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Author Topic: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom  (Read 91802 times)

Offline Freezer

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2011, 06:31:42 AM »
Some people just don't understand..

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2011, 09:20:32 AM »


Hi, Its me Tom,

I removed all device videos because things were rapidly changing for  the better.  I never give up. After a great deal of  more experimenting and work (on my own) persuing this I am applying for a patent on what I developed.
My simple inexpensive MOTOR device works using only 2 small  sphere magnets and another inexpensive off the shelf component.  Similar to a SMOT "SMALL MAGNETIC OVERUNITY TOY".  Its self running and can power other devices  NO ELECTRICITY OR ELECTRONICS WHATSOEVER.  Presently I dont care if anyone believes me or not.
My model has great speed and torque and can be classified as a motor rather than a toy.  I plan to show all "AFTER A PATENT IS GRANTED"

In event any corporation is interested please contact me with an open wallet. Cash first (in a police station) then you get to see it and play with it.  Keeps everyone honest.

Tom
Have you thought about all those who downloaded this video? If you install Real Player, a plugin allows you to download youtube videos quite easily...
It will not take long before the same video is up and running by another youtuber.

I have not downloaded this video, but others might have. Protecting patents which is already being published on the internet, is next to impossible. Videos are spreading like fire in dry grass.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2011, 02:58:40 PM »
Why would you think anyone would steal that from you? If you published full and complete drawings. The internet would do the rest for you. you could never be supplanted. also if you were not interested in the money then you could file a patent application and release the details IN FULL. everyone could verify the patent for you and make it easier for you to get the full patent. and you would still have the option of monetizing the patent.

Or copyright the design, it would be your design for 75 years! better protection than a patent.

just my thoughts

CC

Thanks,  I will also go the copyright route as it does not seem to have roadblocks in it  That thought never occured to me.

Tom

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2011, 06:17:25 PM »
Thanks,  I will also go the copyright route as it does not seem to have roadblocks in it  That thought never occured to me.

Tom

Tom congratulations on a self-runner.   Nice to see some success stories.   Can you share with us your theory of how it must work?   Where the energy comes from etc.   

(added)  Quote from Copyright a Design - "Copyrights are meant to protect original creative works, such as music, fine art, literature, poems and dance. Only actual works themselves can be copyrighted, not the methods used to create them. A technical design for an invention is something that must be patented, not copyrighted."   

Read more: How to Copyright a Design | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_5013155_copyright-design.html#ixzz1T2vEEImV

If you have a few years to wait for some company to give you money for your idea I suggest on line self patent pending approach to protect your works until you get some backing, unless you want to go the open source route which gives you credit for your invention but leaves you with much small amounts of money to be made from your demo units and interviews etc.   
One thing,  you do stand to have your patent and device taken by the clause for "National Security Reasons"  as you may know,  if you go the patent route.

One good thing about the Copyright route is that it would help protect your writings and may help protect the fact that you were the orginal inventor if that is what you want. 

Thanks

Bill
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2011, 05:06:06 PM »
Well, the first post contains an understandable description of how this device was constructed, has anyone tried to duplicate it's operation?

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 06:51:53 PM »
Well, the first post contains an understandable description of how this device was constructed, has anyone tried to duplicate it's operation?

Thats exactly why I took the posts down. Lack of real interest. As far as I know only one person bought the materials and then he quit contacting me. A mistake.   I have made major improvements since then but the original concept is there.  Only two sphere magnets and another  inexpensive component is needed to run the device as well as simple non ferrous materials found in Lowes, Home Depot, or Mcmaster-Carr.



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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2011, 09:45:25 PM »
Thats exactly why I took the posts down. Lack of real interest. As far as I know only one person bought the materials and then he quit contacting me. A mistake.   I have made major improvements since then but the original concept is there.  Only two sphere magnets and another  inexpensive component is needed to run the device as well as simple non ferrous materials found in Lowes, Home Depot, or Mcmaster-Carr.

Tom

Hi Tom,

I didn´t see any video any more, but I´m very interested personally; that´s really NO mistake!
Where are "materials" to be bought? Give me a helpful hint, please!

Best regards
Manfred.

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2011, 11:12:55 PM »
Tom,  maybe you could sell kits for those who would like to experiment with your motor?   
Copyright your instructions. 

If I remember correctly,  your video showed that you have an incredible ability to be persistant.

I am having trouble understanding how you get two magnetic spheres in repulsion for any length of time.  It would be very hard to keep them from attracting each other? 

   

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2011, 12:46:12 AM »
Tom,
If you have something working and you want to sell kits or even just need a hundred prototypes to sell on Ebay , I have several CNC machines. Your setup sounds fairly simple so turn around would be short. I suppose a small working device on Ebay would sell about 2 Million, at $100 each? Maybe contact someone in China!




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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2011, 04:10:25 AM »
Tom,  maybe you could sell kits for those who would like to experiment with your motor?   
Copyright your instructions. 

If I remember correctly,  your video showed that you have an incredible ability to be persistant.

I am having trouble understanding how you get two magnetic spheres in repulsion for any length of time.  It would be very hard to keep them from attracting each other? 

