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« on: July 15, 2011, 12:31:06 AM »
A magnet motor that does not use repelling forces; the center gear (1) on the primary mechanism and the center gear (1) on the secondary mechanism do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  In the picture a green-color gear is mounted on the same arm as the gear with the two magnets.  An idler gear should be attached to a support with one bearing connection in line with the center axis of a green-color 36T gear and with one bearing connection in line with the center axis of the 108T gear that is the non-rotating center gear on the secondary mechanism.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up side of center gear holder.

A working prototype has not been built as of 7-10 -11.  I was concerned that there would be a lock-up where the outside gear in the primary mechanism turns the opposite direction.  I determined that this does not happen by testing this theory with the test device in the pictures below.  The arm seems to swing freely with little resistance when pushed at the point where the magnets in combination with the inner gear of the secondary mechanism would cause a pushing force.

Update (about 8 hours after uploading the first three pictures).  After uploading the first three pictures, I believe I have come up with a better design (see the forth picture, copy36.jpg).  With this design I do not use the idler gears, the green-color gears, and the shafts for holding the idler gears.

Update (about 12 hours after uploading first three pictures).  I believe the fifth picture (copy37.jpg) represents something interesting.  With this design I do not use the primary mechanism.  The primary mechanism allows one to use rotational force produced by the secondary mechanism.
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 10:24:27 PM »
Improvements regarding what I posted on 7-15-2011.
Improvements also can be seen at www.gravitymotor.net

In the pictures the fourth gear has been left off to make understanding easier.  A magnet motor that does not use repelling forces; the center gear (1) on the primary mechanism (first picture) and the center gear (1) on the secondary mechanism (second picture) do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  The 240-60-60-300 gear ratio seems to be correct.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up-side of center gear holder.  A prototype has not been built as of 7-10-2011.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 05:47:41 AM »
W = Fs

W = work
F = force
s = path length of circular movement

Work done by torque can be defined as force and path length of circular movement (W = Fs) where F = force and s = path length of circular movement.  When F is a constant magnitude applied perpendicularly to a lever arm and when s is the path length of the circular movement (circular arc s) the work done is W = Fs.

If a prototype magnet motor without repelling magnetic force were built that had normal rotation regarding arms connected to gears and magnets, in order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets would equal zero.  Work (as defined by the equation W = Fs) does not occur without circular movement.

In the case of my magnet motor, the primary mechanism allows gears and magnets to move along a circular path between the two circular rings without normal rotation regarding the arms connected to gears and magnets.  In order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, movement regarding gears and magnets can not equal zero.  In order for magnets to stay in the center of two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets must occur.  When there is force (static magnetic pull) and circular movement, work occurs.

The normal problem with an attempt to build a magnet motor without repelling magnetic force is that after the initial movement, there is not movement.  Work (W = Fs) does not occur if there is force (static magnetic pull) without path length of circular movement.  The key to the success of my magnet motor is the primary mechanism that makes possible both force (static magnetic pull) and movement regarding gears and magnets during regular operation of the magnet motor.



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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 08:09:57 PM »
Constructing a Magnet Motor

If one were to use a design with one or more primary mechanisms as described above to build a magnet motor, probably it would be better to have two primary mechanisms, one on each side of the secondary mechanism with each arm attached to both primary mechanisms.

Work done by torque can be defined as force and path length of circular movement (W = Fs) where F = force and s = path length of circular movement.  When F is a constant magnitude applied perpendicularly to a lever arm and when s is the path length of the circular movement (circular arc s) the work done is W = Fs.  With two primary mechanisms the rigidity and stability of the arm holding the gear with the magnets would be much better, and the path of the circular movement of the magnets can be more precise.

If a prototype magnet motor without repelling magnetic force were built that had normal rotation regarding arms connected to gears and magnets, in order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets would equal zero.  Work (as defined by the equation W = Fs) does not occur without circular movement.

In the case of my magnet motor, the primary mechanism allows gears and magnets to move along a circular path between the two circular rings without normal rotation regarding the arms connected to gears and magnets.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, movement regarding gears and magnets can not equal zero.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets must occur.  When there is force (static magnetic pull) and circular movement, work occurs.  With two primary mechanisms the rigidity and stability of the arm holding the gear with the magnets would be much better, and the variation in the distance between a magnet and a ring would be less.

