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Author Topic: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?  (Read 873654 times)

Offline Zephir

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1365 on: March 11, 2017, 06:08:24 PM »
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Steven Jones circuit: There are measurement errors its pretty obvious.
Prof. Jones himself admitted, than his circuit doesn't generate any overunity. And I don't think, that this particular circuit really generates some - the simple self-looped demo would demonstrate it already.

But there is really something about these Joule-Thief circuits and they periodically show up at YouTube, again and again. A FLEET (Forever Lead-Out Electromagnetic Energy Transformer) has secondary coils on top of the Joule Thief tuned to some resonance condition so that COP >1, once the secondary coil gets bifilar. I presume it's because the bifilar coil enables to drain energy from oscillating electromagnetic circuit without introducing the counter-electromotive force  into it.

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1366 on: March 11, 2017, 07:13:55 PM »
Zephir
your example here
http://overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg353409/#msg353409
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I believe Larry's [ Itseung]circuit has been looked at and similar issues were found [measurement error]
however if you feel something was missed or have other ideas which may yield results ?

please feel free to present a circuit for consideration ?

with respect
Chet K

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1367 on: March 11, 2017, 07:21:57 PM »
Zephir,

Your video link is now unavailable, did you have the presence of mind to save the MP4 via free service YouTube to MP4.

Anyways...Probably not.

He puts his email, try to contact him.

But beware of those mysterious Russians, they sometimes try to scam privately.

Offline Qwert

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1368 on: March 12, 2017, 03:05:33 AM »
Hi. I had not visited this site pretty long time. In fact, I don't believe anymore in the concept of overunity presented in this forum, other than a nuclear origin. However, I still believe there is possible a concept of a more efficient battery or similar device. Recently I found this link where a girl (yes, a girl) says she invented such one. Since this presentation was published several months ago, I want to ask guys who more often visit this site, if they maybe spot some more info about this device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtGWCalIYg

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1369 on: March 12, 2017, 06:17:38 AM »
Hi. I had not visited this site pretty long time. In fact, I don't believe anymore in the concept of overunity presented in this forum, other than a nuclear origin. However, I still believe there is possible a concept of a more efficient battery or similar device. Recently I found this link where a girl (yes, a girl) says she invented such one. Since this presentation was published several months ago, I want to ask guys who more often visit this site, if they maybe spot some more info about this device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtGWCalIYg


Looks like a cell based in concentration gradients, with no details given its hard to tell. The girls probably invented nothing as they would have been under supervision and you will find that the real players will show their faces soon. It would be nice to know the full chemistry behind it, especially on how its recharged. As usual they are asking for $$$$ with no details given out.

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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1370 on: March 12, 2017, 06:46:35 AM »
Zephir
your example here
http://overunity.com/12686/is-joule-thief-circuit-gets-overunity/msg353409/#msg353409
---------------
I believe Larry's [ Itseung]circuit has been looked at and similar issues were found [measurement error]
however if you feel something was missed or have other ideas which may yield results ?

please feel free to present a circuit for consideration ?

with respect
Chet K


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9RgjAgSQOg


Secondary winding on this joule thief fed a bi-filar primary
On a 7-inch steel toroid, through a second transistor
To light a another series of led's.
When switching out of phase, there were specific frequencies
at which led brightness increased and current draw from the
(mostly dead) battery decreased.


A single joule thief made from the 7-inch toroid, one transistor
and the same battery - did not function. There simply wasn't enough
power to saturate the large steel ring and light any led.




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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1371 on: March 12, 2017, 07:03:35 AM »
... I still believe there is possible a concept of a more efficient battery or similar device. Recently I found this link where a girl (yes, a girl) says she invented such one. Since this presentation was published several months ago, I want to ask guys who more often visit this site, if they maybe spot some more info about this device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtGWCalIYg


It is a 4-tank salt battery.  Reduced to a small scale.
Sodium Chloride and Sodium Sulfate
With (purified) water the 4 tanks take on four distinct
Ionic solution states.
A membrane (or in this case a stack of membranes)
Controls a one-way flow of ions and cations that maintain
a charge separation with immense current carrying capacity.
Large scale salt batteries are already in commercial production
and use. What these girls have done is shrunk it down and
given it a portability never before seen in this type of battery.
Currently existing units are the size of a small building.


They can be charged by conventional means and store power for
an indefinite period of time. Some tens of decades (estimated).




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Re: PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?
« Reply #1372 on: March 13, 2017, 03:55:53 PM »
Thanks guys.