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Author Topic: Water and gravity: look at this video  (Read 13945 times)

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2022, 12:50:46 PM »
Interestingly enough, this mathematical analysis does not account for an anomalous energy quotient.
That being contained in the momentum of the falling fluid.
Allowing for the maximum resolution of e = 2e (?)
when will be pictures ?

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2022, 12:58:55 PM »
My analysis is theoretical at this point.


I have not constructed a physical device that utilizes both gravitational principles simultaneously

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2022, 05:22:00 AM »
Ive made a video with sketches and a brief explanation:




https://youtu.be/qPFJgIWZe-E




Link to TK’s version of a complex design::


https://youtu.be/L3UGTyc36f4

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2022, 04:39:32 PM »
I’ll give another example, so this becomes more understandable.


This is an entirely different system.
Which is governed by the same equation.


https://youtu.be/s5eIRjmor1w


What you are seeing here is a change in external pressure
causing a change in internal pressure.
The energy in this system is consumed by compressing the air in the eye dropper.
This causes a change in density making it less buoyant.


This energy is returned by releasing the external pressure,
and the eye dropped becomes buoyant once again.




Pay attention:::: 


The momentum of the falling eye dropper is NOT considered.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2022, 04:42:07 PM »
I propose that it is possible to separate the acceleration force of gravity
from the buoyancy/displacement effect.


It is this, that may allow for gravitational energy to be extracted

Offline ramset

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2022, 12:08:25 PM »
Cool,
 Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Really does seem Novel yet such a simple application
Of a huge potential ( gravity component which was being wasted)
A possible “perpetuity “ ??
Respectfully
Chet K

Ps
TinselKoala’s link again ( one part of your concept


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L3UGTyc36f4&feature=youtu.be












Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2022, 02:17:12 PM »
im looking beyond a perpetual fountain,


This is an aspect of gravity itself, from which
we could obtain infinite energy


Take the cartesian diver, for example:


A bottle of any height follows the same equation.
It’s a change in pressure equivalent to that which causes the air to compress.


Like a buoyancy switch

When its ‘on’, no force is placed on the bottle.
Apply force x for a distance y and buoyancy turns “off”


The switch function is conservative
(turns itself back on)
However, the PE<->KE field conservation of gravity is violated
We get the PE side for free.

At some height h :
The force at which the diver reaches the bottom is greater than the applied force
that activated the switch.


E = 2e


Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2022, 02:35:19 PM »
With the cartesian diver, harnessing this seems straightforward


Add a small magnet to the diver and allow it to rise and fall through a coil


Now let’s improve the efficiency of switch function
— take a spring, or a static force (clamp) and press on the bottle
just LESS than enough to activate the buoyancy switch.
Now our energy in/out is minimized.


This will emphasize the gravitational output.

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2022, 02:53:21 PM »
Now that we’ve isolated the mathematical work function of gravity
We can engineer any number of devices to take advantage of this principle.


Lets use Heat as our switch in this next one:::


See
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5942801/


So we have a helium balloon, lifting a small magnet suspended over a coil
The internal pressure is so close to the switching condition,
that a small drop in outside temperature compresses the gas making it non buoyant
raise the temperature back up and it floats again.
(hot air baloon, nothing special right?)


What happens at the coil?
How high does the balloon need to float before this energy exceeds the change in temperature?


Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2022, 12:28:54 AM »
I have devised an experiment that definitely proves my theory:


Feel free to try this at home.
If you find an experimental result that defies my theory,
Please share a description and your results.


As follows:


Take a closed vessel containing two fluids of different densities
One suspended vertically within the gravitational field.


At any pressure you choose


The momentum of the denser fluid will be exactly the same
when it drops from a given height.


Meaning, no matter the pressure system, a change in pressure, resulting in a change in height
Manifests this quotient of energy we refer to as gravitational potential.
E=mgh


In any conservative pressure system (that is one which returns the applied force back to the environment which applied it)
This energy quotient is extra internal work performed by the system.
We would expect this to manifest itself as internal heat and thereby raise the pressure accordingly.
However this does not reflect in experimental results.


The entirety of this momentum is observed outside of the system, minus standard losses.


Therefore: a change in internal energy of a 2-fluid pressurized system
Results in a second energy, derived from gravity.

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2022, 12:34:25 AM »
The two hold a proportionality akin to voltage and current


The pressure state representing a static value


And the gravitational momentum representing a time derived motion.
An acceleration force, applied over a distance, of one fluid transitioning through another.

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2022, 12:38:45 AM »
In nature, we would view the pressure system as being the energy that causes a rainstorm


And the gravitational component being the combined momentum of every drop of rain when it hits the ground


As you can see these are two greatly different numbers.

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2022, 12:49:00 AM »
There is a 3rd component that that maintains the proportionality


The “resistance” component


This is the fluidic resistivity factor


At a given pressure, 2 fluids have a factor, similar to friction,
Wind resistance, etc.


Which controls the transition rate,
This is the “g” constant.


At standard pressure (atm), using air as the first fluid,
This is 9.8 m/s/s

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2022, 12:50:24 AM »
Much like electricity, fluids take the path of least resistance.


For this reason, the density of the lighter fluid affects the constant.

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Re: Water and gravity: look at this video
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2022, 12:56:25 AM »
In the absence of gravity:


The pressure system continues to operate exactly as prescribed.
All energies are still accounted for.


We simply no longer have the gravitational component.
The Cartesian Diver fails to dive, even though the air compresses.


This proves that gravity can be used as a power source.