The normal problem with an attempt to build a magnet motor without repelling magnetic force is that after the initial movement, there is not movement.  Work (W = Fs) does not occur if there is force (static magnetic pull) without path length of circular movement.  The key to the success of my magnet motor is the primary mechanism that makes possible both force (static magnetic pull) and movement regarding gears and magnets during regular operation of the magnet motor.

The pull of a magnet varies with the inverse of the square of the distance between the magnet and the metal being pulled.  At 1/16 inch the pull of a magnet is four times the pull of the magnet at 1/8 inch.  Using two primary mechanisms makes possible the use of stronger magnets and more precise movement of gears and magnets, resulting in more power because of stronger magnets and resulting in more power because of a smaller distance between magnets and steel rings.

I bought a vertical lathe on Ebay for $2,600 in 2005 (including free loading).  The lathe weighs 33,000 pounds, and has a 48-inch chuck and a 54-inch swing.  The 1960 Schiess Model KE125 single column vertical turret lathe (made in Germany and purchased for $40,000 in 1980 by the seller) was said to be in good working condition when it was replaced by a CNC lathe in 2003.  I can make precise rings four feet in diameter with this machine.  I have seen pictures of Schiess machines much bigger than this that could have been used to make huge rings for magnet-motor-powered "flying saucers" in the 1950's.  With enough rigidity and stability along with precise rings, I hope to get down to a distance of .031 of an inch regarding the distance between magnets and steel rings.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 05:31:13 PM »
If one were to use a design with one or more primary mechanisms as described above to build a magnet motor, probably it would be better to have two primary mechanisms, one on each side of the secondary mechanism for better support of the magnets.  Because of the action of the secondary mechanism, it is hoped that just one arm from each of the primary mechanisms would be needed to connect primary mechanisms to a secondary mechanism.

The pull of a magnet varies inversely with the square of the distance between the magnet and the metal being pulled.  At 1/16 inch the pull of a magnet is four times the pull of the magnet at 1/8 inch.  Using two primary mechanisms makes possible the use of stronger magnets and more precise movement of gears and magnets, resulting in more power because of stronger magnets and resulting in more power because of a smaller distance between magnets and steel rings.

Video of Prototype of Primary Mechanism
http://flash1.gravlab.com/biblefirst/10270.htm

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 07:15:23 PM »
Drawing of magnet motor with secondary mechanism on top of primary mechanism.

The center gear does not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  The 300:60 gear ratio is a guess.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up-side of center gear holder.

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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 11:47:54 PM »
Drawing of magnet motor with secondary mechanism above primary mechanism.

In this case the secondary mechanism has two 300T gears and bearing assemblies, and a 60T center gear that is above a 70T center gear that is part of the primary mechanism.  The center gears do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  The 300 : 60 gear ratio is a guess.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod attached to up-side of center gear holder.

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 07:15:55 PM »
(Seems design in top picture will work because gear positions and 200:75:300 gear actions seem right.  Seems design in bottom picture will not work because gear positions and 300:60 gear actions seem wrong.)  In the bottom picture the secondary mechanism is above the primary mechanism.  The secondary mechanism has two 300T gears and bearing assemblies, and a 60T center gear that is above a 70T center gear that is part of the primary mechanism.  The center gears do not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  The 300 : 60 gear ratio is a guess (seems this gear action will not work).  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 05:19:31 AM »
It seems the design in top pictures will work.  It seems the  design in bottom picture will not work.  In the top pictures the touch point of the 300T gear always is the 9 o'clock position; the 300T gear must rotate 90 degrees in relation to the touch point if the 300T gear goes 1/4 the circumference of the 200T gear in order for the magnets to stay in the center between the two stationary mental rings; this rotation allows work to happen, and the motor works.  In the bottom picture the touch point of the 300T gear moves from the 9 o'clock position to the 12 o'clock position if the 300T gear goes 1/4 the circumference of the 60T gear; the 300T gear must not rotate in relation to the touch point in order for the magnets to stay in the center between the two stationary mental rings; without rotation work will not happen, and the motor does not work.

W = Fs
W = work
F = force
s = path length of circular movement

Work done by torque can be defined as force and path length of circular movement (W = Fs) where F = force and s = path length of circular movement.  When F is a constant magnitude applied perpendicularly to a lever arm and when s is the path length of the circular movement (circular arc s) the work done is W = Fs.

If a prototype magnet motor without repelling magnetic force were built that had normal rotation regarding arms connected to gears and magnets, in order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets would equal zero.  Work (as defined by the equation W = Fs) does not occur without circular movement.

