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Aether and what it is.
« on: July 26, 2011, 09:13:51 PM »

 I would like to open this discussion because I think there are a great many confusing topics about the Aether and what it really is. So here it goes.

 What we do know about the beginnings of our space is very limited but I would like to call your attention to what resides inside our own galaxies center. Very massive Black holes. In fact Black holes are the very things that give our galaxy it's motion and direction. So it doesn't take a very smart man to start to put together that in fact we live in an enclosed space. It makes sense that the most powerful effect in our galaxy is the Black hole and that we are merely in a much larger version of that effect. Lets say that the Big Bang was actually an expansion of our space from a defect in the black holes mass. The defect happen because the Black hole got much bigger then the black hole could restrain. Millions and billions of miles of thickness shielded the defect area in the center of this almighty Black hole and it formed a very very thin defect layer within this area of shielding. This layer formed as the pressure dropped from the outside layers of this Ultimate black hole and allowed a relatively thin layer of crystalline material to form from the matter that was being slowly uncompressed.

 When the matter inside this Black hole finally began to sponge out it ripped and explosively flew apart, seeing that a Black hole is a mono polar entity when two like poles are put in proximity to each other they push apart. This is the same process. This ripping apart caused the relatively thin layer or crystalline material to detonate in the smallest particles know to the universe. It not only released these finer then fine crystals but also released the matter that was collected around the defect. That is where our matter comes from in our universe. It is what was left from this event. Also this expansion of our space caused a great vacuum to form as well and the finer then fine crystals spread out uniformly in the space that was created. It took quite some time for these crystals to collect and form charges.

 Charges are actually larger sized crystals then the medium we call the aether or the finer then fine crystals. The finer then fine crystals are the smallest density measurement we could make in the universe. It is the medium of the Aether. Charges are swirls that were left when this space was made. Like I said before they are fine in detail and much larger then the medium itself. So a single part of these charges bring conduction to the table over two points of the medium it floats in. When these parts organize and collect collect I like to call them charges. These charges are looped strings of the parts and they tend to look like a ball of worms. The mere fact that they conduct potential of the background or Aethric medium gives them some ability to cling to each other with the biggest pieces always being internal. A charge has potential because it is always in motion and that motion generates the cling. The motion was given to them to conduct from the very instant that this space began.

 Why does our space appear flat then? Space looks like it is flat in the same method that they thought that the world was flat at one point in our history but in fact space is circular. we live in a bubble of sorts but that bubble is bazillions of light years across. With the edges bending in great arcs back to the point of origin.

 Now back to charges. Charges or motion energy are self contained units of charge. They are what is inside every particle know to man. They bind the matter that was left over from the great unzipping of our space by pure motion of larger bits of Aether that creates an oscillation inside the particle. The frequency of the matter is based on the size of matter that was attracted to this oscillation and the potential it provides from the motion in the Aether. This potential is by no means static. It can be changed and effected but in the beginning there was not much effecting a change till this started to attract matter to the eddies of the larger Aetheric particles. So that is what we can see so far with our eyes on the matter scale. What we can not see is what goes on in between matter and that is the aethric medium.

 This process took quite some time and I suspect it is still going on closer to the edges of this bubble we live in. As this bubble is still expanding. We can tell it is still expanding because that is what we observe Black holes doing. So somewhere out there is the edge of the bubble expanding because our Ultimate Black hole is still collecting matter and growing somewhere outside of this black hole. It is the very reason we see an acceleration of our galaxy and universe for that matter.

 Let me know what you guys think so far. If you have questions then maybe I can help you find the answer. I don't know it all but this is what I can piece together from all the known sources of esoteric research out there.

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 10:13:31 PM »
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 1:1

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 10:22:20 PM »
"There manifests itself in the fully developed being , Man, a desire mysterious, inscrutable and irresistible: to imitate nature, to create, to work himself the wonders he perceives.... Long ago he recognized that all perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena. The primary substance, thrown into infinitesimal whirls of prodigious velocity, becomes gross matter; the force subsiding, the motion ceases and matter disappears, reverting to the primary substance."

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 03:33:19 AM »
 "I think therefore I am."

