

 If you say nothing then you have no idea about the scale at which I'm talking about and nothing about matter as well. On the smallest scales that we can see matter is suspended apart from each other. It is not because of some imaginary forces that we know nothing about. It is the connections that gives atoms it's ability to transmit energy or charges with.

 Lets see what I am talking about:

http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/01/29/wana-see-what-gold-atoms-look-like/

 This is the closest we can see atoms atm. Maybe there is better ones now, just that I can not find them or they have not been released yet.

 When I say condensed Aether I mean that is not connected to the web or network and has the ambient charge level of the environment. Although it is connected to it's own network I believe that in the case of water the surface effect is a small break in this environmental network because of a severe density change of that network. In other works the network comes to a bottleneck and has limited connection to the environment network. The network is made up of the Aether conductors and is displaced by the atoms of matter or held in place. When matters density changes from water to the air there is a severe density change in the network between the air and water. So water would have tons more conductors in between it's matter then say air would. Hence the surface effect. This goes for anything that changes density.

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« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2011, 03:55:14 AM »
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Hmmm. So what is in between the molecules then?
Its not water.

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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2011, 05:18:39 AM »
Aether doesn't even begin to work until 1,016 Tesla or above until the magnetic field strength is satisfied.

this was recently discovered, virtual particles can now be trapped into existence.

it is about how much energy you have to play with period.

you all think on small terms of energy and just not enough to confound relativity.

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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2011, 01:05:33 PM »
Its not water.

 Really. Then water as I should have said contains more of the condensed Aether then most other matter we can look at except for crystals like diamond and quarts. When I say condensed it means there is extra Aether that has collected there in between the water molecules. Does that help you to understand?

 The Aether is not virtual either. It is very dynamic yes but the base particles are very real. Just because they are to us invisible to our eyes does not make them less real. Because we can not see the center to the Blackhole does not make it less real. It is after all consuming matter and we can see that. We have to look at the effects and then we can see the origin.

 My thinking on condensing is that after a conductor looses it's charge or depletes a portion they can float down from the network and reattach itself to water. This gives water extra places to attach charges or network connections within it's own mass. The boundary layer is actually made up of these extra conductors and they filter into the water as the water circulates twords the surface. Water molecules pick up the extra conductors in this process and float to the bottom because they now lack charges but have more receptors for new charges. This makes them heavy in the sense of molecules and they sink to the bottom.

 At this point on the molecular scale, like particles tend to harmonize with other like particles. This causes a standing wave around the particle as the medium of Aether is vibrating and this standing wave is merely like the cymatics I referenced earlier. The medium of Aether bunches up around the particle making it look like it has a shell, more commonly called the electron cloud. This bunching up is only the medium of the Aether itself. But these collections of medium have great power in conducting charges twords the potential or charges contained in the matter shell of flakes. The flakes of matter are what gives the internal charge it's frequency based on the matter flakes size, shape and even dielectric strength. Harmonies form from all of these components and a particle maintains it's uniqueness because of that frequency and the other laws at that level. The shells are completely capable of traversing the shells and the less dense areas because of charges that get attracted to the internal charges potential via the pulsing of the matter flakes.

 If there is one thing you learn I would think that flows are the "Energy" of the universe. Learn how to intercept or divert that flow and you have a never ending stream of energy from nature itself. We now know that if you have super high voltages and very little amps you can transfer energy with out loss or very little loss. It was the one gift that Tesla came up with. If you are having a hard time getting power to the designated spot then just raise the potential and the current drops. Feed that over the same conductors we use on that scale and bingo near unity energy support. If you then lower the potential in the device then you get nearly all the force inside the zone of transformation. If we let induction happen and down convert that potential in the device itself, like a motor then you get more then you had to supply if you transmit the potential first in the air to the receiver then pump that potential into the device to transform into real current of the motor you get extra energy picked up from the network you are pulsing which would be the Aether when used via standing waves.

 The problem has been of materials that react to the Aether and that have extra Aether to carry the collected extra charges. Since Tesla was working in the fluid pump design he learned a lot about water and it's ability to transmit these charges to exactly where he wanted it. In fact I and other have done experiments about Water and the capacitor like effect it has. Even when left alone to it's own ability it seems to recharge on it's own. If we use this like Tesla figured out then water could be the super conductor of these powerful charges. If stimulated properly they could collect and store much more charges then any other device made by man and it energizes the water we would use bringing our environment back to the way it was by boosting it's ability to recharge the environment.

 I think aluminum is that material. I suspect when aluminum pipes are used it would extract this energy of charges and deposit it to the water that flows in it creating a turbo battery like effect. Simply hook your motor between the cyclic pipes and use a ground. Even a virtual ground will work like the body of a car. This would allow the body to spread out the charges and rejoin the cycle. The faster the water the higher the potential and the more charges it can collect. I could be at that point we need to direct the collection points like where the radiator is so that an increase in the flow of the air around the pipes increases the amount of ambient charges it will collect. Obviously a pulsing high potential signal will need to be used to stimulate the free charges to collect in the water cap. a one way signal. Thats where diodes and caps are for are for. I would prefer to use a spark gap and that will make this very simple.

 This is the same process as Dr. Stiffler has shown. But I believe that his process doesn't work well or as good as it should because he doesn't use a clean diode like effect. With the spark gap that is near perfect on via the break down of the air between the gap. This break down is actually more conductors being attracted to that space. The extra punch it gives is not because of the braking down but because in the instant of a micro second it conducts and goes way faster then it should. Ozone I believe is a result of the conductors being super saturated at that point in space. <Not sure about that statement.

