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Author Topic: Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid  (Read 542044 times)

energia9

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That's it! Bang on correct! I was trying to make the connection when he cut his wire a bit too short then add another two inches with a connector and he said something like "i cut this one too short and it messed up the  swar (VSWR)"   now that lingo is dead give away for a HAM or CB. This is why he had to match that to his 40m rig. Now you confirmed he is a HAM operator its pretty much game over for him and people shouldn't waste any more time here.

You see if you are really tuning into the ambient you do NOT use Hertzian or transverse wave tuned systems they are ALL longitudinal wave systems and are not tuned to a VSWR.

While pyramid systems DO hold some energy for growing plants etc this is well documented AND repeatable but no one else get like 20 watts out of them UNLESS they are fake and hit with least 500 watts RF.


If you dont build it, of course you will never know the truth, you can only theorize because you have not tried it.  this setup doesnt seem to cost lots of $ ,   people dont be discouraged,  TRY it,  then say whatever the real truth is. 
here is the proof this tech works, and TRAWOGER copied it from Les brown then rearranged things -

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7VN6B2GjVI&feature=related   

the polyesterene string is the sheeps wool string.
here is another device which prooves that even 500 watts can be withdrawed from the "air"
http://www.rexresearch.com/markovic/atree.htm

and i believe Egyptians did not build their pyramids for only making graves as they would have needed to start making the grave for the king before he was born... 
Obviously something is hidden from peoples sight, and i believe the pyramid could deliver hundreds of gigawatts of power if set up correctly..

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If you dont build it, of course you will never know the truth, you can only theorize because you have not tried it.  this setup doesnt seem to cost lots of $ ,   people dont be discouraged,  TRY it,  then say whatever the real truth is. 
here is the proof this tech works, and TRAWOGER copied it from Les brown then rearranged things -

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7VN6B2GjVI&feature=related   

the polyesterene string is the sheeps wool string.
here is another device which prooves that even 500 watts can be withdrawed from the "air"
http://www.rexresearch.com/markovic/atree.htm

and i believe Egyptians did not build their pyramids for only making graves as they would have needed to start making the grave for the king before he was born... 
Obviously something is hidden from peoples sight, and i believe the pyramid could deliver hundreds of gigawatts of power if set up correctly..

I did say that the system needs to be tuned into longitudinal waves to work as in the case of  Markovitz device but again several people have tried for over 30 years to replicate this too and no one has got more than a few mW output.  The TRAWOGER just doesn't cut it for me sorry as the principle construction is very wrong. People that know me know im usually very optimistic but there are far far better things to select for possible OU and spend your money on instead. I might change my mind if someone ever manages to get more than 1 watt output but i doubt that will happen. The odds of winning the lotto are MUCH greater.

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Correct me if im wrong, how come a dc fan work, connected directly to the coil without using any diodes? i've seen a pyramid before that purifies water, but not this kind, powering a 12V halogen lamp.... ??? maybe he use rechargable batteries inside the tube  :o ??? ??? ???

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This is hillariously tragic!!  You guys truly don't see it do you!  Wow.

fritz

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In comparison to 90% of mindboggling theories and wacky electronics experiments in this forum - his actual build instructions are pretty straight forward - and a replication should be quite idiot proof - as long as you get hold on a competent dowser;-))
But its quite interesting which people immediate replied on this thread.



fritz

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Correct me if im wrong, how come a dc fan work, connected directly to the coil without using any diodes? i've seen a pyramid before that purifies water, but not this kind, powering a 12V halogen lamp.... ??? maybe he use rechargable batteries inside the tube  :o ??? ??? ???

As long as there is a DC path - (no cap in series) - there is no doubt that a DC current may flow.
There is no iron law that you need a diode to get DC from a coil.
There are lots of possibilities to get DC in that context.
If you think about the early crystal-detector radios - you will realize that there are other ways to achieve semi-conducting properties - without using a "diode".
Or somewhat synchronous demodulation/multiplication would end up with a dc compound...


fritz

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Correct me if im wrong, how come a dc fan work, connected directly to the coil without using any diodes? i've seen a pyramid before that purifies water, but not this kind, powering a 12V halogen lamp.... ??? maybe he use rechargable batteries inside the tube  :o ??? ??? ???
Another possibility would be that the stuff feeds rf - that rf would be rectified inside the fan by the protection diodes of the driver chip and decoupled by the internal capacitors. This again would add a DC compound to the source lines.
If your rf frequency is well above what the fan input circuitry can decouple (el.caps) - this would work.
Maybe not forever...
But in a setup with 1.5mm wire and pretty low source impedance I would exclude that.













