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Offline Colesakick

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Extracting energy from the aether
« on: June 05, 2006, 06:52:01 AM »
In order to extract energy from the aether it is essential to understand what the aether is and how it contributes to the creation of ordinary matter. I?m a rank amateur, but I am familiar with the concept of aether physics via a book I bought over a year ago (Secrets of the Aether). I only know enough to know that the model presented in that book unveils geometric relationships that could be useful in realizing a concrete method of pressing the aether into service for over-unity devices.

On the other side of the aether, according to the book, is an enormous sea of energy (termed Gforce in the book). The author of the model describes the aether in terms of units of rotating magnetic fields (associated with each other like a super fluid) that confer spin onto the Gforce as it passes through it, effectively dividing the sea of energy into matter (termed onn in the book, as I understand it).

The book speaks of a concept that is ignored by all models I?ve examined to date, that being geometric aspect/importance of charge and matter. Dave Thomson talks about the Casimir effect in terms of the angular momentum (16pi2) of the aether. He also quotes Casimir on his discovery that curvature increased the strange "new energy" effect he discovered. Pulling new matter/energy into the universe from the aether is essential to the goals of this forum. Let?s explore what the aether is, what it does, and what that knowledge can do to rid us of dependence on fossil fuels.   



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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 07:10:49 PM »
In order to extract energy from the aether it is essential to understand what the aether is and how it contributes to the creation of ordinary matter. I?m a rank amateur, but I am familiar with the concept of aether physics via a book I bought over a year ago (Secrets of the Aether). I only know enough to know that the model presented in that book unveils geometric relationships that could be useful in realizing a concrete method of pressing the aether into service for over-unity devices.

I am one of the authors of Secrets of the Aether.  Probably the best way to introduce people to the theory is to read our white paper, A New Foundation for Physicshttp://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf.

The mechanics for tapping unlimited energy are simple.  Using the Casimir effect we cause dark matter to be converted to visible matter, and then put the newly created visible matter to work.  From my reading of Nikola Tesla's work, the rumored power supply for the Pierce Arrow automobile seems to have done just that.  The car was fitted with two spheres on the back, which I believe were used for producing Zenneck waves, which created photons out of dark matter.  The photons were then absorbed by the copper spheres via the photoelectric effect and converted to electrons.  The electrons were then provided a path through the motor (load).  Since the electrons cannot just pile up on the copper sphere, they sought a path to a lower potential, thus causing the electric current to drive the motor.

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 09:40:22 PM »
In order to extract energy from the aether it is essential to understand what the aether is and how it contributes to the creation of ordinary matter. I?m a rank amateur, but I am familiar with the concept of aether physics via a book I bought over a year ago (Secrets of the Aether). I only know enough to know that the model presented in that book unveils geometric relationships that could be useful in realizing a concrete method of pressing the aether into service for over-unity devices.

I am one of the authors of Secrets of the Aether.  Probably the best way to introduce people to the theory is to read our white paper, A New Foundation for Physicshttp://www.16pi2.com/files/NewFoundationPhysics.pdf.

The mechanics for tapping unlimited energy are simple.  Using the Casimir effect we cause dark matter to be converted to visible matter, and then put the newly created visible matter to work.  From my reading of Nikola Tesla's work, the rumored power supply for the Pierce Arrow automobile seems to have done just that.  The car was fitted with two spheres on the back, which I believe were used for producing Zenneck waves, which created photons out of dark matter.  The photons were then absorbed by the copper spheres via the photoelectric effect and converted to electrons.  The electrons were then provided a path through the motor (load).  Since the electrons cannot just pile up on the copper sphere, they sought a path to a lower potential, thus causing the electric current to drive the motor.

Colesakick, nice topic/content.
volantis thanks for the simple to understand explaination.

volantis, a question:
What are the mechanics if any behind the usage of sparkgap devices as part of the design for pulling and/or emiting energy from the vaccum? Tesla mentioned it as the "radiant event".