In the case of my magnet motor, the primary mechanism allows gears and magnets to move along a circular path between two circular rings without normal rotation regarding the arms connected to gears and magnets.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, movement regarding gears and magnets can not equal zero.  In order for magnets to stay in the center between two circular rings, circular movement regarding gears and magnets must occur.  When there is force (static magnetic pull) and circular movement, work occurs.

The normal problem with an attempt to build a magnet motor without repelling magnetic force is that after the initial movement, there is not movement.  Work (W = Fs) does not occur if there is force (static magnetic pull) without path length of circular movement.  The key to the success of my magnet motor is the primary mechanism that makes possible both force (static magnetic pull) and path length of circular movement regarding gears and magnets during regular operation of the magnet motor.

The pull of a magnet varies inversely with the square of the distance between the magnet and the metal being pulled.  At 1/16 inch the pull of a magnet is four times the pull of the magnet at 1/8 inch.

I bought a vertical lathe on Ebay for $2,600 in 2005 (including free loading).  The lathe weighs 33,000 pounds, and has a 48-inch chuck and a 54-inch swing.  The 1960 Schiess Model KE125 single column vertical turret lathe (made in Germany and purchased for $40,000 in 1980 by the seller) was said to be in good working condition when it was replaced by a CNC lathe in 2003.  I can make precise rings four feet in diameter with this machine.  I have seen pictures of Schiess machines much bigger than this that could have been used to make huge rings for a magnet-motor-powered "flying saucer" in the 1950's.  With enough rigidity and stability along with precise rings, I hope to get down to a distance of .031 of an inch regarding the distance between magnets and steel rings.

In physics we say work is done when energy is transferred in or out of a system; work is the transfer of energy.  Work occurs when a force causes energy to go in or out of a system.  The amount of work is force times distance (amount of work = force x distance).  In physics, the amount of mechanical work is the amount of energy transferred by a force acting through a distance in the direction of the force.  Like energy, mechanical work is a scalar quantity.

In physics we say energy is an indirectly observed quantity.  One definition of energy is the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems.  Since work is defined as a force acting through a distance (a length of space) this definition of energy defines energy as being equivalent to the ability to exert pulls or pushes against the basic forces of nature, along a path of a certain length.

In physics we say a force is any influence that causes a free body to undergo a change in speed, a change in direction, or a change in shape.  A force has both magnitude and direction, making it a vector quantity.
 

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 12:05:28 AM »
A simplified version of a magnet motor (without a primary mechanism) that does not use repelling forces; the 200T gear does not rotate; the other gears rotate.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod.

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 05:53:07 PM »
A simplified version of a magnet motor (with a primary mechanism) that does not use repelling forces; the 300T gear on the left side does not rotate in relation to the arm the 300T gear is on (the moving arm of the primary mechanism); the other gears on the moving arm of the primary mechanism rotate except for the center gear that does not rotate in relation to the base holding the moving arm of the primary mechanism.  Because of this arrangement, moving magnets should be in power positions in relation to stationary metal rings all the way around the circle.  Green dots = magnets attached to gears 2 inches above gears; blue dots = magnets attached to gears 6 inches above gears; inside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 2 inches above gears; outside circle = two-inch-wide steel ring 6 inches above gears.  Motor is started and stopped by turning the two-inch-wide steel rings attached to supports attached to nuts that are on 1-inch thread rod.

The diameter (from center to center) of the circle of the 300T gear going around the stationary ball bearing turning mechanism on the left should be the same as the diameter (from center to center) of the circle of the 300T gear going around the stationary ball bearing turning mechanism on the right.  The size of the diameter of the circle of the 300T gear on the left can be adjusted by changing the diameter of the regular gears on the arm of the primary mechanism (not including the 300T gear).  The size of the diameter of the circle of the 300T gear on the right can be adjusted by changing the distance between the 300T gears on the right.  The green gear connecting the two 300T gears can have any number of gear teeth; three gears can be used instead of one gear if this is necessary for clearance.

This design seems to be the only design I have done regarding a magnet motor without repelling forces that does not involve problems getting gears to fit where the design indicates the gears are supposed to be.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2011, 01:13:24 AM »
Since the two 300T gears are rotating in the same direction and at the same speed, and since each of the two 300T gears move in a circle of equal diameter, it seems one 300T gear could be used for both the primary mechanism and the secondary mechanism.  The secondary mechanism could be mounted directly over the primary mechanism with one shaft connecting the 300T gear to both the secondary mechanism and the primary mechanism.

 

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