 I don't like religious connotation. I think it is all something that has been done a very long time ago and someone was taking credit for it. Case in point the Sumerian people have had stolen a great many tales and it was claimed by a religious body. A Lot of the stories and writing from the Sumerians were plagiarizer and called someone else's ideas and events.

 But The second is a good focus onto where this has been said before. Funny how that happens. Really I had no idea that was there. In all my research I have not seen that particular quote. Nice.

 So it is not a new concept then and it could back this vista from which I am looking into.

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 05:36:00 AM »
God doesn't stick his or her chest out around here, do you know why, 'it' doesn't exist. only humans fulfill there mental image of a god beating his or her chest, sound familiar. some make those actions seem like they are purely spiritual in every way possible, I call this a major mental illness. it is sickening.

leave your damn god out of sciences and physics period.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2011, 06:35:30 AM by onthecuttingedge2005 »

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 09:24:09 AM »
In the beginning was the Prana (living force), and the Prana was with Akasha, and the Prana was Creative Force...  ;D
In the begining there was Sound, and Sound was with Ether and Sound created matter...

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 04:53:23 PM »
Lets go back in time before the big bang.
Where did the mass,primordial soup,sound,or any other name you put on it come from? Until that question is answered correctly you can neither prove or disprove the existence of god.
Then there is the question of whether there is more than one universe.

Just a thought. Take a look at how a drill bit works. The forward cw rotation doesn't change but the materiel is tunneled out in the opposite direction and its cw & ccw. A vortex.

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 05:24:33 PM »
Tesla about eather write in this way, find in Lost Tesla notes: http://umbrellatech.lv/downloads-3/index.php

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 06:56:55 PM »
Lets go back in time before the big bang.
Where did the mass,primordial soup,sound,or any other name you put on it come from? Until that question is answered correctly you can neither prove or disprove the existence of god.
Then there is the question of whether there is more than one universe.

Just a thought. Take a look at how a drill bit works. The forward cw rotation doesn't change but the materiel is tunneled out in the opposite direction and its cw & ccw. A vortex.

 Excellent question here. I told you where this matter came from in my first post. It came from the Black hole that we are situated in. The matter of our universe was collected and deposited inside of an Ultimate sized black hole. We know this because right now that is what these mini black holes are doing. They collect matter because the charges within matter are attracted to the huge potential inside of a black hole.

 What I suspect is going on inside of a black hole is that matter is crushed to the ultimate dimensions that space allows. When this happens an ultimate crystal is born. We know this process works because this is how we create diamonds. But this crystal is the perfect crystal and is oriented in a unipolar shape. What I suspect is a pyramidal shape. This allows the Black hole to continue to strip energy from matter and eject the energy through the crystal leaving only matter to be further crushed. When it is crushed it grows the crystal allowing it to channel further matter to the largest end of the pyramid.

 Our space was created by this Black hole because for some reason an inclusion was formed in the crystal and when enough energy or charges was passed through this inclusion it shattered the crystal. It could have been because the matter at that point overwhelmed the crystal and enveloped it trapping the charges inside of the crystal. This is where the energy came from to create our space. When the shattering happened it created the finest particles one could think of and many many many different sizes of crystals. This event expanded the matter enveloping the black hole and our space was born. What is left is a very very fine pool of shards that are perfect energy transmitters. <-Superconductors...

 Now we can tell that upon the shattering of this perfect transmitter crystal that all sizes of crystals were made because that is what happens when you actually shatter a crystal in our scale. With the largest crystals forming black holes in our space and lesser sized crystals forming stars and planets by attracting energy or charges to them which also attracts matter to their potential.

 Does that answer any questions you might happen to have?

 Jbignes5
 

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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 07:18:03 PM »
In order to continue with OU research and the fact that ether is the main subset of all, I had to answer this question for myself and for my own perspective of energy production, etc. I have put a doc here that explains my views on this as, yes, if you can grow your perspective, you can widen your vision of how things work. For me, and, I reiterate, FOR ME, this has given me a new way of looking at the EE question and has solved many of the "unanswerable" questions I had with standard EE and to which EEers always have problems to try and answer or just change the subject. Anyways, it may help you see a new angle and even make your own.

