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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic  (Read 328507 times)

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #135 on: July 30, 2011, 11:48:09 PM »
I found somebody that speaks Serbian and we watched the Milutin's videos together and he translated for me.

I now have a new theory about how he makes the wire,  and yes he actually makes the wire in his barn with the cows standing around.

He does not heat up molten metal and draw out wires,  oh no, that's not what he does.   He uses chemicals and mixes them, so ask yourself what can you do in a barn with some chemicals?

Here's the answers:

1)   He does ELECTROPLATING on an EXISTING WIRE.

2)   He deposits layers upon layers, starting with a thin wire,  first he deposits an insulating layer, than another conductor layer,  then another insulating layer.

3)  Than he just connects the Hot and Ground wires from his outlet straight to the ends of his layered wire that he produces.  It's like a thin cylindrical capacitor almost. 


This is a very simple technology.  He uses conductors and normal current flows through "one" wire, which is not one wire at all, but multiple wires separated by an oxide layer as insulation, with a final insulating layer on the outside so you don't get electrocuted.

EM

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #136 on: July 31, 2011, 12:32:50 AM »
  Thank you for that explanation.  Sounds very simple. The electroplating is not difficult to do, possibly with a ready made machine for that purpose.  But, how does he electroplate the insulating layer, or what might that actually be??? 
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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #137 on: July 31, 2011, 02:39:54 AM »
Another catch: he transmits more power through thinner wire.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #138 on: July 31, 2011, 10:32:19 AM »
EMDevices

There is one contradicting factor: he said we can safely cut the wire

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #139 on: July 31, 2011, 06:02:23 PM »
 There may be what appear as contradictions. The point is that it works, and can be much more economical to use in that form.  The only problem is that you need to have a source in the first place, and what happens if there is no source to depend on? Back to the drawing board?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #140 on: August 01, 2011, 02:50:27 AM »
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Another catch: he transmits more power through thinner wire.
May be using high frequency currents and its skin effects.

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There is one contradicting factor: he said we can safely cut the wire
Could be some type of fault interrupter.

The electroplating is interesting. With the thinner layers possibly using high frequency currents and its skin effects ,it may be what hes doing.

Wonder if this type of scheme might work on solid iron core coils. An iron core,insulation,copper plating,insulation,iron tube or iron electroplating,insulation,copper plating and so on.  As mentioned just like a capacitor.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #141 on: August 01, 2011, 09:22:43 PM »
  Somehow this reminds me of what Otto from Zagreb, had mentioned about using the tin plated copper wire for the TPU device replications, working as a semiconductor at room temps. There might be some similarities.
  I can see the metal electroplating of the wire as the easy part, but what is used for the insulator layer, and how is that electroplated???
 I hope this idea gets the patent so that we can know more about it.
  Maybe it can be connected to solar panels instead of using grid power.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2011, 03:00:51 AM »
Insulation is a coating,
could be dipped and drawn,
or attracted by electro-spray,
like they do for cars, etc.

The thickness could be controlled by viscosity the first way,
and by time of doposition in the second method (before the heat curing).

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2011, 07:04:37 PM »
I sure wish we could figure out how he did that.
It's a shame he won't share it with the world.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2011, 08:36:00 PM »
I sure wish we could figure out how he did that.
Don't we all.  Radiant high voltage from a Tesla hairpin circuit can be safely handled in a bowl of water.  Is his circuit that safe?
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It's a shame he won't share it with the world.
Some people are greedy.  Other are afraid.  A few may be both.  But, I agree with you.  I'd just like to look at a schematic.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2011, 10:21:36 PM »
Good points.  I think you are right.

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #146 on: August 09, 2011, 04:37:13 PM »
So I was doing a bit of reading over at http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/em.htm and apparently (eg, according to the doctor who authored the site) the maxwell equations have no provisions for the interactions of TEM waves, neither with each other or at boundaries. So this doctor and a few of his buddies took it upon themselves to do some experimental research, and they found:

1) TEM pulses can exist in superposition
2) This superposition is governed by whether the pulses are similar or dissimilar
3) TEM pulses will reflect at a boundary
4) Superimposed pulses can change the reflection or scattering pattern of the TEM pulse, and help each other across junctions

Now, my math may be a bit shaky, as I just graduated from high school, but given a dielectric with length L and an arbitrarily high permittivity, and given that a TEM pulse propagates at speed c, then you could create a standing wave in the wire by applying alternating square pulses of the length L divided by the harmonic n.
You would have pulses traveling both up and down the wire at speed C and antinodes at every 0.5*L/N. Should you join a loop to the end of the wire, things start getting tricky. Properly superimposed dissimilar pulses shouldn't reflect (as their sums would be zero), but would instead propagate both north and south down the loop, and the two pulses should add up to the energy of the original pulses in the first dielectric via conservation laws (as we currently know them).

We have solved the first problem, energy transfer via one wire. Now, we must create method to extract work from these pulses. Because I have no experience, I am warning that I am purely speculating. But, It seems reasonable to me to simply place the load in the wire at an antinode of the pulses. I know its not that simple, because adding a resistor would cause a small reflection of the TEM pulses, either introducing noise into the system (that could prevent you from extracting current from the full difference of the voltages) or changing the apparent length of the system such that the load is at a node and sees no difference in voltages from which to extract current. So, I am thinking this problem could be solved by a carefully constructed diode circuit, or by 'tuning' the pulses and dielectric wire lengths for a specific load?

What do you guys think? I'm personally very much enjoying that site, I too believe our laws of physics are in for a refresher.

EDIT: This is not likely how he did it, but I'm thinking this could very well be another solution to the same problem. I'd experiment, but unfortunately I don't have a signal generator (or enough EM knowledge).

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #147 on: August 09, 2011, 08:03:51 PM »
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« Last Edit: August 10, 2011, 06:11:32 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2011, 08:34:49 PM »
@StAtrill
Spot on. Read about so called Tesla Hairpin or Lecher lines.
It would be interesting to put a pick-up line ALONG pulsed transmission line. Induced voltages due to electric field component would be large.Doe anybody tested such setup?

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Serbian inventor Milutin Miletic
« Reply #149 on: August 10, 2011, 03:34:54 PM »
  This link was posted on the Jule thief thread, but I though that on this tread is where it should be placed.
  http://www.keelynet.com/energy/milan.htm