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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 328515 times)

scotty1

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2011, 01:14:17 PM »
Hi all...No disrespect to Maximilliano, but people all over the net promote that document as Ed's actual work.  ???
The wording is Ed's yes, but not the diagrams ect ect.

The diagram I posted was from the section where Ed describes Lenz's law.
This project has had so many delays i probably shouldn't say anything  :-\ but i hope to get it all done this year.
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2011, 09:05:35 PM »
I need to understand Lenz's law ! Can you post any pages related to that ?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2011, 10:55:51 PM »
Gosh Scotty!,
I sure hope you didn't find my request for clarification harsh.

Most of us (Thought we) knew that anything other than the
written words in that document were from Maximiliano Taverna.

Your an awsome poster, and a person whom might know more accurately
what the real story on the text/sketch aspect of all this is personally
if your also Loadstone @ EF, and I can go by your posts in the thread referenced.

My head spun when I saw you word it like this:
"...that document was not written by Leedskalnin",
I was truely hoping I read/interpreted that wrong somehow.

We all have lives tearing us from what we would rather do,
so we all understand it may be a while to finish a CAD project.  ;)

I, for one, look forward to a corrected set of illustrations
to go with Ed's thoughts comitted to paper we all know.

Best of luck with that endeavor sir.  :)



On this threads topic now,
has anyone noticed a similarity to this linear example,
and the rotary example used everywhere on power poles ?

When you take apart a step-down transformer from a pole,
and get past that lovely gooey dialectric they use in them,
all you have is a yodel of metal plates forming induction coupling.

there are no "Windings" in the traditional sense,
as one might expect to find in there...

One can get the impression they are just like
the typical layout of an electrolytic capacitor,
but things I have read on forums by power workers
seem to indicate they believe they operate by induction.

That is not far from the preposed "magnetic current" postulated here,
just rolled up like a yodel into a more compact form for utility use.

If his linear illustrative example model was rolled up,
we would all just call it a transformer and be done with it.

By being a set of straight wires, it still is a transformer,
but it makes us think a little harder about the whole thing,
and just what it is that might be happening there, right ?

totoalas

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2011, 11:32:27 PM »
One Wire   supply  by Lidmotor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6GADVRbso

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2011, 12:48:39 AM »
@ Totoalas

Can you please fix that YouTube Link above, because it doesn't work.


Thank you.

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totoalas

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2011, 01:15:48 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa6GADVRbso
Hi Fatbird
Ps check Lidmotor channel in youtube

Muller Dynamo driven by a SEC 18 exciter.ASF

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Is one-wire energy transfer something very old?
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2011, 10:59:35 PM »
It's amazing that something that we think it's new and "could be lost", is something that it has been known and apparently very used.

Yesterday I was thinking about that when I saw the bumper cars. I noticed that the cars have like an antenna that is in contact with a high-voltage net. But... what is the important point here? It seems that the antenna is only one wire, and they receive the power from the antenna.

Also, I usually use the train. In the city I live the train is electric and doesn't use fossil fuel. If you look at the power line, the train is using exactly the same technique like the bumper car (at least apparently).
The electric cable is using only 1 wire!! And those trains use several KiloWatt to move.

Here you have the picture:

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Re: Is one-wire energy transfer something very old?
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2011, 11:37:37 PM »
It's amazing that something that we think it's new and "could be lost", is something that it has been known and apparently very used.

Yesterday I was thinking about that when I saw the bumper cars. I noticed that the cars have like an antenna that is in contact with a high-voltage net. But... what is the important point here? It seems that the antenna is only one wire, and they receive the power from the antenna.

Also, I usually use the train. In the city I live the train is electric and doesn't use fossil fuel. If you look at the power line, the train is using exactly the same technique like the bumper car (at least apparently).
The electric cable is using only 1 wire!! And those trains use several KiloWatt to move.

Here you have the picture:

Trams/train are used approximately 1000V DC. Wire in the air is positive (+1000 V), the rails are negative (-).

Two wires!

