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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 195335 times)

Offline stAtrill

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #150 on: August 12, 2011, 03:36:45 PM »
@StAtrill
Spot on. Read about so called Tesla Hairpin or Lecher lines.
It would be interesting to put a pick-up line ALONG pulsed transmission line. Induced voltages due to electric field component would be large.Doe anybody tested such setup?

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Whoa, I feel like I've almost jumped down the rabbit hole on this one. Digging deeper, this seems like It'd be sooo easy to replicate. I don't have the means to, but why wouldn't anyone else?

This could be an extremely useful invention.
(Also, from the sites I've been digging at suggest that there may be more to electrical flow than just current. Good discovery to be made?)

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2011, 07:50:52 PM »
I just watched the video, guys too. This looks to e little bit of fishy, to me! In other words looks like two wires concealed in one and with some kind of copper shielding. Since didn't look like there was some kind of RF or EMF present. Then it's hard to give any credit.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2011, 01:50:49 AM »
Okay guys, chalk this one up as solved.

I was corresponding with an EE friend of mine from the EU and his response was that this was nothing new, and that single wire transmission systems already exist commercially, but are typically more lossy than traditional two wire systems (which is why they are rarely used).

So, I went and did some digging.
This turned up: http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html

Someone notify this inventor that he has merely reinvented the wheel, prior art for this invention dates back to 1898.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line

So, this could be replicated by someone with merely a long length of wire. Unfortunately I don't even have this, but it shouldn't take 2 hours to build the transmission line as defined in the American Scientist article. Also, look at the date of the article: 1999

This is way old news apparently.

Lol at the guys who think they can tell a hoax from a fairly uninformative video.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #152 on: August 18, 2011, 01:50:49 AM »
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Offline Qwert

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #153 on: August 19, 2011, 12:57:37 AM »
Nothing new when it's "lossy". This is absolutely NEW since the inventor claims that his invention performs better, comparing two-wire systems.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #154 on: August 19, 2011, 01:43:57 AM »
@ stAtrill,

If it is SO SIMPLE like you infer in your post, why can't anybody on OverUnity duplicate it?

PLUS, I don't see any coils wrapped around another coil like your URL Link shows.

I only see 3 PARALLEL WIRES side by side.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #154 on: August 19, 2011, 01:43:57 AM »
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Offline Mem

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #155 on: August 19, 2011, 04:36:29 AM »
You can watch the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbwMAxxYcvE&NR=1 it looked odd when I saw that two prong plug on the video. Doesn't feel like it's one wire. More like two wires in one.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #156 on: August 19, 2011, 06:40:41 AM »
Mem, you are great! (My sarcasm). And since you have the solution, check it now in practice.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #156 on: August 19, 2011, 06:40:41 AM »
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Offline stAtrill

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #157 on: August 19, 2011, 09:38:39 AM »
@ stAtrill,

If it is SO SIMPLE like you infer in your post, why can't anybody on OverUnity duplicate it?

PLUS, I don't see any coils wrapped around another coil like your URL Link shows.

I only see 3 PARALLEL WIRES side by side.

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Read back through this thread. I'm not sure about you, but it definitely doesn't look to me as if anyone has replicated the method I suggested. Of all of the overly complicated methods others suggested, it seems that no serious replication attempt has taken place, and furthermore, the majority of this thread is wild speculation. Think about it, do you really think you can properly insulate 120 volts against ground with any kind of coating reasonably available to public, with the whole wire sandwich remaining obviously thin enough to be mistaken as a single wire? Before answering this question, look at the computer you're on right now and the wire leaving your wall that feeds it.

Returning to reason, this appears to be nothing more that a tesla coil with a second primary coil. The tesla coil is, by design, a single wire transmission system (originally crafted as part of his wireless transmission system to use the air as the dielectric). The inner coil is connected to nothing, and only magnetically coupled with the primary. This being said, adding a second coil to the opposite end of the inner coil will allow you to extract the energy imparted into the inner coil by the primary. And if you weren't building a 'true' tesla coil (i.e. one that ramps voltage up to the hundreds of kVolts), the primary coils could easily be small enough to fit in his 'hidden areas'.

Knowing your type can never be this easily satisfied, allow me to preempt your further arguments:
-Yes, that means the third wire (ground) is entirely useless. Remember he is trying to patent this, he wouldn't get far if his video gave everything away.
-The inner coil DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A COIL over the length that does not directly interact with the primary coils. It could easily be straightened out and function normally.
-This is the simplest solution that assumes the least, and Occam's razor dictates this method should be tried first.
-No, I haven't tried it myself.
-And yes, I will be happy to try it myself, once I get back from vacation.

How about this: try it first.
Then tell me it's impossible.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #158 on: October 15, 2011, 09:32:29 PM »
   I'm guessing about this devices working principles that some what vhf band oscillator on one hand reciever at the other but 500w vhf band transponder quite big so do not fit into the plug? diode bank may have fit there.how do tunnel diodes behave? do general diodes have tunnelling effect? I think some of you get the idea. it may be wrong mounted bridge rectifier diodes...(please don't ask me how the electric circuit was.I am imagining about that)

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #158 on: October 15, 2011, 09:32:29 PM »
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #159 on: November 18, 2012, 11:31:31 PM »
This is great stuff!
How does he do that?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #160 on: November 19, 2012, 12:32:20 AM »
I wish some of these inventors would tell us how they work so we can verify it.
 

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #160 on: November 19, 2012, 12:32:20 AM »
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #162 on: November 19, 2012, 07:39:00 PM »
I wish some of these inventors would tell us how they work so we can verify it.

Well, he's got the drill motor, the light bulbs.... what more proof do you need, an electric heater? A fan? Some people are just never satisfied.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #163 on: November 19, 2012, 07:40:38 PM »
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121031&CC=RS&NR=20110026A2&KC=A2

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Invention herewith described refers to the safety electric power transmission cable. The insulation (2) should be placed around the voltage conductor (3) and the metal sheath has to be put around the insulation (2) as a grounding conductor (1).

Revolutionary! Why didn't I think of that!

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #164 on: November 20, 2012, 10:10:58 AM »
Of course, that is back to the 'wire within a wire' idea. If that was the case, why not use just normal coax? There is also a problem with this idea: if you plate the wire solidly over the insulation sheath, you run the risk of delamination of the sheath or insulation or both - the wire would essentially be unbendable or it would fall apart. And whats more, is I am not aware of any process in the world that allows you to adhere metal onto a soft material (like any plastic/rubber insulation). The wire-within-a-wire was perfected with coax, which uses metal foil or mesh as the second layer.


I have a feeling this draws more from antenna theory than from circuit theory. Driven at the right frequency, you have a steel core coil with a secondary sharing the same core. You could tune that to be exceptionally efficient (and even with no tuning you should still show a voltage on your secondary). Looks like JLN did an experiment on this a while ago:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/megjln01.htm


In his experiment, he did the same thing: two coils sharing a common core. He just happened to also test mounting a permanent magnet to the core as well.


Some food for thought.

 

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