For those who are not familiar with the Tesla Car, here is an article of interest describing the event.
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"The receiver, no larger than a short-wave radio of the day, used 12 special tubes which Dr. Tesla brought with him in a boxlike case.

The device had been prefitted into the dashboard, no larger than a short-wave receiver. Mr. Savo told Mr. Ahler that Dr. Tesla built the receiver in his hotel room, a device 2 feet in length, nearly 1 foot wide, a 1/2 foot high.

These curiously constructed tubes having been properly installed in their sockets, Dr. Tesla pushed in 2 contact rods and informed Peter that power was now available to drive.

Several additional meters read values which Dr. Tesla would not explain. Not sound was heard. Dr. Tesla handed Mr. Savo the ignition key and told him to start the engine, which he promptly did. Yet hearing nothing, the accelerator was applied, and the car instantly moved. Tesla's nephew drove this vehicle without other fuel for an undetermined long interval.

Mr. Savo drove a distance of 50 miles through the city and out to the surrounding countryside. The car was tested to speeds of 90 mph, with the speedometer rated to 120. "
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/teslcar.htm

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 11:06:31 PM »
volantis, a question:
What are the mechanics if any behind the usage of sparkgap devices as part of the design for pulling and/or emiting energy from the vaccum? Tesla mentioned it as the "radiant event".
The spark gap releases charge from the capacitor very quickly, like striking a bell with a hammer.  The charge passes through a coil rapidly causing a strong magnetic field at the base of the coil and a strong electrostatic potential near the top.  The copper spheres would have received the electrostatic pulse.  If the pulses are generated at the right frequency, they would produce Zenneck waves about the sphere.  The Zenneck waves, spherical waves standing a certain distance above the sphere's surface, would momentarily align and oscillate the Aether in that area. 

According to the Aether Physics Model, this alignment replicates the conditions of the Casimir effect, causing dark matter to be pulled into the Aether in the form of photons.

It is my belief that the light seen emanating from plasmas and corona discharges are also Casimir generated.  This means that plasma and corona light are examples of dark matter being converted into visible matter in the form of photons.

We're presently in the process of having such a device built so we can experiment with it.  My main focus is in proving concepts within the Aether Physics Model, but I will be looking for ways to replicate Tesla's rumored Pierce Arrow power supply.

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 07:04:47 PM »
volantis, a question:
What are the mechanics if any behind the usage of sparkgap devices as part of the design for pulling and/or emiting energy from the vaccum? Tesla mentioned it as the "radiant event".
The spark gap releases charge from the capacitor very quickly, like striking a bell with a hammer.  The charge passes through a coil rapidly causing a strong magnetic field at the base of the coil and a strong electrostatic potential near the top.  The copper spheres would have received the electrostatic pulse.  If the pulses are generated at the right frequency, they would produce Zenneck waves about the sphere.  The Zenneck waves, spherical waves standing a certain distance above the sphere's surface, would momentarily align and oscillate the Aether in that area. 

According to the Aether Physics Model, this alignment replicates the conditions of the Casimir effect, causing dark matter to be pulled into the Aether in the form of photons.

It is my belief that the light seen emanating from plasmas and corona discharges are also Casimir generated.  This means that plasma and corona light are examples of dark matter being converted into visible matter in the form of photons.

We're presently in the process of having such a device built so we can experiment with it.  My main focus is in proving concepts within the Aether Physics Model, but I will be looking for ways to replicate Tesla's rumored Pierce Arrow power supply.

Interesting, thanks.
So you do want to have the light effect and ability to capture those materialized photons in some kind of Faraday cage? and convert them to usable electricity. Will the usable electricity out be enough to power the device and leave some extra fo other uses?

I was reading Tesla's development of the magnifying transmitter, and he actually tried to minimize the "light" effect as he thought it was resulting in loss of transmitive energy. However in your system the more light the better. Nice.

