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Author Topic: Eddy currents and their implications  (Read 61708 times)

Offline frankly

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2011, 10:21:56 AM »


I agree not seperatly for in a magnet you have two poles a both ends one moving into the magnet face and one moving away, Im sorry but I dont subscribe to the bloch wall theory that would imply that the pole of the electron or particle whatever we want to call it flips poles half way through the magnet I just dont see that happening.



I am not too sure what you mean there Dave. Could you expand or clarify please?

I meant, that with one wire, if you wave the end of a magnet toward the wire, you get energy, and as you go past and out the other side, you get the inverse. Not the reverse, for that would be South pole energy, or what comes from rotating the magnet past the single wire. This is called pulsed DC I think. Correct me if I am wrong please.

Frankly.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2011, 10:21:56 AM »

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2011, 10:41:06 AM »
May be that will help for understand to magnet`s wave process:
In my Russian application for an invention used by BTG mechanism for the formationof monopoles, which is now modeled by physicists in Switzerland:

http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v7/n1/full/nphys1794.html

Magnetic monopoles have been predicted to occur as emergent fractional quasiparticles inside pyrochlore spin ice, a frustrated magnetic insulator. Experimental signatures of such emergent monopoles accompanied by Dirac strings have been detected by means of neutron scattering in reciprocal space in pyrochlore spin ice at sub-Kelvin temperatures, but their real-space observation has remained elusive. Here we report on direct, real-space observations of emergent monopoles and their associated Dirac strings in two-dimensional (2D) artificial kagome spin ice at room temperature using synchrotron X-ray photoemission electron microscopy. Magnetization reversal proceeds through the nucleation and avalanche-type dissociation of monopole–antimonopole pairs along 1D Dirac strings. This is in sharp contrast to conventional domain growth in 2D systems, providing a striking example of dimensional reduction due to frustration. The observed hysteresis, monopole densities and 1D Dirac-string avalanches are quantitatively explained by Monte Carlo simulations.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2011, 11:14:41 AM »
May be that will help for understand to magnet`s wave process:
In my Russian application for an invention used by BTG mechanism for the formationof monopoles, which is now modeled by physicists in Switzerland:

http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v7/n1/full/nphys1794.html

Magnetic monopoles have been predicted to occur as emergent fractional quasiparticles inside pyrochlore spin ice, a frustrated magnetic insulator. Experimental signatures of such emergent monopoles accompanied by Dirac strings have been detected by means of neutron scattering in reciprocal space in pyrochlore spin ice at sub-Kelvin temperatures, but their real-space observation has remained elusive. Here we report on direct, real-space observations of emergent monopoles and their associated Dirac strings in two-dimensional (2D) artificial kagome spin ice at room temperature using synchrotron X-ray photoemission electron microscopy. Magnetization reversal proceeds through the nucleation and avalanche-type dissociation of monopole–antimonopole pairs along 1D Dirac strings. This is in sharp contrast to conventional domain growth in 2D systems, providing a striking example of dimensional reduction due to frustration. The observed hysteresis, monopole densities and 1D Dirac-string avalanches are quantitatively explained by Monte Carlo simulations.


Hi MotovilovDN.

We have not spoken before, nor have I had much time to absorb the higher order mechanics you are obviously conversant with. I will, however, endeavour to if you wish. As a beginning, I looked up your previous links, which I absorbed a little of, and the recent post, which enlightened me a little more.

Then, I saw this last post and dived right in, only to get to here........"In pyrochlore spin ice, the monopole–antimonopole pairs are connected by a string of overturned dipoles, which is often called a Dirac string6, 19, 20, 21. In this context, the Dirac string is understood as a physical 1D object that feeds magnetic flux into the volume elements where the monopoles reside. The string was originally conceived by Dirac as a singular line in the vector potential, to describe the quantum motion of an electron in the (classical) field of a magnetic monopole".

Now, I think I touched upon the absurdity of using straight lines to explain circular motion earlier, but this does better justice.

How, in what manner, can the monopoles described "feed flux into the elements where the monopoles reside"???? Via the Dirac string which is the result of the monopoles? This seems to me, a layman, like an oxymoron. An abberation. A self negating statement.

In other words, bullshit.

Sure it is wrapped in chocolate, but nevertheless, it sure tastes the same once bitten into.

Take, for example, the emergance of the the proton, from the interaction in the model from the first link. Where does this come from? "Created"??? From the colission? More of the same, I think.

Sorry, it just doesn't make sense yet.

Perhaps I am missing something fundamental.

Or else, you are.

Frankly.


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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2011, 11:14:41 AM »
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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2011, 11:24:07 AM »
Hi, Frankly.  Yes, that is very difficult, big scientific task...   

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 11:42:24 AM »
Hi, Frankly.  Yes, that is very difficult, big scientific task...   

My friend. It is not difficult. The reasons put forth do not make sense, and so, need to be replaced.

Vectors cannot describe arcs.

Simple.

Quaternions were originally used, and referred to by Tesla in his work. Only with circular motion, can the rotation path of the Eddy currents formed be described. Only with circles can matter be resolved. There is no reason to match the masses of the wide, short primary wind, with the long, narrow secondary, apart from the fact that the tail of the Eddy current, before it loops upon itself, intersects with the secondary, delivering momentum to the impressed voltage and amperage at the load, thereby retaining and sustaining the standing wave motion within the primary and allowing the power generated to be removed from the secondary without effecting the primary, providing certain limits are maintained.

