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Author Topic: Law of polarity against entropy  (Read 6666 times)

Offline soliris

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Law of polarity against entropy
« on: June 01, 2011, 06:14:19 PM »
hello

 I"m looking for people who can accept this: if there is a law for "loss"of energy, called entropy, there must exist another law of expansion of energy, known formerly: Law of Polarity .
 Who can accept this proposal?

 SOL

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Offline fritznien

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 06:40:03 PM »
i would but entropy don't say that.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 07:01:30 PM »
let us first clarify that energy is not actually "lost". It is transfered into different forms of energy. The decrease in the energy being observed, is the result of an increase in energy in the surroundings and systems that come in contact with the observed energy.

for instance, if an object gains energy in the form of motion, this energy is transfered out of the object in the form of friction (heat), radiation, vibrations, and setting into motion objects that it comes into contact with.

The definition of the term Entropy, is in direct conflict with the very same thermodynamic theories that we use to define it.

Thermodynamic theory states that the total quantity of energy in the universe remains constant, therefore, nothing is truly "entropic". The energy is simply transfered from one object to another, or from one form to another.

Since thermodynamic theory is based upon a theoretical "closed system", it does not allow for the term "Antientropy" to be defined.

In reality, Antientropy occurs everywhere, whenever energy is transfered from other objects or forms, into the object or form being observed. There is no such thing as a "closed system".

If the object being observed, contains less energy ( in whatever form) than the surrounding environment, it will be Antientropic, and gain energy from its' surrundings.
This occurs everywhere in the unvierse. - The formation of stars, inside the core of an active planet, the formation of crystals, the heating of objects impacted by light or other forms of radiation, the impact of moving objects, ect.

a "law of polarity" or "law of opposites" would simply be defining certain instances of antientropy, wherein the observed energy is split into two equal and opposite forms.




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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 07:01:30 PM »
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Offline brian334

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 09:23:10 PM »
The solution to the problem is to accept the fact that gravity has mass.
And mass is transferred from one object to another by gravity.

Offline soliris

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 05:29:05 PM »
Smoky2

Thank you for your explanations ...
But I think they are not completely realistic and it is not enough to say that energy is focused somewhere else in the universe ... Specifically, the purpose of the forum "free energy" is to discover how antientropy appears .

For example, studying the problem of "killer waves" of the North Atlantic, which crush even large boats, some physicists have solved part of the problem "antientropy" considering that sometimes, in a "restless" and energetic system like an ocean, the elements of this system (the waves of the ocean) can "decide " to borrow the power to everything else ... For a moment.
These physicists say that the law of conservation of energy is observed, because the waves later restore the totall energy by collapsing like walls.

Interesting, no?

I think it is the single instance closest to the "free energy". He simply lacks the "engine" of such "borrowing power".

May be you show the direction, by your idea of a split, but you should explain better...

Honour to those who seek.

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 09:08:30 PM »
giant waves in the ocean, are caused by "constructive interference".
The repetitive motion of the waves, when met with variances in restistive force in differing parts of the oceans (such as currents, changes in wind direction ect.) behaves just like a signal traveling through a length of wire, or an oscillating wave traveling down a length of rope.
the tiny waves add up at or near the center of the area, resulting in a "resonant" wave traveling through the ocean. The magnitude of this wave is exponentially greater than the tiny waves that created it.

Resonance, is in a sense, a form of "free energy", because the tiny waves that caused it, still arrive at the other end, in addition to the much larger magnitude wave, caused by the constructive interference.

This problem is often dealth with in practice, for instance, in a radio transmission tower, because the radio waves add up and can reach a potential of several thousand volts, destroying the tower and a great deal of the equipment used to broadcast the much smaller signal.

This problem, however, is rarely dealt with in terms of energy conservation, regardless of the obvious problems that arise with respect to the theory. It is simply ignored by physics, except to acklowledge that it occurs, and solutions to deal with it. It is often viewed as a "problem", rather than a source of free energy.

to simply write it off, claiming that the wave "collapses" when it runs into opposing waves, shallow water/ reefs, or arrives at shore, is not really a valid explaination. The energy carried by the wave is still transfered to its target.

The ocean itself, is not a "closed system", and therefore is not subject to the claims set forth by thermodynamic theory.
The ocean gains energy from tidal motion, from wind, from heat.
all these things attribute to changes in the total energy held by the oceans at any given time.




Offline soliris

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 04:02:15 PM »
I love the words you use, as "constructive interference", "signal along a wire," Resonance", "target".. ... And especially this passage: "Simply to write it off, Claiming That the wave" collapses "when it runs into opposing waves, shallow water / reef, or arrive at shore is Not really a valid explaination. The Energy Carried by the wave Is Still transfered to its target ""

Do you know that this study on the giant waves of the North Atlantic was conducted by physicists of quantum theory?
Whatever. I personally feel that the overall resonance of a system produces more power to  the group than the addition of "echoes" of each element, in particular ..

I think that beyond the spectacular manifestation of the phenomenon of killer waves, something has originally been created: I want to talk about a "call".
What we lack in finding the free energy is the ability to create a "call" in the middle of a power system.
Creating giant waves is the result of an accidental but real call. Conditions have been met (you say very good), but we do not yet know how.
Again, this is perhaps the only example we have really the creation of free energy.

Thank you for your attention

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Re: Law of polarity against entropy
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