IotaYodi

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2011, 12:46:47 AM »
Bumper cars are essentially the same. The ceiling is one polarity and the floor for the other completing the circuit. They now use alternating strips on the floor. A Ge employee invented the bumper car. 

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2011, 10:02:34 AM »
Thank you very much for the information.  :-[
I didn't know about that.

Maybe this could be useful?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line

Single Wire circuits:
1) Tesla
2) Brovin-Kacher
3) Avramenko
4) Milutin
5) http://www.google.com/patents?id=Qj7TAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA6&dq=%22single+wire%22&hl=en&ei=C4wJTuadLYiZ8QO209WTAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q&f=true

6) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=20000822&CC=US&NR=6108751A&KC=A

7) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=19851203&CC=US&NR=4556958A&KC=A      ***

8) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=20060629&CC=US&NR=2006140284A1&KC=A1

9) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=19980915&CC=US&NR=5809519A&KC=A

10) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=19980915&CC=US&NR=5809518A&KC=A

11) http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&adjacent=true&locale=en_GB&FT=D&date=20000829&CC=US&NR=6112275A&KC=A


Fuc*... there are tons of patens of a single line transmission of power And/or information. LOL

http://www.google.es/patents?id=PSsnAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA9&dq=%22single+line%22+AND+power&hl=en&ei=DJQJTsbpOImg8QO2k_F0&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBTgU#v=onepage&q=%22single%20line%22%20AND%20power&f=false


http://www.google.es/patents?id=lMGCAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA19&dq=%22single+line%22+AND+power&hl=en&ei=tJMJTqaNF9S68gPB6LCTAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=%22single%20line%22%20AND%20power&f=false

http://www.google.es/patents?id=a50eAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA7&dq=%22single+line%22+AND+power&hl=en&ei=tJMJTqaNF9S68gPB6LCTAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=%22single%20line%22%20AND%20power&f=false

http://www.google.es/patents?id=ZA8jAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA8&dq=%22single+line%22+AND+power&hl=en&ei=kJMJTqyOKcuy8QOe5dhu&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22single%20line%22%20AND%20power&f=false

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2011, 05:29:44 PM »

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2011, 12:57:24 AM »
Can somebody call the inventor to see if he will give us a Wiring Diagram?
Please explain to him that since he already applied for a patent, nobody can steal it from him.

Milutin Miletic, Varos bb, 37215 Razanj, Serbia, tel: +38137600290

Thanks.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2011, 07:57:42 AM »
I'll call him. Suggestions for questions i should ask him.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2011, 10:50:12 AM »
I think nothing more, I don't know if he will want to give you some details of the schematics, but try. If not, you can ask to him to get your own ideas and details about the technique he is using.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #89 on: June 29, 2011, 12:01:22 PM »
I'll call him. Suggestions for questions i should ask him.


Today I spoke with MM and at the beginning he said that he is very happy that someone is interested  for his work after some period of time. In an interview with him, it was difficult to understand him due  the speech in his age and because of poor telephone connections.

MM has said that the patent is secret until it is established that the MM is actually the one who invented the thing. The patent was filed in Serbia.

When asked whether he wanted to say something about the method of manufacturing wires or  hidden passage of three wires in one, he said that he will not talk about it because this is his secret. When I explained to him that he had already filed a patent to him and no one can steal or take from him the invention or patent, he told me that we need to spoke about the presentation or any other information with his delegate who is his neighbor (tel. +38137841787, name: Dzukic Zika- original = Đukić Žika) .

In an interview, the only thing he said  is that copper is the best conductor of electricity (on question about wire mixture).

After talking with MM I get the impression that MM would be willing to give information about the wire and method of manufacture of a relatively small investment. ( He said that he had in the past, man who has invested 1000 EUR (thousand) for the wire put on the market in Italy, but later he do not know what happened to this man.)

MM does not have access to the Internet for discussion on forum, neither his neighbur .

For now thats is all and I personaly think that MM will not give any information over the phone or without any investement.