Frankly.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2011, 11:57:03 AM »
It's just another road. The specifics of your own links with universe.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2011, 12:53:46 PM »
It's just another road. The specifics of your own links with universe.

On my way to bed, but I have to respond.

Please, prove that assertion. Someone with your credentials, surely cannot simply sit back and say, "that is how it is in my world, you live in yours" without explaining your position and supporting your thought forms with logical explanations. I have given you mine. What are your supporting arguments for your "reality" as you know it? Describe your "truth" so that we all may understand.

Frankly.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
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« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2011, 01:22:54 PM »

    To do this, read my book The theory of energy flows. It is available in the Library of Congress. In Russian, unfortunately ..
http://prs-rover.narod.ru/biblitek/motov_1.html

http://bolshoyforum.org/wiki/index.php/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2011, 02:28:00 PM »
MotovilovDN

Since Frankly is probably Snoozing right now,I would like to ask a Question?

Most things can be simplified to a few words,
Whats your book about??[the "Meat" ,not the potatoes]

Thanks
Chet

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
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« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2011, 02:44:31 PM »
This is a new theory of electricity, which could not complete Maxwell.
New laws Ohm, Kirchhoff. The new theorem Poynting (Motovilov). The opening of the second type of energy flows of electromagnetic fields, which were previously considered physically impossible.

These discoveries have been certified by the recognition in Geneva (Silver Medal 1996) and Tokyo (Symposium 1989, I have also defended dissertation in the academic council VEI, Moscow).

Development of the scheme of collecting energy from the environment such flows of energy (fuel-less generation against second law of thermodynamics).

I currently have a patent in Germany covering almost all global production of these generators - Perendev, Gamma, Kapanadze, Melnichenko, Gritskevich etc.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2011, 03:52:04 PM »
The problem with science is that they overcomplicate .
Its really very simple

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« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2011, 05:20:48 PM »
The problem with science is that they overcomplicate .
Its really very simple
Agreed.
There are an unscientific ways, even religious, or experiential.
They are methods of Testatiki and some also methods  of Tesla.
Roads a lot, but they all lead to one goal. I already wrote about this earlier today.

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2011, 07:00:26 PM »
My friend. It is not difficult. The reasons put forth do not make sense, and so, need to be replaced.

Vectors cannot describe arcs.

Simple.

Quaternions were originally used, and referred to by Tesla in his work. Only with circular motion, can the rotation path of the Eddy currents formed be described. Only with circles can matter be resolved. There is no reason to match the masses of the wide, short primary wind, with the long, narrow secondary, apart from the fact that the tail of the Eddy current, before it loops upon itself, intersects with the secondary, delivering momentum to the impressed voltage and amperage at the load, thereby retaining and sustaining the standing wave motion within the primary and allowing the power generated to be removed from the secondary without effecting the primary, providing certain limits are maintained.

Frankly.


Making note of this for myself and maybe others in case anyone skimmed over this.  Sounds like a path to OU.  I believe you are also saying it is important for the weight or mass of the secondary and primary to be equal? 

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Re: Eddy currents and their implications
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2011, 07:26:09 PM »
Hi Motovilov.

Sorry, but you seem to be avoiding the questions put to you. Either you can describe how you think I am wrong, and where, with facts and your theories, or you cannot.

You say there is a patent? Please, post a copy here, in English, so we all may understand the nuts and bolts of your thoughts.

I think I asked you earlier, to describe your theory. Simply stating that it is established with medals somewhere or other, does not do this.

I have been pouring out my 13 years of research here, in a free and open manner, trying to put forth the reasons behind what I see, and explaining the workings of things as I see them.

Yet, there you sit, in the background, with god knows what resources, perhaps gleaning what you can, developing new theories from the words of others, so that you can pass them off as your own?

No. Not anymore. I am done. There has been no feedback, no conversation into the methods we could use, only one device design put forth, and just me, explaining away, thinking this is the way it is done, and then people like you come along, a MODERATOR of the forum, and refuse to elaborate on your own ideas?

I feared this would be the case.

If you do find it within yourself to freely share the truth, as I have done, that would be great. If not, well. Each to their own. We will all know then, who you are.

As to everyone else here, I will continue to read the posts for a little while, but until the time comes when science and research is once more done freely and openly, for the advancement of the human race, based upon logic and reason and not twisted bullshit that doesn't make sense, in order to deceive and confuse those that would understand and as a whole entity and not for capitalist ends, I am gone.

Frankly.

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« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2011, 08:17:16 PM »
My experience over 40 years, says the following:

There is no other way of knowing my work, like reading the original.
Unfortunately, it is in Russian. However, I laid him open to you.

If I was lecturing in the U.S., then I would be a good translator and I could teach a lot of people. It's true.

If you want me to explain to you here the whole point in a nutshell, this is impossible. I think you and myself know this: because very few people here understand your reasoning as well as you own.

German patent here I also did not show, there is this reason.
I think that what little has already posted earlier today, in any case will be useful to know.

However, I am always glad to your success and willing to answer questions that may have here a clear answer to you.
Sincerely - Motovilov

 

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