Also regarding the Pierce Arrow power supply. According to all the account from back then, it appeared to be silent. Since the spark gap process does create a crackling / buzzing sound (frequency dependent?), is it fair to assume that his power supply in the car did not use a spark gap, and the 12 tubes were used mainly as collectors?
Maybe he had a magnifying transmitter (smaller version than the one destroyed) somewhere in the general geographical area and was taping into that?

On the Zennek standing waves, what frequencies are you targeting?
The Aether Physics work is simply fascinating.
Thanks

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 06:43:43 PM »
Interesting, thanks.
So you do want to have the light effect and ability to capture those materialized photons in some kind of Faraday cage? and convert them to usable electricity. Will the usable electricity out be enough to power the device and leave some extra fo other uses?
Yes, we need some kind of Faraday cage, or antenna, to capture the photons and convert them to electrons.  And yes, we need the light effect.  However, the light can be in the non-visible spectrums as well. 

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I was reading Tesla's development of the magnifying transmitter, and he actually tried to minimize the "light" effect as he thought it was resulting in loss of transmitive energy. However in your system the more light the better. Nice.
Actually, Tesla wanted to minimize the light surrounding the secondary and primary coils.  This is corona, which also may be free energy, but this corona is caused by leakage from the coils.  The leaking coils reduces the potential that can be generated at the top load.  I don't believe Tesla ever tried to reduce light in a controlled plasma (such as a vacuum tube) or above the topload (such as reportedly occurred when Wardencliffe was started up that one night).

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Also regarding the Pierce Arrow power supply. According to all the account from back then, it appeared to be silent. Since the spark gap process does create a crackling / buzzing sound (frequency dependent?), is it fair to assume that his power supply in the car did not use a spark gap, and the 12 tubes were used mainly as collectors?
I'm working on the hypothesis that there was no spark gap except inside the vacuum tubes.  There had to be a spark gap somewhere, as Tesla needed some kind of capacitive storage and sudden discharge to keep the electrical oscillation going.  I further hypothesize the vacuum tubes have various purposes but were primarily components of an oscillator circuit. 

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Maybe he had a magnifying transmitter (smaller version than the one destroyed) somewhere in the general geographical area and was taping into that?
I have heard this hypothesis before, including from (I believe) Tesla's last known assistant.  It wouldn't make sense to me in the theory I'm working with.  Although the magnifier Tesla talked about could transmit power, it could only do so by resonating the entire Earth's electrostatic field.  A small magnifier couldn't do that. 

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On the Zennek standing waves, what frequencies are you targeting?
The Aether Physics work is simply fascinating.
I'm going to try various frequencies, but I am definitely aiming for 7.8Hz, 60Hz, 400Hz, and 3600Hz.  These represent the Schumann resonance, standard us power transmission in a house, and military power frequencies.  These are all strong ground frequencies and may allow me to run the device without the second sphere.  Also, I have AC motors that work at 60, 400, and 3600Hz.  But I will also attempt to run a two-sphere setup, as Tesla's car apparently used.

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2006, 09:25:23 PM »
Regarding Tesla's Pierce Arrow the small device you described with the twelve tubes is a smaller, refined version of his magnifying transmitter. The magnifing transmitter itself works on the radiant energy principle put forth by Tesla in his research. Initaily high potential DC impules (capacitors) were used to create the radiant energy. It was nessesary to create something to convert this energy into a usable form. Enter the twelve tubes. I am guessing but I believe the copper spheres where used to "collect" "focus" the radiant energy into his system. You Should really read the work of Dr. Libermann I believe his name is. Regarding The Grey motor and its use of "cold electricity" which is converted radiant energy. This form of "cold Electricity" is exactly what Tesla was working with. According to Tesla this energy was very close to using pure ether without the trappings of electrons and other associated matter. It is a "higher" version of electricity, or more refined. As our current production of electricity is destructive ie. heat producing.