It is located here so just click on the pdf file name at the bottom of that post.
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 07:19:57 PM »

 Where do crystals get their ability to form from. We know that crystals need seeds to form and grow from. Well this is the process that everything that we see is getting this geometry from. All crystals need a seed. This seed comes from the super fine shards that were created in the "Big Bang". This is where nature gets its ability to show geometric symmetry. The Fibonacci  sequence comes from this symmetry of the super fine crystals. Everything in nature including water shows this symmetry when it phase changes. The phase change locks in the symmetry from the lowest levels of matter because that is what it is floating in and when the phase change occurs it is because we are letting or drawing charges out of matter. The charges add fluidity to matter. It is much Like the grease of the universe. When you take enough charges out of matter it becomes rigid and non bending. This process is exactly what ice is and the physical hardness of water is actually condensed crystals<-the super fine kind, the real matter of the universe. The purest transmitters ever known to man. The original super conductors. The ID of god as some would put it. The Aether condensed.

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 05:04:28 PM »
 Just some facts that led me to this revelation.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/universe20110722.html <Water in space surrounding a quasar or black hole.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/news/H-11-248.html  <Black holes and their behavior on matter.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1008_031008_finiteuniverse.html <The shape of our universe.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/GLAST/news/new-structure.html <Bubbles above and below our galaxies plane<Black Hole?
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 08:27:49 PM »
black holes are not mass, but rather the absence of mass.

all throughout space, is not a true vacuum. It is littered with particles, dust, gasses..
It is extremely low low pressure, compared to our atmosphere, but not a vacuum.

in the center of a large collection of mass, such as a galaxy, or in instances - gravitational focal points in the areas between galaxies.. all of the matter in that point in space is pulled outwards by gravitational forces. This creates a true vacuum, proportional to the gravitational force. a "negative mass". The eather itself is stretched outward creating a litteral void in space.

From a gravitational analysys, the inward force created by the void, is identicle to a gravitational force created by a mass.

The galactic mass pulls at the edges of the black hole, as it attempts to collapse in on itself. In this boundary region, where the vacuum is collapsing, matter is condensed, heating up, colliding, stars are ripped apart, and recombined to form into new stars. Sometimes these stars have enough velocity to leave the black hole, and begin a journey towards the outer limbs of the galaxy. Particles and gasses smash together with unimaginable forces, and can force massive jets of matter and energy out of the black hole and out into space.

a good analogy would be the inverse of cavitation. (voiditation?)

inconsistencies in galactic motion begin to dissapear with the inclusion of "invisible mass", or "dark matter". This is an assumption of mass we cannot see, having an effect on the motion of bodies (and sometimes light) in space.

I propose that it is these "voids", these gravitational focal points between galaxies or groups of galaxies are instead, creating a 'true vacuum' in space, and pulling on the masses.

Mathematically, my proposal agrees precisely to many dark matter/dark energy theories. The difference being lack of mass, rather than mass we cannot see. This is represented as negative mass value, via a conversion of the force of the galactic bodies on the mean-mass-volme of empty space, i.e. - the energy of the black hole vacuum in relation to the reative gravitational force of the mass causing it.

Anyone notice something about the last 7-8 yrs of black hole theories?
You dont hear a lot about the "event horizon" do you?
  Why?  - because they now know that the original assumptions made about black holes are simply not true. Light doesnt get "trapped by gravitational forces" inside the black hole.
Light cannot propegate inside a true vacuum.
Light "is" light because of the particle's interaction with the eather as is propegates. When there is a void of aether, a vacuum in space, the photon is no longer "light".

This evident by the fact that nearly every black hole that we examine, has protrusions of light, and slower than light particles perpendicular to the gravitational vector of the galactic body on the black hole.

Furthermore, examining the velocity and trajectories of these protrusions, we find that the dominant gravitational force, pulling the protrusions back towards the galactic center, are vectored towards the BOUNDARY, NOT the center of the black hole. 9note the bubble-like structure discovered by FERMI in our own milkyway)
    This is key to understanding that black holes are not mass, but the lack thereof. The aether is pulled out of the black hole by the gravitational forces of the galactic body. This vacum is what holds the galaxy together.
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Think about this- If the black hole has a mass of 0
   Then where is the center of gravity of the galaxy?
  its not in the center - but in a ring slightly out from the center.

and examining this from the center of a black hole,....
     In which direction is the force of gravity caused by the entire mass of the galaxy??

      you got it...  OUTWARDS.