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Observations:

Looking at an old video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMbHswNoGWM&playnext=1&list=PL7E73C5CC0455846A showing the first "pyramid power set up" from 2006) and at the new video from a few days ago (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nanotec99#p/u/13/3e0QvgGj2xs showing a new "pyramid power set up") gives the impression that the inventor is still using the same pyramid (made from rectangular cross section iron tubes and gypsum plates with the same ring and short round tube at the peak of the pyramid).

According to my opinion, an inventor or discoverer of "pyramid power" would build and show several pyramids in the course of five years, just to make his point? Since he claims to disclose "everything", showing several pyramids could not hurt his interests, to the contrary, it would greatly contribute to his credibility.

In the new videos http://www.youtube.com/user/Nanotec99 the inventor stresses the careful handling of the tube filled with quartz sand (filled under high voltage and frequency). Since no "compression of the sand" is allowed to happen, the sand will rearrange itself in case the tube is turned upside down. The inventor turns the tube several times upside down and back in the videos, it is also placed several times in a horizontal position. A "not compressed sand" will not keep its "spatial arrangement induced by high frequency or high tension" when handled like this. There will be a bit of empty space (most probably at the top) where the sand will flow into when the tube is turned upside down or placed horizontally.

According to my opinion, the filling of the sand and the subsequent handling of the filled tube is not consistent with its claimed properties. May be it does not mater how the sand is filled in and whether it moves a bit after filling, but the inventor is very adamant that the sand needs to stay in a very special spatial arrangement.

The only "strange" part of the whole pyramid is the filling of the quartz sand and its alleged "strange" properties. And this is not easy to reproduce, such giving an excuse in case the pyramid does not work.

I hope to see several different pyramids in coming videos of the inventor. If not, well .......

Greetings, Conrad

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I managed to see now all 13 videos over here in North Sweden on te road in ny camping mobile van via my mobile phone after a tire went flat and I had to change it in the middle of nowhere...

Anyway, if this really works to extract the power of leylines, this will be very interesting.
Would have loved to see some scopeshots.

Regards, Stefan.

conradelektro

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I managed to see now all 13 videos over here in North Sweden on te road in ny camping mobile van via my mobile phone after a tire went flat and I had to change it in the middle of nowhere...

Anyway, if this really works to extract the power of leylines, this will be very interesting.
Would have loved to see some scopeshots.

Regards, Stefan.

@Stefan: I saw all videos last night. First I was very enthusiastic, but after some long reflections this morning and considering what I know about Austrians (being an Austrian myself) I get some very skeptical feelings.

The behavior of the inventor is not what a discoverer of something really baffling would do. First of all one would build more than one "thing", simply to be able to show it to many people (even under a non disclosure agreement one needs more than one gadget to convince any one). And he claims that it takes about one day to build one and that it dose not cost too much. Even if it takes a week and on a tight budget, within five years one could have several.

In 2006 it was magnets, now it is quartz sand filled in a strange way which does the trick. This does not give me confidence. Tricks in 2006 make tricks in 2011 most likely.

The discoverer should show more devices, than it will be easier to believe him. Full disclosure looks different to what I see and hear in the videos. It is good show, but we need more than a show.

The inventor should invite you and show you several working pyramids. That would be full disclosure. I guess it would not matter to you whether it is "over unity" or "power harvesting from nature".

I tent to follow bolt's opinion: the pyramid receives power from a RF-transmitter somewhere near.

Greetings, Conrad

fritz

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First I was very enthusiastic, but after some long reflections this morning and considering what I know about Austrians (being an Austrian myself) I get some very skeptical feelings.
At least he is not from "Linz".

Otherwise if the outer pyramid construction influences the outcome only by a small degree - why should there be any reason to weld pyramids over and over if you have limited space.