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2006, 01:00:17 AM »
How can you argument that the dielectric influence is less
destructive than the conventional electricity use ?
Could there not be the danger of a biogenetical transmutation
through the non-limited use of this kind of radiation ?

S
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p.s.:Less destructive like the N-bomb ?

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2006, 02:28:02 AM »
IancaIV,

I am not arguing, the term radiant energy is a description coined by Tesla to describe the ray-like projection of this energy. The nature (destructive or non-destructive) of any energy is determined by the primary impuse which creates it. In other words the universe uses this type of longitudial wave to promote creation and life. When we seek to create things like electricity we overlook the primary impulse which creates it. That is what makes "our" electricity destructive (Harmful). An interesting read is "The Energy Evolution" translated and edited by Callum Coats. It concerns the work of Viktor Schauberger. It will really blow your mind.

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2006, 02:52:07 AM »
Aether=microVortice/Vortex today also called plasma

Hello etherize,
Dr.Camus,Prof.Kanarev,P.Chambrin,S-Ormes et cetera....
-when something shall blow my mind then only "boring"maths,
not physical structures !

I emphaize that 100% of electricity is "water"/-derivates related,
and the biologic structure of us ,humans,is over 70% "water" !

I reed also about Victor Schauberger and his live-work,
something what today could be called "BIONIK-science",
but his kind of solutions differ from my targets !

S
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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2006, 08:22:13 PM »
volantis, a question:
What are the mechanics if any behind the usage of sparkgap devices as part of the design for pulling and/or emiting energy from the vaccum? Tesla mentioned it as the "radiant event".
The spark gap releases charge from the capacitor very quickly, like striking a bell with a hammer.  The charge passes through a coil rapidly causing a strong magnetic field at the base of the coil and a strong electrostatic potential near the top.  The copper spheres would have received the electrostatic pulse.  If the pulses are generated at the right frequency, they would produce Zenneck waves about the sphere.  The Zenneck waves, spherical waves standing a certain distance above the sphere's surface, would momentarily align and oscillate the Aether in that area. 

According to the Aether Physics Model, this alignment replicates the conditions of the Casimir effect, causing dark matter to be pulled into the Aether in the form of photons.

It is my belief that the light seen emanating from plasmas and corona discharges are also Casimir generated.  This means that plasma and corona light are examples of dark matter being converted into visible matter in the form of photons.

We're presently in the process of having such a device built so we can experiment with it.  My main focus is in proving concepts within the Aether Physics Model, but I will be looking for ways to replicate Tesla's rumored Pierce Arrow power supply.

volantis, any latest updates on replicating Tesla's rumored Pierce Arrow power supply?
tia

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2006, 02:55:58 PM »
How can you argument that the dielectric influence is less
destructive than the conventional electricity use ?
Could there not be the danger of a biogenetical transmutation
through the non-limited use of this kind of radiation ?

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  dL

p.s.:Less destructive like the N-bomb ?
I believe he meant since there are no electrons in the energy that was being used, it is cool to the touch and harmless. there is a photo of ed gray putting his hand in a cup of water with a lightbulb that is on using this energy, it is unlike conventional electricity. Evan

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Re: Extracting energy from the aether
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2007, 05:22:32 AM »
It is now a part of conventional physics and technology. The ether is alive and kicking.
 WIKI "superradiance":
Where a "classical" description of a rotating isolated weightless sphere in a vacuum will tend to say that the sphere will continue to rotate indefinitely, due the lack of frictional effects or any other form of obvious coupling with its smooth empty environment.
  Under quantum mechanics the surrounding region of vacuum is not entirely smooth, and the sphere's field can couple with quantum fluctuations and accelerate them to produce real radiation.
  Hypothetical "virtual" wavefronts with appropriate paths around the body are "picked on" and amplified into "real" physical wavefronts by the coupling process. Descriptions sometimes refer to these fluctuations "tickling" the field to produce the effect.
  Ok: What we have here is the electon-positron paris that pop out of higher dimetional space into the 4th dimention that we percieve, acting as a 'tenouos electrical fluid' causing a quantity of space to produce electromagnetic friction on a  partical. The ether exists, and it produces drag on rotating particles in a vacume.
Michelson-Morely is invalidated, totally.
  Furthermore, this action provides amplification that is not accountable by classical newtonian calculations...excess energy. Boo-yah! Game over for the debunker crowd.
  It is not just theorhetical...it's being done to provide excess radiation in free electron lasers...

