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Author Topic: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb  (Read 162887 times)

afh723

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2014, 09:50:46 AM »
rotoverter - a simple device.
do not think that it violates the law of conservation of energy.

basis for this device "self-rotating generator."
can be made from conventional asynchronous machine, in which the rotor is simply to mount a permanent magnet.

Magnets - source "autorotation"

http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fafhh723.livejournal.com%2F1421.html&act=url

ageofmagnetizm

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2014, 02:11:28 AM »
Quote: << ... do not think that it violates [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]the law[/color] of [color=rgb(27, 142, 222) !important]conservation of energy[/color]. >>


Why we should believe that some laws are absolutely Universal and must be applied absolutely everywhere?
How can we apply laws deduced during building of steam-engines - for everything in physics, how this laws can explain perpetual motion of electrons about nucleus of atom... why this motion never stops regardless that no fuel is fed into atoms. ;)
Aiming new technology we should be open to learn nature for new laws which are not written yet.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2014, 05:21:39 AM »
Hi

I was also thinking last night, as to why particles rotate around the nucleous in an atom perpetually without any energy input from outside.

How does the 2nd law of thermodynamics explain this perpetual motion in an atom ????

Well it explains. How : Take a magnetically levitating top and spin it in vaccuum, it will keep spinning perpetually till you try to use its spinning energy to light a bulb. Suppose you have two coils on either side of the spinning magnetic top in vaccum. Till the coils are not shorted, the top will keep spinning perpetually, but the moment you short the coils, the top will start slowing down and stop in some time.

Till the time you do not try to exract energy from waltzing electrons they will keep rotating, like earth around the Sun.

But if you start extracting the energy out of earths rotation around its axis or around the sun, eventually it will stop rotating.

Perpetual motion does not voilate the laws of thermodynamics, but the perpetual motion machine do.

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AnandAadhar

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2014, 08:38:30 AM »

Perpetual motion does not voilate the laws of thermodynamics, but the perpetual motion machine do.

Not even... a perpetual motion machine can exist if it manages to convert for instance dark energy into kinetic energy. No law of thermodynamics is violated, when only energy that cannot be seen operating is converted into energy that can be seen active. If the drive of spinning planets and electrons around a nucleus would be dark energy - who knows - or 'time energy' for that matter, one can very well tap that energy by conversion. More energy comes out of the system than you put in when an unseen/as-yet-unknown source is tapped.  If the drive of dark energy or universal time would be the increasing expansion of the universe - that is also active locallly despite of gravitation - , you only have to develop a mechanical system to catch that locally dynamic force of universal expansion of which astronomers say it is accellerating.  Go figure.... in theory this is possible, in practice it means a global paradigmatic revolution to prove such a thing.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2014, 09:06:36 AM »
rotoverter - a simple device.
do not think that it violates the law of conservation of energy.

basis for this device "self-rotating generator."
can be made from conventional asynchronous machine, in which the rotor is simply to mount a permanent magnet.

Magnets - source "autorotation"

http://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fafhh723.livejournal.com%2F1421.html&act=url


This Rotoverter device - Download - seems to be real and is apparently converting an unseen/unknown type of energy into a visible type of energy.  It is may be - but it doesn't have to be - fraud. But ignorance is certainly the problem in accepting this type of PM thing. Selfexciting dual generators are a known issue, they are called Q-mo-gens or selflooped systems with energy left over.  There seems to be a wide variety of these type of selfrunning systems. They are real, but as yet the proper understanding is lacking to reach the mainstream. A revolution - especially a paradigmatic one -  is denied first, then ridiculed and only later accepted as normal, once proven real.
see:
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Special:Search?search=Qmogen&go=Go
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67378968/rotovert%28Free%20energy%29.mp4

lumen

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2014, 05:32:14 PM »
This just looks way to easy to operate as shown.
Are these fakes getting better or could this be real!





TinselKoala

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2014, 09:08:51 PM »
The more you allow yourself to be distracted by obviously impossible fakes like this... the less you will be able to concentrate on what is, or might possibly be, real.


