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Author Topic: Free Energy From Diodes  (Read 41553 times)

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 03:29:59 AM »
Hi everyone  ;D

Try to add two big different metals like ZINC and it will add up some spice  ;D

AND PULSE IT! FOR ECONOMICALLY AND EFFICIENCY

enjoy!  ;)

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 04:48:42 AM »
Germanium in pure form or Germanium oxide or an equivalent is what you need to play with, not little diodes with very little germanium in them.

I am all for this topic, I trust in it because I know how efficient Germanium is when used.

master the no moving parts concept and you will be on thee top.
Jerry 8)

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2011, 10:13:40 PM »
Hi Experimenters,

If you want to play with diodes and light, may I suggest you to try the BYV96D.

One single diode gives about 150 millivolts under about 50 cm of a 60w desk lamp. I have not measured the current.

It sounds like these diodes are behaving like tiny solar panels.

I was given this trick by an old (= older than me) OU guy.

Very Best

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2011, 10:13:40 PM »
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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 02:55:42 AM »
Germanium in pure form or Germanium oxide or an equivalent is what you need to play with, not little diodes with very little germanium in them.

I am all for this topic, I trust in it because I know how efficient Germanium is when used.

master the no moving parts concept and you will be on thee top.
Jerry 8)

it depends on the design actually, see edison mastered his dc  and see tesla mastered his ac with the moving parts  ;D  8)

and judge who's on the thee top you are saying  :D

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 10:13:59 AM »
Hi NerzhDishual,
I noticed 1N270 germanium diode produces more power close to an electronic lamp at home but not because of light, but because the lamp seems to be leaking strong electromagnetic waves. Placing an antenna close to it with my germanium diodes far from it, I get 3 Volts and a bit of current. By the way, 1N270 are always around me for an experiment or another.

 :o Hi onthecuttingedge  :o,
Thank you for the idea. I'm thinking about it.

Hi xee2,
Thank you for testing the RK44. It saves my time. I won't test it.

I'm starting to see diodes in general and germanium diodes in special as eternal power harvesters.

 :D Thank you for sharing your ideas!  :D

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Offline Magnethos

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Interesting information
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 01:55:15 PM »
Thanks for the info,
The most important experiment, in my opinion, is the number #6. I remember to see in the net a video called "Free Electricity from Thin Air"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vko8pfnX_w0

It gives power but it takes a lot to charge the caps. I used that circuit (that includes 1N34A germanium diodes) to capture energy from the natural voltage present in the background radiation.
An interesting experiment I made is to replace the Avramenko converter from 1 wire to 2 wires (include 2 diodes BD138 and a 1KV 0.22uF Cap) with the circuit that you can see in the video. And it works.  ;D
It should be interesting to test that configuration with the diodes you've suggested (1N270).
A question from experiment number 7. You say that with one 1N270 you can get 0.7uA and 26mV. When you put more diodes in series or parallel, you can increase the total power you get or you get the same power with 1,2,3... ? You say that not significan voltage or current increase has been observed.

A thing I thought is to charge capacitors indepentdly (alone), and then when you want to discharge them, connect them in series or parallel and run a load.

Can you try the same experiment, but instead of using 2 1N270 can you use an antenna and the Avramenko rectifier?
http://jnaudin.free.fr/images/afep1b.jpg

This is how tesla rectified one wire energy to 2 wire energy
http://www.tesla.hu/tesla/articles/18930200/fig16.gif

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2011, 02:54:36 PM »

Today is a sunny day....
I just got 310 millivolts with one BYV96D under the sun.
When I put my fingers on the diode the voltage drops.
In this case it is *not* a matter of of electromagnetism.

Very Best

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Offline Poit

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2011, 03:16:23 PM »
Today is a sunny day....
I just got 310 millivolts with one BYV96D under the sun.
When I put my fingers on the diode the voltage drops.
In this case it is *not* a matter of of electromagnetism.

Very Best

what miliamps though? it bugs me that people post voltage with out amps. voltage without amps is NOT power.

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 08:11:53 AM »
Nerzdishaul I am interested in your wattage as well and if you would mind weather or not I posted your results at my own web forum.

Thanks in advance!

-infringer-
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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 08:11:53 AM »
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Offline schuler

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »
Hi Magnethos. :)
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The most important experiment, in my opinion, is the number #6.
I agree with you. #6 is the most important.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vko8pfnX_w0
My friend Assaad and I assembled the very same circuit shown in the video you've posted. With a small antenna, we got voltage aroung 500mV. The interesting thing is: the antenna is a single wire. This circuit rectifies a single wire AC into DC. With just 2 germanium diodes, without any capacitor, you can already start playing with.

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A question from experiment number 7. You say that with one 1N270 you can get 0.7uA and 26mV. When you put more diodes in series or parallel, you can increase the total power you get or you get the same power with 1,2,3... ? You say that not significan voltage or current increase has been observed.
Well. this is a sad story. Placing germanium diodes in parallel doesn't increase current nor voltage. Placing them in series, increase voltage, but current drops fast. I couldn't find any usefulness with more than 2 diodes.

