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Author Topic: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils  (Read 72992 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« on: June 28, 2011, 07:50:31 PM »
Hi All,
please have a look at this new video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwkrbJOkM4

The author gave me permission to copy it to my youtube channel and
said, he wanted to make it widely known.

He claims, that he is working on a bigger unit and will soon also upload
the video of the bigger unit to youtube.


What do you think about it ?

Looks to me like a Perendev motor with some helper coils...

Any idea, how the helper coils could be working ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 07:58:27 PM »
P.S: The inventor wrote on his channel:

He wrote about this video:

In this opportunity i would like to show you a completely magnetic motor. This kind of motor DOES NOT need to be supply by any kind of battery, or electrical net or solar energy, because it uses his own alimentation by spinning. And, at the same time, can generates extra electric current (as we can see, the led lights connected to the motor are on).

The principle is easy to understand. All the motors have one rotor and one stator, but in this motor, we have three neodymium discs (instead of a rotor) and two neodymium rings (instead of a stator) and one last neodymium ring that functions as a magnetic oscillator, self-excited by a stage of captors. This captors commutes the magnet's polarities.

This very same principle its now being use in our last prototype: 1 HP (600 W free). We will upload as soon as possible an explication video for the HP.

The prototype that you seeing in this video provides 50 W free (12V CC - 4 Amp).
===========

Regards, STefan.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2011, 08:29:48 PM »
I am delighted to see new progress on a magnet motor.
The helper coil could be helping the rotor get over the
sweet spot between the magnetic fields where it can stick.
Also the coils could be acting the other way, like an alternator,
generating power to run the LEDs...

This is the same concept as what I am doing with The Bucking
Magnet Motor, but this guy has started with Perendev's and
added an alternator.  While I went off on my own tangent...

We're going to see a lot more stuff like this in the future...

Edit:  He had to spin it before engaging the stator, that means
that it is not self starting.  I want mine to self start.  Also he
is running LEDs, I am lighting incandescent bulbs...

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 08:51:20 PM »
Isn't it awesome how strong the brightness of the LEDs are when he spins it with his hand? He must have a couple of collector coils and very good ones too. I wonder if he will publish detailed instructions.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 09:14:58 PM »
P.S: His website is:

http://torianproyect.blogspot.com/

but there is not yet any more info.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 05:38:59 AM »

Hi Harti_Berlin,

Thank you for pointing out this new device.
As far as I can catch it, it works 'tangentially' (side by side).

IMHO, this is a very subtle idea to deal with the "sticky point".
This let me think about the Latin way of seduction: no confrontation just suggestion.
Yes, I'm getting too "scientifical".  ;D

BTW:  my best regards to Z-Monkey.

Very Best

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 01:04:17 PM »
BTW:  my best regards to Z-Monkey.
Howdy NerzhDishual,
J'espère que vous faites bien...
I hope the translator worked right...

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2011, 11:13:17 PM »
Hi All,
please have a look at this new video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViwkrbJOkM4

The author gave me permission to copy it to my youtube channel and
said, he wanted to make it widely known.

He claims, that he is working on a bigger unit and will soon also upload
the video of the bigger unit to youtube.


What do you think about it ?

Looks to me like a Perendev motor with some helper coils...

Any idea, how the helper coils could be working ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
The only thing we need to do, is to let the device itself provide the energy to run the helper coils instead of the LED's. If the machine then really do selfrun, we have the real deal. Maybe you could ask him to try that. It should be pretty easy to try.

Then we will know for shure how the helper coils are working, and how much power they consume versus the power output.

EDIT: I was pretty fast there. I can see it runs. So where is the hidden battery, and why is it accidently providing the power to run the LEDs without burning them out? Why is the RPM so stable?

A device which runs on pure magnetism, should not have back EMF to limit the RPM. The RPM should increase out of control. But it shure does look pretty stable...

Vidar

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 10:30:18 PM »

@Z.Monkey

The translator gave a very understandable translation but no a very accurate one for a French "nitpicker" (nitpicking is one of some French people favorite fad  ;D).

Google gives:
I hope that you are doing well = J'espère que vous faites bien.

To be accurate, according to Google, the English sentence should have been:
"I hope that you are going good" = J'espère que vous allez bien.