Epoxy them in a repel mode and let the epoxy cure keeping the magnets still all the while. I did just that.

 



  I am going to make a video showing this device running as soon as I get another component replacement not mentioned.   That component is the key part that makes the device operate  and will be covered.  Now I am sure skeptics will cry fake with a cover on not even knowing what its all about.  I dont do fakes.

My game plan is such:
Patenting is out. Money down a government rathole unless you are a millionare.  So another option is to make this a PUBLIC DOMAIN invention where all I will recieve is a ata  boy then forgoten.

For all my efforts I would like take in a little cash for charity puposes so I am planning to video the device as above and place the video on the You Tube.

At that time I also will post the devce on Ebay linking the video on You Tube to it and see where that leads.

No takers then it goes Public Domain and I can kick back and watch what greed is capable of doing.  At least then it becomes alive in todays market place and alive for individual replication.


Tom

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2011, 04:40:32 AM »
Tom
So we get to turn the page on the old ways? Sounds like a very big day!!
One we have been waiting on for a long time!
Thanks Tom I truly hope you proceed to share ...........
It is the right thing to do.......

Chet

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2011, 05:22:40 AM »
Tom,

i must commend you.
you seem to be an honorable person with the right goals in mind.

im glad you see the light about the patenting idea.  sad isnt it?
Those of us who are Tesla fans (who isn't) have an acute sense of disillusionment dont we? LOL

i do remember following your videos with much interest, but didnt post to the threads as they were forwarded by hartiberlin so i didnt know if you were actually on here or not.

is this device based on the one with the magnet that looked like a big hockey puck with a hole in it?
i could go on, but i think you know the one im talking about.

if so, i think that was one of the most novel ideas ive seen in a long time.
i do hope that i will get a chance to build or buy one of them someday.
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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2011, 01:26:52 AM »
This is something interesting! I just setup a few simulations in Maxwell based on this idea, and I think it actually works. Even better, after some changes, it can be made to work even without using gravity.
This is good because in this forced condition without using gravity, it could operate at very high RPM. The simulation uses a 3" diameter disk 1/8" thick and two cylinder magnets 1/2 diameter 1" long. A ball pivot point 1" above the disk magnet center. The two other magnets are used in different ways to create the forced condition and to provide .018 Newton meters of torque on a rotating disk mounter below the 3" disk magnet holding the two cylinder magnets.

I don't want to say too much as it's not my idea, but the simulator indicates it does work!
I will probably build one myself for testing and report back if it works or not.

Thanks Tom,
I had this same idea many years ago, but could not put it together.
It was your success that renewed my interest!


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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2011, 09:41:42 PM »
This is something interesting! I just setup a few simulations in Maxwell based on this idea, and I think it actually works. Even better, after some changes, it can be made to work even without using gravity.
This is good because in this forced condition without using gravity, it could operate at very high RPM. The simulation uses a 3" diameter disk 1/8" thick and two cylinder magnets 1/2 diameter 1" long. A ball pivot point 1" above the disk magnet center. The two other magnets are used in different ways to create the forced condition and to provide .018 Newton meters of torque on a rotating disk mounter below the 3" disk magnet holding the two cylinder magnets.

I don't want to say too much as it's not my idea, but the simulator indicates it does work!
I will probably build one myself for testing and report back if it works or not.

Thanks Tom,
I had this same idea many years ago, but could not put it together.
It was your success that renewed my interest!

Lumen,   

Yes, all credit should go to Tom for his persistence.   
He has been a great contributor to OU over the years with all his demo's and wonderful inventions. 

I look forward to seeing his release video of a working proto-type motor.

I think we should all give Tom a big thanks for his great contributions to science and our world. 

Thank you again Tom.

Bill

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Re: New magnetic-gravity motor chasing its tail from Tom
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2011, 03:40:03 AM »
This is something interesting! I just setup a few simulations in Maxwell based on this idea, and I think it actually works. Even better, after some changes, it can be made to work even without using gravity.
This is good because in this forced condition without using gravity, it could operate at very high RPM. The simulation uses a 3" diameter disk 1/8" thick and two cylinder magnets 1/2 diameter 1" long. A ball pivot point 1" above the disk magnet center. The two other magnets are used in different ways to create the forced condition and to provide .018 Newton meters of torque on a rotating disk mounter below the 3" disk magnet holding the two cylinder magnets.

I don't want to say too much as it's not my idea, but the simulator indicates it does work!
I will probably build one myself for testing and report back if it works or not.

Thanks Tom,
I had this same idea many years ago, but could not put it together.
It was your success that renewed my interest!


You have two magnets repelling each other. The lead magnet (runner)
moves forward, the second magnet or engine magnet moves backward according to Newtons third law.
They seperate a distance then nothing happens.

Second scenario:

The engine magnet CAN NOT move backward now:
THe runner magnet will still move forwad and leave the stationary engine magnet behind it  untill it reaches a distance then it stops.

Third scenario:

Both engine magnet and runner sphere magnets repelling each other on the same platform BUT moving together as one unit continuously  Thats where I am at now
 

Tom
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