And the force caused by that much mass is enough to stretch the fabric of the aether itself creating the black hole void.










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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2011, 01:40:16 AM »
black holes are not mass, but rather the absence of mass.

all throughout space, is not a true vacuum. It is littered with particles, dust, gasses..
It is extremely low low pressure, compared to our atmosphere, but not a vacuum.

in the center of a large collection of mass, such as a galaxy, or in instances - gravitational focal points in the areas between galaxies.. all of the matter in that point in space is pulled outwards by gravitational forces. This creates a true vacuum, proportional to the gravitational force. a "negative mass". The eather itself is stretched outward creating a litteral void in space.

From a gravitational analysys, the inward force created by the void, is identicle to a gravitational force created by a mass.

The galactic mass pulls at the edges of the black hole, as it attempts to collapse in on itself. In this boundary region, where the vacuum is collapsing, matter is condensed, heating up, colliding, stars are ripped apart, and recombined to form into new stars. Sometimes these stars have enough velocity to leave the black hole, and begin a journey towards the outer limbs of the galaxy. Particles and gasses smash together with unimaginable forces, and can force massive jets of matter and energy out of the black hole and out into space.

a good analogy would be the inverse of cavitation. (voiditation?)

inconsistencies in galactic motion begin to dissapear with the inclusion of "invisible mass", or "dark matter". This is an assumption of mass we cannot see, having an effect on the motion of bodies (and sometimes light) in space.

I propose that it is these "voids", these gravitational focal points between galaxies or groups of galaxies are instead, creating a 'true vacuum' in space, and pulling on the masses.

Mathematically, my proposal agrees precisely to many dark matter/dark energy theories. The difference being lack of mass, rather than mass we cannot see. This is represented as negative mass value, via a conversion of the force of the galactic bodies on the mean-mass-volme of empty space, i.e. - the energy of the black hole vacuum in relation to the reative gravitational force of the mass causing it.

Anyone notice something about the last 7-8 yrs of black hole theories?
You dont hear a lot about the "event horizon" do you?
  Why?  - because they now know that the original assumptions made about black holes are simply not true. Light doesnt get "trapped by gravitational forces" inside the black hole.
Light cannot propegate inside a true vacuum.
Light "is" light because of the particle's interaction with the eather as is propegates. When there is a void of aether, a vacuum in space, the photon is no longer "light".

This evident by the fact that nearly every black hole that we examine, has protrusions of light, and slower than light particles perpendicular to the gravitational vector of the galactic body on the black hole.

Furthermore, examining the velocity and trajectories of these protrusions, we find that the dominant gravitational force, pulling the protrusions back towards the galactic center, are vectored towards the BOUNDARY, NOT the center of the black hole. 9note the bubble-like structure discovered by FERMI in our own milkyway)
    This is key to understanding that black holes are not mass, but the lack thereof. The aether is pulled out of the black hole by the gravitational forces of the galactic body. This vacum is what holds the galaxy together.
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Think about this- If the black hole has a mass of 0
   Then where is the center of gravity of the galaxy?
  its not in the center - but in a ring slightly out from the center.

and examining this from the center of a black hole,....
     In which direction is the force of gravity caused by the entire mass of the galaxy??

      you got it...  OUTWARDS.

And the force caused by that much mass is enough to stretch the fabric of the aether itself creating the black hole void.