BTW: Yes, I'm doing well and also "going good", but I still not have found anything 'OU'.  :-\
Now, I'm into 'HHO'...


----------------------

I'm under the impression (= I strongly do believe) that our Official Science does not still catch very well (good) what is going on with "electricity" and "magnetism".

Very Best

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 10:30:18 PM »
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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 12:34:31 AM »
I think science understand electricity and magnetism quite well. How could science ever predict within very narrow tolerances how an electric motor would run in real life versus the mathematical simulations? Energy is a process, not something that is created. Energy is temporary, a process of equalization between two different potentials. Nature hates differences. And I cannot think of one simple reason why nature should make any  exceptions.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 01:31:59 AM »

@Low-Q (the 'misnamed', IMHO).

I beg to differ (I do like this expression  :D) about Mainstream Science.
To me: Mainstream Science sucks despite some equations.

Anyway, It will cost me too much (not free!) NRG to argue.

Meanwhile, I do not diverge about your views upon NRG.

I was just expressing a strong 'belief', indeed, but a mere belief'.
Please 'believe' me, it is not so easy to discuss, debate, argue in another language
that you native one, especially when you have learnt it from 'outside'. .

But perhaps, English is not your native language also?
In that case : "chapeau!". You got it right.

My aim, here, is not to confront with anybody, but, on the contrary, to befriend
with some individual and to, as far as I'm able to, give some information.

Very Best

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »
but I still not have found anything 'OU'.  :-\
Concerning overunity, I let loose a spiel here...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6944.msg292305#msg292305

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 01:23:08 PM »
This looks like a Perendev motor. Those coils for generating electricity to those leds.

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 12:36:44 AM »

@Z-Monkey

Thanks a lot for your link. OU dot com is so huge.
I have not still read the whole thread.

I was not accurate when I said "but I still not have found anything 'OU'".

I actually meant : I have not achieved *myself* any experiment that
shows any (so called) "OU".

Or? Did you get me right and were the 2 letters 'OU' that repulsed you?

You preach to the choir... "OU" is misnamed and Free NRG can be
very expensive, especially when sold by some con artists...

Anyway, I use "OU" because, to me, "OU" means:
No more fossil fuel.
No more "Fuck U Shima Die Itchy".
No More PWB/(W?) Kontrol.
Yes, I'm dreaming... :P

I'm under the impression that achieving "OU" (being able to catch
NRG from some still not officially recognized 'outside' source) is (still)
 a matter of Mojo/Magic (like dowsing) and that only some individuals are gifted with.

I sounds like that the "OU paradigm" is not enough "engraved" in the so called
"collective conscientiousness".  Rupert Sheldrake?

Anyway, I can feel that the 2011 year should be a beginning.

Very best

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Re: Argentinean Magnet Motor selfrunning with helper coils
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 04:37:42 AM »
P.S: The inventor wrote on his channel:

He wrote about this video:

In this opportunity i would like to show you a completely magnetic motor. This kind of motor DOES NOT need to be supply by any kind of battery, or electrical net or solar energy, because it uses his own alimentation by spinning. And, at the same time, can generates extra electric current (as we can see, the led lights connected to the motor are on).

The principle is easy to understand. All the motors have one rotor and one stator, but in this motor, we have three neodymium discs (instead of a rotor) and two neodymium rings (instead of a stator) and one last neodymium ring that functions as a magnetic oscillator, self-excited by a stage of captors. This captors commutes the magnet's polarities.

This very same principle its now being use in our last prototype: 1 HP (600 W free). We will upload as soon as possible an explication video for the HP.

The prototype that you seeing in this video provides 50 W free (12V CC - 4 Amp).
===========

Regards, STefan.
my issue is (and you all undertsand my brain is a logic computer nothing more) is that the disks as shown numbers 2 and 3 do nothing, the proof is simple, if these two disks can trun the machine from the alignment of the disks, then they can do it without the first disk, if thgey cannot, then they do not contribute to the macine. There is no connection other than the sahft, so there is no input from the rest of the machine, thus they help by self truning or do not help.  I end this with simply saying that i do not question oif the machine works or not, it it too complex without any specs (as usual) so to me if it runs, only the front disk does this, again if the two rear disks trun the machine then they can do it without the front section, if not the front section is carrying the last two disks. That is my logic view, use it or dont.

 

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