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Author Topic: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...  (Read 70647 times)

Offline tao

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Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« on: June 06, 2006, 05:03:30 AM »
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« Last Edit: November 05, 2006, 11:12:20 PM by tao »

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2006, 05:16:06 AM »
YES PLEASE POST PICTURES


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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2006, 05:34:12 AM »
this is really interesting!

the author talk about the volt to use but not the amp, i mean the watt used for that.

where i can get a cheap freq generator ? for a noob like me :)

I have hundred of neo round magnet (some with hole, some without hole, 3/8" cm x 1/8" and 3/8" x 1")
I made long time ago a motor that i call "spiral motor", was turning without any current 359 degree, i wanted a way to disable the last magnet when the rotor magnet was under the last magnet to lets the rotor continue, but coils over magnet idea was taking to much space on my design,

with this new idea its just a mather of putting 2 wire and epoxy on the last magnet of the rotor, i like the idea!!

for neo magnet, you just need to remove the metal coating where the wire will go? not everywhere?

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2006, 06:49:50 AM »
I would like to speculate a bit (and no doubt get shot at a bit). 

I believe that the resonate frequency of a magnet is actually in the Ultra-violet frequency range (or possibly higher).  I think that the 175-180 khz range is a harmonic that may be partly useful. 

Think about this for a minute.  Blue light is just below the Ultra-violet range on the high end of visible light spectrum.  Infra-red light is on the low end of the light spectrum.  Dr. Moray with his radiant energy machine, said that the light bulbs that he used for a load on his machine, had a blue light to them.  And the electricity had a high frequency to it, making it useless for a standard 60 cycle motor, but he could run resistive devices. 

The Infra-red light converts electrical energy into heat.  So the energy conversion chain starts with magnetism.  When you slow down a magnetic field with a copper coil, you induce electricity.  When electricity is slowed down with a filament bulb, it makes visible light. If you slow down light or electricity to the infra-red range, it changes into heat.  Every step is a reduction in frequency and a coresponding change in the form of energy.  Therefore, I would put magnetic resonance somewhere in the Ultra-violet range, just above the visible light spectrum.

I would imagine that is why we can not see a magnetic field. 

A possible interesting test would be to expose a magnetic field to an Ultra-violet light source.  Just wonder if anything special would occur?

Does this theory make sense to anyone else?

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2006, 11:14:49 AM »
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Simply apply a 180khz square wave current directly through the magnet at right angles to the magnetic field. Only a small current is required at a voltage of 12-20Volts.
this implies that the magnet must be conductive ! But most magnets are made of non conductive ceramics.

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2006, 01:51:42 PM »
Hi THEONE
Where can i find some infirmations
about SPIRAL MOTOR
I am surprised you have reached
359 degree turn.
Can you send  more informations
thanks

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2006, 02:55:08 PM »
its very simple, just for fun i made a search on google and find someone with the same idea!

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor

on mine, i was using attraction, magnet on rotor was attracted by the magnet around the stator, but at the last magnet as well, rotor stuck, with the idea of the high frequency 180k, if that work, that mean just a little pulse to disable the magnet at the end

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2006, 04:59:21 PM »
what you are using to put the 180khz frequency? it is cheap to build? i will not able to test it without that anyway :)


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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2006, 05:40:24 PM »
Well very interesting, My question is this. Does it take more power or the equivalent amount of power to diminish a pm field as it does to power an em field? If so, it's a wash.

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2006, 06:36:03 PM »
I see what you are saying. We do need more information however, we don't know how much current was applied, simply 12-20 volts. I imagine that the current value is critical, probably more so than the conductive epoxy, and magnet shape, etc. We know it has to be a sqare wave, which is an aspect of the current, and I'm thinking the amount of current also has to be dead on, to create these disruptions in the PMs. The current probably has to be able to break the surface of the PM in order to react with the electrons in the magnet. He mentioned heavy sparking on unshielded magnets. This may be the current doing everything it can to find a path since the magnet itself is not conductive. Perhaps drilling a very shallow small diameter hole in the magnet in which to seat your wires with the conductive epoxy would help it to penetrate, then coating the mag with rubber or another epoxy.

I have a feeling what's happening here is a shielding effect being created in the outer most material comprising the magnets, since the current cannot penetrate through the entire magnet, it creates a "shell" of strongly diamagnetic materials around the outside, effectively negating the magnetic field. However, note that it doesn't completely turn it off, the magnet in the tube still floats a bit. This would also explain why the disruption is temporary, because the material becomes saturated (electron spin re-aligns) again by the innermost material of the magnet once the current is turned off.

I have no such testing equipment, unfortunately. Not many people do. Since you have the nice freq. generator, I would hope that you would go and get the square mags, and epoxy, and send an email asking what the current is supposed to be.

If you got your info from JackH who has also claimed to be able to turn off a magnetic field with electricity,we can easily deduce it based on what you have posted and what he has posted.

Hello valveman,

The total basses of my invention is the fact that I have learned how to turn a permanent magnet on/off.  It can be done.

I can take any permanent magnet no mater how big it is or how strong it is and turn it on/off just by using 8 watts of electric power.  This has worked out using 1/2 in. dia. to 3 in. dia. rare earth magnets.  Just 8 watts of electric power no matter how big the magnet is.   The electric valve I invented not only turns a permanent magnet on/off with 8 watts but it also amplifys the permanent magnets power by four times.

These valves were used in the overunity motor that is running at over 500% efficiency.

Latter,,,,JackH


8W/12V = .66A
8W/20V = .4A

So somewhere in that range. (if you got your info from JackH)
« Last Edit: June 06, 2006, 06:51:46 PM by gn0stik »

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2006, 07:01:19 PM »
Ferrite is an iron based magnet(fe). So that may yield interesting results. However the author is indicating that it IS possible to do it with other types, so it probably has nothing to do with the conductivity. NdFeBs are composed of Nickel and Iron mostly so those are probably pretty conductive as well. Also you can get neos without the metal coating, some come with a black epoxy or rubber, which would be easy to remove a small amount for contact points) coating as well. I'll see if I can find some.

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2006, 07:16:35 PM »
This is an interesting conversation to read at this web site:

http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm

This was very interesting too...  Perhaps iron wire would be useful here???

Joel:  This morning before going to work I spent a little time and wound a 200 turn coil on the 3 inch long permanent magnet (alnico 8) and placed this coil inside of the larger coil (same as the coil I gave you). When this permanent magnet core coil is driven with my signal generator (.5 V output) at exactly 174.9 KHZ the output coil will light up a neon tube. If you get off this freq nothing will pass through the transformer for the permanent magnetic field cannot be overcome by the "feeble" input. Need some more investigation here. My intent is to drive the input coil at a freq that will cause a difference (beat) freq of 60 HZ between the input freq and the ferromagnetic natural resonance freq. More later.   ~  Norm
PS: with .5 V input I am getting out 60 V

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2006, 08:16:00 PM »
we can probably use the sound card output of a computer to create this kind of frequency more easyly?

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2006, 08:46:11 PM »
hum finally i dont think the sound card idea is good.. :)

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Re: Permanent Magnet: ON/OFF Mechanism...
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2006, 09:02:55 PM »
We can use the same metal coating, just cuting the coating where it is not necesary to isolate the plates, then using normal epoxy to prevent magnet to brake.


 

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