In 2006 it was magnets
The "copymark" secret with the magnet was already exposed years ago.

now it is quartz sand filled in a strange way which does the trick. This does not give me confidence.
What gives you confidence ? A small signal transistor (selected out of 150pcs from conrad) operating in avalanche mode connected with 16 crocodile cables measured in undersampling math mode on a tek scope? gg.

Even if this type of equipment can be found in almost any Austrian attic (CB+"Billigziegel) - 
the other option of using an iginition coil - should be not that tricky for the average replicator.
Just start your car with one sparkplug disconnected ;-)))

The inventor should invite you and show you several working pyramids. That would be full disclosure. I guess it would not matter to you whether it is "over unity" or "power harvesting from nature".

(...) the inventor should invite you for a 6pack of beer and show you his series production line....
I think he is definitely bored of that way of disclosure.

Anyway - I  know some places with certified waterlines - so the overall effort shouldn´t be that much - the material used is cheaper than a solar panel with similar power. So I will build one this summer.
The "soup" on his V6 instructions was definitly to thin for me starting a construction project.
Now I have the feeling that the construction secrets are almost clear - and the construction principles are somewhat consistent.
What concerns the "wire" used it would make sense to use the same brand... because this type of wire has no specified dielectric property.

rgds.


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I think this is no fake.
Why should he do it like this ?

From all the videos you see, that he is really into pyramids and
that the old system was bought out by a big company, so he wanted to make money
with it.

I don´t see any reason for faking it.

He would make himself a real fool, if it would come out, that this is a fake.

And please no bad comments about the cothes of any user...

We will see, if somebody can replicate it.

He said to me, there is a guy that has a 3.8 Meter big pyramid
and I am already anxious to see his results.

Regards, Stefan.

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Hi OU Dot Com Guys,

Just my2cents.

I do not "feel" that this guy is a fake. To me, he is honest.
Of course, I can (must?) be wrong as I was too gullible with some other devices (this bl' f' alleged-self-running-on-cap-only "Window Motor", for example)...

Logically speaking: usually the con men are (were?) more "expeditious" and do not spend too much time making up their traps.
Now, to divert people from the right path, incite them to spend time and money and, finally, discourage them; some individuals (agents?) can (have to?) be more 'patient'...

Is it because "OU" is coming in plain sight?

The "Pyramid Man"'s device is a mix of:

1) Pyramid stuffs (claimed (and proved?), notably, to be able to maintain razor blades sharp without the auxiliary source of energy ; see: Karel Drbal, Prague, Patent Number 91304). OK.

2) Way of assembling coils a la DANIEL MCFARLAND COOK (patent US119825 -  Oct 10 1871).

3) Kinda way of building permanent magnets or (permanent also) electrets.

4) fuzzy 'Lost Science' stuffs (G. Vassilatos (a good book however, IMHO)).

Any-way I will not try to reproduce this device because:
1) I have no 20 watts CB amplifier. It is slang called a "slipper" and is forbidden in France.

2) He did not specify AM or FM.

Yes, I'm kidding. :P

So, finally, I do not know what to think about this device...
1) Is it genuine?

2) Is "Pyramid Man" a kinda "Electric Man" (sounds not):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY745NxZwsY

3) Or, is he another Daniel Pomerleau?:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Daniel_Pomerleau_Free_Energy_Coils

Very Best

PS : you know what?
An 'OU' electric unit is fine, but still rare and kept secret. Is-it not?

A Diesel Generator that runs of water alone (HHO) is *absolutely not* out of reach. Indeed; it is noisy but just noisy.

What about this boat with a 500 HP engine that runs on sea water only? :
http://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffreenrg.info%2FHydrogen%2FMIG_675%2F
In French : http://freenrg.info/Hydrogen/MIG_675/



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V12 circuit

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A new circuit by Patrick Kelly really works and it's true free energy. It's by an unknown Danish Developer. It's on chapter 7 page 8 of his free PDF book.  I suggest we all get into it and maybe figure out how to tune it to get more power. I recycled the components from 2 cfl's to make the circuit.
I use aluminium foil for the aerial. It works.
I promise you that you won't waste your time with this one.
It's worth developing.