 I can not agree with you on this. You say that black holes are not matter yet that is what they consume. You double talk right there. Light does get eaten along with many many other things because what is inside the black hole is an energy gun of sorts. This gun is actually a crystal with the shape of a pyramid. Why do I say that. Well because that is a crystalline shape. By virtue of the shape the crystal accelerates the energy it consumes through it's own structure. How do I know this? Well have you ever played with an electric lighter. That snap you hear is a small hammer like device striking the crystalline structure and what charges are in the structure are pumped out of the crystal. This is merely a physical event and what I propose is that the crystal inside of the Black hole is in fact being struck by the matter it is consuming. It hits the base of the pyramidal crystal a: causing charges to be pumped out of the crystal and sucking the now crushed matters charges into the crystal to replace what was pumped out previously. In that process a great amount of heat (creation of new layers of crystal) and other phenomena happens like radiations that squirt out in 90 degree angles.
 If light could not propagate in a vacuum then how does it travel from galaxy to galaxy. Of course it propagates or else we could not see outside of our planets atmosphere. Heck how could we see if we create a vacuum in a tube then?. The vacuum is space where nothing is. it is so very small in space that we could never see it but in huge quantities it adds up. I am talking much smaller then regular atoms or particles. These shards of whats inside of a Black hole are so fine that we could never see them. They are what causes light to propagate in the first place and it is what lets any force that exists known to man to propagate even in space. Electrical impulses can even get transferred because they are superconductors as well being shards of the most perfect crystal known to the Universe.
 If as you say that matter and light are not effected then how does a Black hole grow then? It gains mass much like anything else in this universe. Think of it like this. Whats inside is a channel. The most perfect channel for energy. It attracts the charges in all things including light because as we all know a magnet works in the same way. Space is fluidic in nature and a flow starts through the channel. But the channel only lets charges through and not the matter. That gets deposited on the big end of the crystal because that end has more surface area then the tip. This is also the reason it accelerates the charges through itself because when it deposits it whacks the big end and pumps the crystal. Much like a water hose when you have a narrowing of the nozzle a great force is created and an acceleration of the charges occurs. Also in the process of whacking the big end it smashes the matter and the charges are then sucked into the crystal and accelerated out the tip. This crushing also builds more crystal because of the huge pressure of matter suddenly stopping along with heat that changes the phase of the matter. The crystal grows from the base as this new matter is deposited.

 One other thing I would love to hear is what is gravity? Obviously you know but yet the best scientists refrain from answering that question.

 I would suggest that gravity is just the Aether moving twords channels or black holes. Yes that means inside our own planet is a crystal or better yet a set of crystals. We know a positive charge will attract other positive charges to it if it is bigger then what it is attracting. This is what is happening in our planet. There is a huge potential inside there and it is sucking in charges from all around our planet. It is what binds our atmosphere to our planet and nothing else. it is this flow of charges that gives us "Gravity" and it is only associated with matter.

 If you cared to look at the pictures and links I provided and then looked at the previous post about the vortex you could actually see the diagram being seen in nature. The two ends of the bubbles or even the twin jets comming from the center of the water mass in the quasar one shows you that there is an in and an out. Thats one thing that those pictures can not tell you on the first look. But if you look close enough the density changes between the two jets should tell you one is going in and one is going out. The water mass is a ring around the focal pint of the quasar and is a dead area where the quasar doesn't effect much. The water is actually ice or condensed crystals and I already told you that, that is merely a higher density of the Aether itself. It is there because the charges were stripped of the matter and the carriers(Aether) are left with no charges so they collect there and slowly gain charges through osmosis.

 If you have not put it together yet Aether is water without the grease (charges) and we are sitting on a whole bunch of it my friend because they where also stripped of the charges as they entered this planet. This takes eons to collect and our world is very very old. When the Aether gains charges again it condenses into water but of a lower charge value then when it came to us. Obviously it is not in the form of water. As the Aether gains charges it changes phase and that changes the form of the Aether into a gas then plasma. This goes both ways. Aether is in everything but it is most apparent in the form of water.

 Even the sun produces water. Can you see where this is going? The sun is merely hollow with a crystal or crystals in its center. Most of the research on the sun is now pointing in that direction now. whats collected around the sun is merely matter that was attracted to the very large potential inside and is literally burning the matter up slowly and changing from phase to phase. But as we have seen from watching the sun it is clear that a lot of matter is being consumed and recycled around this potential and is feeding the channel it holds inside.

 Lets see if that helps you to see the light..

 Jbignes5

 P.S. The only reason the universe is getting bigger is because the bubble we are in is getting bigger and that is because the Black holes material is getting bigger to. This is because of our space and because it is now pulling itself further and further out making our bubble bigger and bigger. I think this is because at some point in a Black holes life it gets way to big and the matter starts to collect around the black hole and eventually gets clogged and forms a crust. At some point physics can't account for the scale that we are talking about and it breaks down to a new physics where it has to have additional scale rules to be applied. Much like the way we have tried to deal with the super small and quantum worlds. The physics we know is only what we have observed it is not the true physics and the universe proves that because we are still being amazed at the things we are finding and how much it baffles our brightest minds when they do find it different then what they expected.
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