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A thing I thought is to charge capacitors independently (alone), and then when you want to discharge them, connect them in series or parallel and run a load.
I charged 6 capacitors in parallel and then discharged in series using a LED. I got light for some seconds only after half of an hour charging.

About the experiments you suggest, they are a bit out of my current scope (diodes as power source). But in the case you test by yourself, please let me know your results.

Hi Poit  :) ,
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what miliamps though? it bugs me that people post voltage with out amps. voltage without amps is NOT power.
From my experiment #7, follows:
A single 1N270 germanium diode generates 26mV and 0.7uA. I suspect that somehow the measurement device is interfering the experiment as antenna. But it's still an interesting result.

See you soon. ;)




 


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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 07:17:22 PM »
@Infringer

You, of course, can put all you want on your web forum.

Some measurements:
3 diodes in series under the sun  = about 1 volt.
I was able to charge a 650 microF cap at about 0.6 volts.
I have not checked the time. A couple of minutes..

3 diodes in parallel, under the sun but later in the day :
285 millivolts (without charge).
These 3 diodes shorted with a 9.8 Kohm resistor: 55 millivolts (= with charge).

So, there is a tiny current.

I will make more experiments and more serious measurements and also some pictures
as soon as (?) the sun is back.

To me, this is not worth a solar panel!

Very Best

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2011, 07:17:22 PM »
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Offline Magnethos

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2011, 09:42:49 PM »
Hi Magnethos. :)I agree with you. #6 is the most important.
My friend Assaad and I assembled the very same circuit shown in the video you've posted. With a small antenna, we got voltage aroung 500mV. The interesting thing is: the antenna is a single wire. This circuit rectifies a single wire AC into DC.

I replaced the elevated wire by the output of an car's ignition coil Single wire. It works in the same way  :D

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2011, 02:30:45 PM »
 :) Hello Experimenters  :)

I put the 3 component circuit from experiment 6 in series with a 1.5V battery 10 min ago. Then, I placed my antenna close to an electronic light bulb know to produce voltage in my circuit. Then, I connected a white 3mm LED in series (I placed between the battery and 1 of the germanium diodes). The result is:  :o I got a glowing LED!!! :o . It was a weak light.

Unfortunately, I forgot measuring voltage and current. I suspect that the voltage was just above the minimum for this LED that I believe it's around 2.2V. And I'm guessing the current was about 1uA.

Resume: with 2 germanium diodes 1N270, 2m long antenna, one 1.5V battery and one 3mm white LED, I've got a glowing LED!

 ;D  ;D

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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2012, 03:08:30 AM »


Three weeks ago, I placed a green 3v LED indicator light on my breadboard to measure the voltage.

My 'power connection' wires were only notional. They were not connected to a battery or power supply. They were just connected to the breadboard (to the +ve and -ve sides of the breadboard) to make it easier to measure any voltage emanating from the LEDs. Out of curiosity I measured the voltage between the terminals of the LED (despite no power being supplied to it) and was surprised to find a small voltage reading which I thought must probably be within the margin of error of the multimeter.

However, when I connected a second LED to the breadboard and measured the voltage again, (keeping the positive LED terminals on the same side) I noticed a small but nonetheless obvious increase in circuit voltage.

Needless to say I immediately connected as many LEDs as I could find to the breadboard (again without any power supply being provided to the circuit). I found that each LED I added increased the voltage picked up by the Multimeter by almost identical increments, and though blue LEDs seemed to caused voltage to fall, green, red and orange LEDS seemed to work quite well).

By cramming 20 LEDs onto the circuit, my first reading was 0.5 volts, however, when I moved the apparatus around the room the voltage varied from between 0.2 volts up to a rather surprising 1.2 volts. At one point I managed 1.6 volts with 25 LEDs.

I tried to add a tiny load to the circuit but no current could be measured. Not even a single milliamp. None of the LEDs ever hit the 2 volts + needed for them to illuminate (they normally operate at about 3v).

Explanation:

The voltage varied as I moved the device around the room. At first I thought the copper base of the breadboard in combination with the wire terminals of the LEDs was supplying a small voltage to the 'circuit' by induction (from the mains electricity supply). I thought this because when I turned off my 240v overhead lights, the voltage of the circuit plummeted to a nominal level. I originally suspected that each LED was forming a coil shape relative to the base of the copper surfaced breadboard, as in a solenoid with N windings.


Some days later, when I repeated the experiment, I realised that the induction explanation was wrong. The reality was that when I moved the breadboard closer to the overhead lights, the voltage increased, and when I covered the LEDs with my hand (shielding them from overhead light) the voltage plummeted to nominal levels. So they were reacting to light rather than picking anything up by induction.


In conclusion, Light Emitting Diodes, though designed to illuminate when circa 3v DC is supplied, also behave as fairly inefficient solar cells (they work backwards as well).


I iterate that I was unable to detect any current whatever, even though I added a tiny load. It is a fun experiment, easily replicated, and I hope it is of some interest to someone.




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Re: Free Energy From Diodes
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2012, 06:35:46 AM »
Yes this is a known effect.  LED's in strong sunlight can generate some power and have been known to baffle some people with  LED flashlights when facing the Sun in certain cases.   They were emitting light even when turned off.  Probably a cap  inside built up enough voltage to light the LED feeding the cap. 

 

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