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Author Topic: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom  (Read 91773 times)

Offline Airstriker

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2011, 09:51:43 AM »
Third scenario:

Both engine magnet and runner sphere magnets repelling each other on the same platform BUT moving together as one unit continuously.

You mean sphere or ring magnet ? You were using ring magnets - design change ?

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2011, 02:54:37 PM »
Tom
You must have an amazing mind to have achieved success where so many have failed!
On to whom much is given .......Much is required!!
  Don't let this achievment just blow in the wind..........
you will never control something this big,
Take this bull by the horns !![Steer]


TEACH!!

We've never been this way before !!
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2011, 03:14:12 PM »

You have two magnets repelling each other. The lead magnet (runner)
moves forward, the second magnet or engine magnet moves backward according to Newtons third law.
They seperate a distance then nothing happens.

Second scenario:

The engine magnet CAN NOT move backward now:
THe runner magnet will still move forwad and leave the stationary engine magnet behind it  untill it reaches a distance then it stops.

Third scenario:

Both engine magnet and runner sphere magnets repelling each other on the same platform BUT moving together as one unit continuously  Thats where I am at now
 

Tom
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Tom,
Does the device start out slow then accelerate to some faster RPM limit?
How long have you left it running?

If you need any help with custom parts or design work to get this project moving, I would be happy to assist you.



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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2011, 03:14:12 PM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2011, 04:01:19 PM »
You mean sphere or ring magnet ? You were using ring magnets - design change ?

Sphere magnets.  Ring magnets were to heavy and I found I did not need gravity at all.

Tom

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2011, 04:15:13 PM »
Tom,
Does the device start out slow then accelerate to some faster RPM limit?
How long have you left it running?

 This device starts out like a racehorse and to tell the truth I have not found a practical way to vary the speed .  To slow it down or stop it I have to place a very large ring magnet near it without the setup or ring magnet colliding with each other.

Part of the spinning platform is heavy so it does not run away with blinding speed.

I would like to find someone that can cut a 3/8 inch  diameter titanium rod and thread one end of it to 16 threads per inch spec.
All done without marring or scratching up the rod.   Thats a power drive shaft  Titanium is extremely hard to machine.  I have a long rod to cut if anyone is capable of doing this.  I am using a grade 316 non magnetic stainless steel rod at present.

Tom

If you need any help with custom parts or design work to get this project moving, I would be happy to assist you.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2011, 04:15:13 PM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2011, 04:45:04 PM »
Where are the current links to the video's, the other links seem broken.

thanks.
Jerry

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2011, 04:50:03 PM »
Hi Guys,

A one year countdown starts whenever I post anything directly describing my for sale unpatented device in DETAIL or post a video on the You Tube describing it. That means its PUBLIC DOMAIN and I have 1 year to patent it from date of posting. No one except me as the original inventor can do this during that 1 year time frame. After that the device is fair game for anyone to patent.
A patent lawyer gave me that advice.


This works beautiful for me as the whole world will now know how to build it.  Whomever contacts me during the 1 year time frame can set up arrangements with me to purchase patening rights knowing full well that anyone in the world can construct it.  If  interested partys do not contact me before the years end then they risk their competition patening the device first     I loose after 1 year but its worth the risk to me.

Its a win-win situation for the world and me.

Tom

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2011, 05:34:25 PM »
Tom
A link to Titanium bolts on Ebay
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R40&_trksid=p3841.m39.l1313&_nkw=titanium%20bolts&_sacat=&rvr_id=250980462170&clk_rvr_id=250980462170&rawquery=used+titanium+bolts&MT_ID=338&crlp=50861566_9887&tt_encode=raw&keyword=titanium+bolts&geo_id=491

I am not a wealthy man by any standard ,but I will pay for your Test bolt
with Paypal .
No strings attached to me .............EVER!

Chetkremens@gmail.com

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2011, 06:28:03 PM »
Tom,
The titanium bolt would probably work too. I was a CNC machinist for 15yrs then a design engineer for 15yrs and I have a shed full of industrial CNC equipment for any purpose I desire. I just made some titanium parts for SPAWARS and it's not a problem. I also have TIG, wire and stick welders so I can fabricate parts from most metals. 

If you have a year to patent, then maybe you could design in CAD a working device and just sell plans on the net! You might be surprised how much you would earn in a year!



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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2011, 06:28:03 PM »
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2011, 07:43:15 PM »
Tom,
The titanium bolt would probably work too. I was a CNC machinist for 15yrs then a design engineer for 15yrs and I have a shed full of industrial CNC equipment for any purpose I desire. I just made some titanium parts for SPAWARS and it's not a problem. I also have TIG, wire and stick welders so I can fabricate parts from most metals. 

If you have a year to patent, then maybe you could design in CAD a working device and just sell plans on the net! You might be surprised how much you would earn in a year!
 

The titanium rod I need is 3/8 inches in diameter, 5 3/4 inches long, with a 1 3/8 inch tread on one end of the rod.  16 threads per inch.

To hard for me to cut and thread with the equipment I have. All I would do is scratch up the rods surface.  I already have a 12 inch section of rod to work with.

I am trying for the most uncomplicated/inexpensive route to do all of this. Patenting can turn into a costly mess which will go no where after spending a fortune.  Anyhow I already know the US patent office does not take patent applications for overunity or perpetual motion devices.  What catagory this device might fall into is unknown to me   Two magnets repelling each other while turning clockwise in my case. ????????????

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2011, 09:33:10 PM »
put some blades on it and call it a ceiling fan. LOL
 :)

Would love to see some pics or video for this.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2011, 09:53:53 PM »
 

The titanium rod I need is 3/8 inches in diameter, 5 3/4 inches long, with a 1 3/8 inch tread on one end of the rod.  16 threads per inch.

To hard for me to cut and thread with the equipment I have. All I would do is scratch up the rods surface.  I already have a 12 inch section of rod to work with.

I am trying for the most uncomplicated/inexpensive route to do all of this. Patenting can turn into a costly mess which will go no where after spending a fortune.  Anyhow I already know the US patent office does not take patent applications for overunity or perpetual motion devices.  What catagory this device might fall into is unknown to me   Two magnets repelling each other while turning clockwise in my case. ????????????

The last sentence got me thinking : is this the only direction of rotation or can you turn it counter-clockwise ?I wish I could see your device running on opposite hemisphere ? what do you think about it ?

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2011, 09:58:49 PM »

Or describe it as a wind generator that needs less wind surface area...  ;)

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2011, 01:39:38 AM »
This is something interesting! I just setup a few simulations in Maxwell based on this idea, and I think it actually works. Even better, after some changes, it can be made to work even without using gravity.
This is good because in this forced condition without using gravity, it could operate at very high RPM. The simulation uses a 3" diameter disk 1/8" thick and two cylinder magnets 1/2 diameter 1" long. A ball pivot point 1" above the disk magnet center. The two other magnets are used in different ways to create the forced condition and to provide .018 Newton meters of torque on a rotating disk mounter below the 3" disk magnet holding the two cylinder magnets.

I don't want to say too much as it's not my idea, but the simulator indicates it does work!
I will probably build one myself for testing and report back if it works or not.

Thanks Tom,
I had this same idea many years ago, but could not put it together.
It was your success that renewed my interest!

Great Lumen !
Please post some simulation output pictures of your simulation or
if you can also a GIF Animation or youtube video from
sequenced single pictures into a short movie.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2011, 02:06:28 AM »
Thanks again Tom,   

I am sure your soon to come (in the next few days or so) video will give the OU community a real lift.   

I am looking forward to it. 

Bill

 

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