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Title: mag-gravity
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 30, 2006, 09:50:44 AM
hope this works
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: gyulasun on May 30, 2006, 10:47:34 AM
Hi,

Would you mind describing your setup a little ??  For me it is not self-explanatory, sorry.

On the upper left you have a magnet, indicate the poles please; is it a quarter piece circle magnet? If so it is hard to obtain?

Thanks

Gyula
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 30, 2006, 11:16:13 AM
as the 'metal' gets attracted to the 'magnet' the arm rotates to the bigger end of the magnet then it flaps close (with the help of gravity) and the magnetic field is decreased while there is already another arm starting.

kind of like
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=751.0;attach=734
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,751.0.html

only thing is my design has a flapping mechanism to decrease the magnetic field.
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: gyulasun on May 30, 2006, 12:23:33 PM
Thanks for the hints.

The only thing I cannot get now is: Why your flapping mechanism is supposed to decrease the magnetic field when the non-magnetic arm closes ?? What material do you think of? Have you done tests with that material?
Because if that material really "absorbes" flux as if it were a flux "screener" and the metal sees less flux behind that material, then your idea has the possibility to operate as you planned.

Gyula
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 30, 2006, 12:34:03 PM
Thanks for the hints.

Why your flapping mechanism is supposed to decrease the magnetic field when the non-magnetic arm closes ?? What material do you think of? Have you done tests with that material?
Gyula

the arm (can be anything non-magnetic) flaps close on top of the magnet, see i know you cant completly block the magnetic field, it just needs to be decreased to some extent.

the flapping arm can be real thick and light weight


no tests just ideas
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: gyulasun on May 30, 2006, 02:39:51 PM
Yes, ok but the main question is just the decrease of the flux to SOME extent,  i.e. to an extent which is just enough to overcome the sticky spot at the top position. You would need diamagnetic material like bismuth or pyrolytic graphite sheets which are highly diamagnetic.

Found a link on bismuth: http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/levmag.htm and it seems to be formed easily at home to a flat sheet format too due to its low melting temperature point.

Also a good info on diamagnetic materials is here:

http://www.physics.ucla.edu/marty/diamag/ajp601.pdf        and also here:
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/marty/diamag/diajap00.pdf

The "latest" strongly diamagnetic material is pyrolytic graphite and it is available just in the correct shape for your arm:
http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/pyrolytic_graphite.html

Now your idea can be tested! Go ahead!

rgds
Gyula
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 30, 2006, 09:36:55 PM
thanks gyulasun
Title: Re: mag-gravity
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 31, 2006, 07:33:52 AM
also when the arm flaps close there is kinetic energy that can be preserved in a circuit that can also help in turning off the magnetic field or at least decrease to some level. we would have to have seperate blocks of magnets in this case, have the last bigger magnet block turn off/on its field.