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Author Topic: This could really work, new from LaFonte Research Group  (Read 26358 times)

gammarayburst

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Note on drawing from Butch
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2011, 08:35:31 PM »
"Notice that if you have equal amounts of steel from the magnets you get repulsion, but if they are unequal you get attraction.
Butch"

gammarayburst

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Possible reason for the effect, from Butch
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2011, 09:33:44 PM »
"I think it is because the longer steel has more domains and it over powers (reverses) the domains of the shorter steel and the system goes into an attraction mode?
Butch"

gammarayburst

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Animation of earlier design, from Butch
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2011, 04:42:06 AM »
"See attached animation link,
Butch"
Link > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu5KfPHFAVg

gammarayburst

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Second proof of concept from Butch
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2011, 05:04:39 AM »
"See attached,
3 bar pairs, 2 fixed, 1 moving.
Butch"

gammarayburst

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Imagine 50 NIB magnets, from Butch
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2011, 05:44:03 PM »
From Butch,
"In the drawing above try to imagine 50 NIB magnets stacked in place of the 4 shown. Also all magnets move down to the transfer bar area except the magnet at the hinge point. This way no force is needed to overcome any magnet as in the previous design where one magnet force out of the group had to be overcome.
Butch"

gammarayburst

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From Butch, Need replication
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2011, 06:21:07 PM »
"Can you replicate this test?
See if you get attraction with 7 to 3 washers and when they are all together use a razor blade to seperate for a 5 to 5 ratio and see if they repel apart.
Thanks,
Butch"

petersone

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Re: This could really work, new from LaFonte Research Group
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2011, 12:00:42 PM »
Hi Butch
I tried that,and it woks as you said,there is some repulsion with 7/3 but they go to attract as they come together,I didn't need a razor blade to separate 5/5,they flew apart on there own!!!
I can't see the point of it,but I'm sure you will enlighten us,all quite fascinating though.
peter

gammarayburst

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Re: This could really work, new from LaFonte Research Group
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2011, 03:05:47 PM »
Hi Butch
I tried that,and it woks as you said,there is some repulsion with 7/3 but they go to attract as they come together,I didn't need a razor blade to separate 5/5,they flew apart on there own!!!
I can't see the point of it,but I'm sure you will enlighten us,all quite fascinating though.
peter
"Peter,
I will make a drawing and post today. I feel this may open up a new area of research and development.
It's interesting seeing two magnets in repulsion pull to each other and then switch back to repulsion.
Thanks for doing the replication.
Butch"

Low-Q

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Re: From Butch, Need replication
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2011, 08:13:43 PM »
"Can you replicate this test?
See if you get attraction with 7 to 3 washers and when they are all together use a razor blade to seperate for a 5 to 5 ratio and see if they repel apart.
Thanks,
Butch"
I have tested this now. It is repulsion no matter how the washers are configured. However, if there is no washers on one magnet, there will be attraction if the "naked" magnet gets close enough to the washers on the other magnet. Before that, there is repulsion. With one washer on one magnet, and 5 washers on the other magnet, there is repulsion all the way. The same with 3 washers on each magnet.

Vidar

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Re: To Peter
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2011, 09:20:16 PM »
Peter, did you get the same results as Vidar?

gammarayburst

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New animation from Butch, Rotary Pseudo Solid proof of concept
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2011, 08:09:43 PM »

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Dbowling

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Re: This could really work, new from LaFonte Research Group
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2011, 01:44:07 AM »
This is all very interesting, and you may have something, but when are you going to take the plunge and build an actual working device to demonstrate the concept instead of using the 3d animations? That's the way you will get people to pay attention, and probably the ONLY way. "If you build it, they will come." You've shown a couple simple models you could build, but they have moving parts that are not accounted for by magnetic attraction or repulsion, which means you have to produce enough energy from the magnetic attraction or repulsion to loop the system, which is what everyone is waiting for you to prove you can do.