Public Release: 19-Jan-2007
 Physical Review Letters
Researchers observe superradiance in a free electron laser
A team of researchers at the U.S. Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory has generated extremely short light pulses using a new technique that could be used in the next generation of light sources. Published on Jan. 19, 2007, in Physical Review Letters, the research team's findings describe using a laser to control the pulse duration of light from a free electron laser as well as the first experimental observation of a phenomenon called superradiance.  
 Office of Naval Research  

   G A M E   O V E R> The ether drag exists, and is exploitable  ;)
  Call it "vacume energy density" instead of "ether" and suddenly, as if by majic, you are acceptable to the mainstream physics world. Go figure.

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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 01:50:33 PM »
what exactly does this atmospheric energy density imply? that we can couple to the ether to extract energy? if so is there a specific frequency at which the ether most naturally fluxuates, is this the 7.8 schuman resonance that i have heard everyone tossing around? Thanks, Evan

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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2007, 09:20:49 AM »
fc. No. The S. resonance is not the ZPE or the VED (zero point energy/vacume energy density).
  Here is a good intro to zpe
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
  Here is a good intro to ved
and a reasonable one... a must-read IMHO
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/vacuum.html

  O.K. Well to address your question: the S. resonance varies depending on where you measure it on the earth, and it is not stable...it changes. It is the electromagnetic resonant frequency of the earth's core em field. It was used as part of a resonance circuit by tesla's huge magnifiers (very large tesla coils). I think he was using it as a capacitive tank to store energy that he could return to his t-coil tower...the idea was to link the ionisphere with ground. The i-sphere is too high up but t's idea may be achieved today with high power lasers, or microwaves acting as the conduit from ground up there...but why anyone would want to do this is not clear to me. There are many speculations about that on the web...google 'haarp array' or 'scalar warfare'.

  Anyhoo. The ved/zpe is theorhetically very large...and experimentally very small. Just how much energy is there to be tapped is a matter of speculation at this time. I personally believe that overall it is a very large force, but that most of it is employed in a vital fuction and only a little of it is left-over, radiated waste, available for use.

  One thing I wonder about, related to your frequency question: we know that when matter and anti-matter unite the result is a shower of gamma rays. The zpe/ved is usually explained as being a random sea of positron-electron pairs that spontaneosly pop up everywhere there is space, unite and dissapear. So, that being the case, why aren't we immersed in a constant sea of gamma rays? Perhaps we are but it's too weak to detect, which begs the next question...
  If the available, radiated energy of the zpe is very large, wouldn't there be a very strong, measureable sea of gamma radiation, everywhere?

  I am currently inclined to think that the zpe/ved is very large...but most of it's energy is USED UP by the role the zpe plays in creating dimentional space coordinants. Most people feel that the zpe is not doing anything...it's just there, being wasted, and ready for us to use it.
  I happen to feel that the zpe/ved is SERVING A SPACE-CREATING function, and as such, it is otherwise engaged, and not just waiting there for us to use it. I suspect that tapping a significant portion of the zpe would collapse space...the 3 dimentions would implode.
  Also, disengaging the zpe from it's current fuction would likely require a lot of input energy. You don't stop something that strong from doing it's job without using a lot of energy to change/intervene its course of action.
  Those are my two-cents. This is clearly a newbie thread, so I don't expect anyone but yourself with care to read it. Good luck. I hope you figure things out.
 

 

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