The image is titled "energy from source unknown". But you can bet your bottom dollar that the person in the video knows exactly where the energy is coming from... and it's not coming from the motors or the lightbulb.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2014, 02:54:45 PM »
There are permanent machanical drives and free energy "klip" drives with stored mechanical force already on the market. I strolled onto this, Google it" www.klipenergy.com  They call it klip energy. Can be used in aircrafts as well. looks like a force on eccentric rings

magnetman12003

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2015, 12:37:46 AM »
@gauschor,

I tried this setup some years back. I did use a lot of Neos around the rotor glued
with super glue. I never experienced any demagnetization of the stator magnets.
I guess the force of the rotor magnets is not powerful enough to demagnetization
the stator magnets. The electromagnet pulse needs to be strong enough to "suck"
the magnet past the sticky point. Then you release the coil power and let the rotor
go another round. I do not remember now how much power I did use but I do remember
that MY setup was under unity.

What would  happen if you did not have the sticky spot to deal with at all?? That's where I am now.
Need a 12 volt hall effect circuit that is capable of delivering a pulse to a large 12 volt electromagnet.

GL.

AlienGrey

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2015, 11:59:25 PM »
The more you allow yourself to be distracted by obviously impossible fakes like this... the less you will be able to concentrate on what is, or might possibly be, real.


The image is titled "energy from source unknown". But you can bet your bottom dollar that the person in the video knows exactly where the energy is coming from... and it's not coming from the motors or the lightbulb.

Their is a PDF on this device where the rotor has been changed for a Neo magnet on both motors has any one tried that idea ? if it doesn't work, it's your risk !

Dog-One

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2015, 07:25:30 AM »
Their is a PDF on this device where the rotor has been changed for a Neo magnet on both motors has any one tried that idea ? if it doesn't work, it's your risk !

Spotting the black mark pixilation next to the guy's thumb tells me this is purely CGI.

It would make a nice gag gift for a kid.  Today though a kid wouldn't spend more than ten minutes on it--they seem to all know most adults are full of shit.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2015, 08:16:58 AM »
a lot of people have a misconception about "perpetual motion" when it comes to planets and atoms.
They think these things revolve around their hosts for eternity, but nothing could be further from the truth.

The orbits of the planets can be measured and calculated to show that the planets are in fact falling into the sun,
a tiny bit each year as they orbit. eventually, every planet will be consumed by the sun's gravity.
(the sun won't last long enough to eat the earth, but it is falling towards it)

Even the atomic structure does not keep electrons orbiting forever.
Each atom has a charge, and this charge is weakened each orbit an electron makes around the nucleus.
The time-derivative of the number of electron orbits an atom has left it its' lifetime, is known as the atoms "halflife".
this is the average time half of a given sample of a given element, will run out of energy and decay into the next lower state of existence.
every atom is like a tiny clock winding down. eventually they will all stop.

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2015, 03:02:14 PM »
perspective
While it may not be eternal perpetual motion feeding on some unseen source,
I am most definitely impressed ...we see what can happen with the little guys when we get sloppy
and nasty with them.

https://images.rapgenius.com/966ac6d9fe9ee1c1dc6b4eb5de847a50.719x496x1.jpg

tapping this energy in a more friendly and controlled way will surely be our destiny , they're the ultimate source of our energy.

perhaps Richard Hull in his garage with his students or Alexander Parkhomov in His kitchen are most of the way there already ?
and they're just fellows playing around with no budgets or real support.

sort of like these forums ...
just some fellows playing around ....doing their part to change things .

Oh lest I forget...so we can diminish our Carbon footprint as the powers that be wish !

respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2015, 03:14:35 PM »
What happens when the 2 3.7v Li-ion batteries inside the coils go flat ?

ramset

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Re: Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2015, 03:21:30 PM »
We send them to Alexander in Moscow and he shows you what to do with lithium and a few basic
ingredients.

waste not want not !