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johnny874

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #270 on: March 07, 2012, 07:05:28 PM »

To Johnny874   re; reply # 258
                                                  You say 'anxious',. but do you realy mean excited?  You also say, you'll keep quiet about it
for now.   Are you worried about ridicule?   If you are, DON'T BE!
There's an old saying of mine, that I use from time to time, it's this; re; P.M:   You can be wrong countless times, but you only
have to be right once!
 
BILL.

   Bill,
 have tolerated much harassment for my current project. the only bad thing about that is it was/is from people who claim to support Bessler.
 Right now, my main concern is talking about it ad nauseum.
 I think I am both anxious and excited. I have decided this weekend I will start building work benches. I will need something to work on.
 In some ways, I think I am in a little bit different place than everyone else because of the work I have done and the people I have met in these forums. Myself, I will go heavy into math. I like it and use it quite often.
 With Bessler, I think as far as gravity goes, some of his thoughts might help to find other ways of making something work. This I think worries some people about maybe them not recieving proper credit for their efforts if Bessler's drawings help.
 With what I am working on, I think it is Bessler's best wheel and uses a very unique principle. It is different than using weights themselves to achieve over balance. The weights would stay in balance. But with weights, his Mt 26 is something that might be possible if 2 or more scissors were used and operated by a lever. Scissors can out perform w=md. And this is what would possibly allow for converting gravity into mechanical energy.
Math helps to show how this potential might be realized.
 
@Raphael, this I do not is legitimate but is still interesting. I have tried moving magnets past each other and wonder if he has air blowing or if the magnets on the side help to focus the magnetic field that acts on the "motor".
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGq2WSnE7j0
 
                                                                            Jim
 
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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #271 on: March 08, 2012, 01:34:53 AM »
Good luck, JIM,
                         Take no notice what 'others' say --------------- get on with it!
 
BILL.
 
 
 

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #272 on: March 08, 2012, 06:40:49 AM »
 
I.ve been told, by an eminent member of this forum, that my overbalancing wheel will not work!   I might add, that's HIS theory!
I've offered this man the opotunity to take, once, and for all, the chance to prove that he's right, by building a 'static' wheel.   There
is only one moving part ---- the hub!   It works, by placing the weights (heavy nuts), around the two circles, mimicing the positions
of the weights.   If the device rotates by 22.5*, the device works.   NOT theory!   The man has declined several times, and blames
ME for his decision not to build the device, because HE'S right -------- end of!    I think he's decision not to build, is a mistake,
don't you?
 
BILL.
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #273 on: March 08, 2012, 06:46:14 AM »
The man I thought was dead  -------------- is not!   He will therefore, do my resizing, 'posting' etc..., as he's done before!
Thank you all, for your kind offers of help.
 
BILL.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Low-Q

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #274 on: March 08, 2012, 11:27:55 AM »
... especially after I've done some promissing experiments with bismuth as shielding.
Just have in mind that Bismuth repels magnetism rather than attract. The magnetism will just find an alternative path the same way as any other magnetic or diamagnetic materials do to magnetism.
A shield should absorb magnetism, but no material we know of can do that. Energy can be absorbed, and transformed, but not magnetism.


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Rafael Ti

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #275 on: March 08, 2012, 12:27:35 PM »
Just have in mind that Bismuth repels magnetism rather than attract. The magnetism will just find an alternative path the same way as any other magnetic or diamagnetic materials do to magnetism.
A shield should absorb magnetism, but no material we know of can do that. Energy can be absorbed, and transformed, but not magnetism.
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I would say Bismuth just "decreases" magnetic field on side where it's stuck to magnet. I had an impression that the magnetic field just moves towards the opposite side of magnet trying to escape from Bismuth. I couldn't feel repealing or attraction between these two materials... I used two magnets in repealing mode and then put a Bismuth plate between them. The repealing force clearly decreased.  Also it was really easy to put the plate between - the force I used was like there was no magnets around. The similar feature would have powdered graphite I think...

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Re: Overbalancing wheel
« Reply #276 on: March 08, 2012, 01:25:14 PM »

I.ve been told, by an eminent member of this forum, that my overbalancing wheel will not work!   I might add, that's HIS theory!
I've offered this man the opotunity to take, once, and for all, the chance to prove that he's right, by building a 'static' wheel.   There
is only one moving part ---- the hub!   It works, by placing the weights (heavy nuts), around the two circles, mimicing the positions
of the weights.   If the device rotates by 22.5*, the device works.   NOT theory!   The man has declined several times, and blames
ME for his decision not to build the device, because HE'S right -------- end of!    I think he's decision not to build, is a mistake,
don't you?
 
BILL.
Maybe the animation and the picture in the links will explain why there is no point in building the device - even if it isn't exactly how you designed it.


Scenario 1; The whole wheel with its weights on it (See arrows and blue circles for your reference) will overbalance the way the animation shows. No doubt. We can agree on this particular scenario.


Scenario 2: If the weights are following the grey track (See arrows for your reference), we actually do not need the hub at all, nor a wheel (red circle). And the weights will not go anywhere. This is where I assume our disagreement comes into play.


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