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Author Topic: Free Energy From Diodes  (Read 50724 times)

schuler

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Free Energy From Diodes
« on: July 14, 2011, 10:33:27 AM »
 :) Hi. :)

I've being doing experiments with diodes. My experiments include LEDs and germanium diodes. My interest results from the fact that we are constantly immersed in an environment full of electromagnetic waves that include radio waves and light. I've decided to document my experiments in the hope someone may find them useful. It may be possible that my results are obvious to some of you. But that might not be the case to all of you. So, here we go.

My curiosity about diodes started when I first read about the "Diode Storm" work. It's about shielded diodes producing power. Because I don't live in an shielded environment, I've decided to do some experiments in an electromagnetic noisy environment. Pages regarding Diode Storm work disappeared from the website (maybe pages have been moved to another place). I hope the author hasn't been killed by powerfull corporations.

When I started to record 100mV, I thought my results were uninteresting. But then I discovered my results were not so bad when comparing to results obtained by others. I've tried a bunch of diodes and I've concluded that the winner is (the best diode is): well, you can have a look at my conclusions at:

http://schulers.com/jpss/estudos/diodes/

 ::) I hope you'll enjoy.  ::)

JP

gyulasun

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 12:46:45 PM »
Hi,

Why do not you turn to so called photo diodes, designed specially for light convertion into electron current.
Here is a data sheet at random, this diode gives 430mV open voltage for a normal (1000 lux) light intensity:
http://catalog.osram-os.com/media/_en/Graphics/00042727_0.pdf  Farnell still has it (www.farnell.com).

Of course there are many other types, including photovoltaic (solar) cells.

Regarding your nice experiments and findings, I suggest testing diodes with glass or opac bodies that covered with dark paint against light: when you scrape off the paint you would find higher sensitivity.

rgds,  Gyula

IotaYodi

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 04:33:05 PM »
Interesting. I have a question on the use of a solar fence charger. This charger can operate for 2 weeks without sun. It is a 6 volt, 10 amp battery with a pulsed DC output at 1-second intervals with .15 joules and a voltage output around 8500 volts. Could this be used with high voltage diodes to produce a few amps?

schuler

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2011, 10:13:26 AM »
Dear gyulasun,
Thank you for the ideas. I'm including them in my  :D shopping list  :D.

I'll include them in my next batch of experiments.

gyulasun

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2011, 08:48:09 PM »
Interesting. I have a question on the use of a solar fence charger. This charger can operate for 2 weeks without sun. It is a 6 volt, 10 amp battery with a pulsed DC output at 1-second intervals with .15 joules and a voltage output around 8500 volts. Could this be used with high voltage diodes to produce a few amps?

Hi,

You surely know Joule is Wattsecond i.e. 1 Watt power is used in 1 second.
You wrote  .15 Joule which then means 150 milliWatt in second.
If this  .15 Joule is the energy fed into the fence and the 8500V means the voltage level associated with this energy to give a certain (small) shock to the animals, then the current involved for 1 second is I= .15/8500=1.76*10-5 Amper i.e. 17.6 microAmper and this repeats in 1 second intervals.  So no chance you could get Ampers from this output. 

If you could charge up high voltage capacitors with this 8500V (which certaily could take some time, depending on the caps value), then you could store some accumulated energy like in a photoflash cap and use it for higher current when you discharge the cap. In this case the higher current may mean Ampers too but then the stored energy is used up much rapidly than the charge up time was, so no free lunch... (ideally say for a hypotetical math example you charge up a cap to 8500V in 10 seconds with your consequtive output pulses and then if you disharge it in micro or milliseconds you get the high currents but this consumes the charge and another 10 second chargetime should come to repeat this process).