 It might be that we have to stimulate the water inside the aluminum pipes via an isolated electrode with fluid dynamics design into the electrode to facilitate the fast cycling of the water. This way the aluminum is not directly connected to the aluminum reducing the risk of shocks. They should be very rounded electrodes that allow for the higher potential to not penetrate the water as easily.
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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2011, 10:44:21 PM »
I thought Tesla said ether has gaseuos  form ? Tesla also stated radio waves are longitudinal and Hertz wave do not exists.
Exceptionally strange it sounds but my advice : do not disregard Tesla statements. He proved all experimentally. In 1890 he sent energy of few HP to devices using Hertz waves tuned to his body capacitance, but later (after 1895) he used only longitudinal waves.

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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2011, 11:10:53 PM »
Study him some more and check out the statements about 3 dimensional lattice. The aether is a continuous flow of energy. The only thing that seems to offer resistance to the flow is a wall of frozen ether. See stiffening the aether with high voltage static electrical fields. What it is exactly I can't say. I think Maxwell and Tesla fully understood. I would be great to go back to the time they went to school wouldn't it.

If true hertz waves exist then  we could apply his theory of oscillation to them. It doesn't work. He didn't mean hertz waves don't exist altogether, he meant they don't exist as the standing scientific definition. I (think) he was implying that there is something very wrong about the description of the wave. You might like to check what Gabriel Kron said about electro-magnetic waves. Unfortunately the US government told him what he was allowed to disclose. Take for example the negative resistor he discovered. He was told to describe material as if only one element displayed negative resistance properties. For one you can add to that list iron.  There are some oxides that show some super conducting and negative resistance also. We know now that palladium has been manufactured impure to make cold fusion stay on a shelf. Without pure Palladium you can't make it work. Just a modern day example of the government hiding the truth or interfering in behalf of the to big to fails. They did this in Tesla's days too. They didn't control Tesla himself, they controlled his financial backing. If he had took it to court and made everyone pay as agreed per Horse power, Walden Cliff would have been built and the to big to fails wouldn't ever have existed.

Tesla's work is still top secret. That's an indication that it is really worth trying to understand, good luck.
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Re: Aether and what it is.
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2011, 11:42:40 PM »
 Yes well they are longitunal. But you have to remember the Aether planes are waving. It is the same process that happens all around a black hole. He creates a wave that looks like the sign wave on an oscilloscope but it radiates out from the center of the disturbance. The ripples in the Aether carry extra conductors back to the source. Think of it as a pond that is smooth and calm. Then start a drop flow in the center of the pond and all kinds of action radiates and rebounds all over the place.  Put a body that floats in the lake and it will toss to and fro. Sometimes so strong  a force that it rips the body apart. The potentials he used were so incredibly high that near nothing was lost in the transmission of this energy and the body would tend to absorb most of the disturbances. Kinda like the action you see around an island. where the island looks like the ending place of all the action around the island.

 We kind of use this process already but it is inside of a coil. With the coil being the body in the pond. The only difference is that in Tesla's method the body has very limited effect on the source after the source has discharged.

 In our futile attempts we usually don't get the process right and the cycle ends up being in the circuit. You need to stop the back flow twords the source so that the capacitor has time to refill without being effected by the feed back. This is another reason Tesla used magnets to "quench" the gap. Meaning it had to fight to get through the magnetic field and this also magnified the effect as well because of constriction of the arc space via magnetic field. I saw a demonstration once of a guy who took a ring magnet and allows a high voltage spark near the center of the magnet. It spread out from the center and followed a flat plane till it hit the magnet. It looked like an electric disk. Very even and very interesting. This process of "Quenching" is much the same as the hose and water nozzle version of my talks. Compressing the energy raises the potential even further and draws more to the conduction path. It could be that he put some sort of antenna buds around this area to lead charges into the system for an extra boost.

 His motor was also a very curious thing indeed. I think Tesla figured out that when you generate from very fine wires from a magnetic field you get very high voltage. Since this voltage has no real current it's kick back is very small as we are finding out. This High voltage generator was on the same shaft of the generator(magnet)/(Generator field coils/starter motor)/ drive motor. With his design of the ac induction motor it allowed the conversion from high voltage to lower voltage very high amps in the generator winding. If you shorted the winding the Generator field coils would operate normally like a standard induction motor but if you opened them  and fed them to the drive motor it would assist the whole process and drive itself as well as any load you wanted. In fact this motor ran at a standard speed and when you tried to retard the shaft it generated even more current. He said it was impossible to stop except for the fact that the winding could not stand that much current and usually developed a short if it was retarded to much. This motor I believe was patented and worked on the principle of the Aether or the antithesis of our magnetic system, or in reverse of our system. I have posted many links to this patent and will do so again if anyone wants to see it. The central rings around the rotor are Torrids with single layered coils split into 1/4 of the ring. This way the magnetic field is trapped into the ring and only the electric field is allowed to play with the generator coils. I'm in the process of attempting to build one. Should know if it works in a few months. I got a frame built ac motor that I am gonna get shaved down into a ring or round stock for the torrid. and use the core as is. I just need to make a break in the rotor coil so that I can open and close the coil to create the effect. I am also thinking that I could get away with a motor that has a lid that has two halves of the torrid. A split torrid would act like a PMH of eds once energized and hold itself together. This could make designing and building the motors very easy and working on them very very simple.
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