(see Nikola Tesla on this here http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#Section_4  where the Counsel asked him on "using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower".)   
The bottom line is the power fed into a capacitor under a certain charge up time (i.e stored energy will be Watt times the second) can be taken out in a much shorter time to get a much higher power. You simply consume the inputted energy in a much less time you spent for the charge-up.

rgds,  Gyula

IotaYodi

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2011, 11:04:38 PM »
Thanks Gulag! I read everything there. Some of it I already previously read but found some new things also. The storage of charge in the earth then picking it back up at a distance point was one of them. The spark gap was another.
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I was able, as I have pointed out in my writings, to produce oscillations without even a spark being visible between the knobs
That reminded me of the Japanese scientists who stated they found the most intense magnetic field in a spark gap to be a very low voltage. Looks like Tesla found that first also.
 I was going to try a bifilar coil with a secondary coil wrapped around that to see what I would get with the solar charger. Now Im thinking taking my stubblefield coil in the ground and then another coil at a distance in the ground. Tuning these coils would present a problem for me though.
Thanks again for the input Gulag!

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 04:07:06 AM »
interesting  ;D

xee2

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 05:33:27 AM »
@ schuler

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your results. You may want to try RK44 diodes (available from Electronic Goldmine), they have a very low forward voltage drop (less than 0.2 volts at 1 ma). This is a circuit that will light an LED using 1 uA at 0.7 volts >>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T9HQkDnIuU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Doug1

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 01:48:01 PM »
gyula
  http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#039
Thats a pretty interesting read. Tesla sounds kind of ticked off sometimes in it.

schuler

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 05:35:31 PM »
Hi xee2,
It seems my shopping list is growing.

 ::) The RK44 has been included.  ::)

xee2

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 07:11:28 AM »
@ schuler

I put an RK44 diode in series with an antenna and it did not rectify the weak mV signal being received. I then replaced RK44 with a germanium diode and it did rectify the signal. So RK44 may have low forward voltage drop but they do not make good detectors.


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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2011, 02:36:17 PM »
@ Anyone... I realize I am probably in the wrong forum, But can someone help me ??

I Have some of those wafer thin solar cells  .5v @ 3.5 Amps,  and I want to make a panel up of around
4.5 - 6 volts @ only  1 Amp, I know I can wire them up to make 4.5 or 6v but can I reduce the current somehow from 3.5 to 1 Amp without loosing much on the volts side ????

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2011, 02:40:33 PM »
@ schuler

I put an RK44 diode in series with an antenna and it did not rectify the weak mV signal being received. I then replaced RK44 with a germanium diode and it did rectify the signal. So RK44 may have low forward voltage drop but they do not make good detectors.

Germanium is very efficient up to 40% to 50% it also has the widest band gap, one thing I never tested on Germanium is if it is sensitive to Infrared.

Jerry

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2011, 04:11:41 PM »
The idea of diodes as energy accumulators has been discussed in other threads (can't remember where anymore) as well.  I am hoping to take an old LED computer screen to see if I can collect radiant energy from that. As a diode (or grouping of diodes), it should be able to accomplish this task. Unlike solar panels, diodes should be able to collect radiant energy any time of day, as should any piece of metal (with its inherent crystalline molecular structure) - see Tesla's apparatus for collecting radiant energy.

Someone also mentioned using a bifilar coil and a secondary with diodes.  Again, in another thread, the self-inducting properties of coils has been noted. Is this not why coils are found in many of Tesla's patents?
B

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2011, 04:23:04 PM »
@ Anyone... I realize I am probably in the wrong forum, But can someone help me ??

I Have some of those wafer thin solar cells  .5v @ 3.5 Amps,  and I want to make a panel up of around
4.5 - 6 volts @ only  1 Amp, I know I can wire them up to make 4.5 or 6v but can I reduce the current somehow from 3.5 to 1 Amp without loosing much on the volts side ????

hi freepow

yes, you can - use a Pulse-Width Modulation circuit with the duty cycle adjusted to give you whatever proportion current you want from the panels max o/p

this means you get to use as much of the voltage as possible but essentially you're varying the load impedance to just draw your preferred current