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Title: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: powercat on May 07, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
Please post your comments and general chitchat here.

We don't get to see many self-runners but I must say this looks like the most genuine one I have seen in a long long time,I hope we are witnessing the beginning of an energy revolution.
Which will lead to Being able to grow food anywhere any time of day,Travel as far as you want as often as you want, we all dream of it, is now the time when the dream becomes true ?
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: FreeEnergyInfo on May 07, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/muller_dynamo/
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: romerouk on May 07, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
Please post your comments and general chitchat here.

We don't get to see many self-runners but I must say this looks like the most genuine one I have seen in a long long time,I hope we are witnessing the beginning of an energy revolution.
Which will lead to Being able to grow food anywhere any time of day,Travel as far as you want as often as you want, we all dream of it, is now the time when the dream becomes true ?
I think I found the best replicator 'skycollection' jorge
If I will have to bet on someone this person has all my credits.
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: powercat on May 07, 2011, 03:33:41 PM
Here is a link to Skycollection Channel page
http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u)
I will be looking out for any new videos he posts  ;D
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: FreeEnergyInfo on May 07, 2011, 03:43:48 PM
Here is a link to Skycollection Channel page
http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u (http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection#p/u)
I will be looking out for any new videos he posts  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: powercat on May 07, 2011, 04:10:37 PM
 :D I thought he was replicating Romero's work I didn't realise he'd made his own completely different one  :o  Wow 2 self-runners  what next solid-state  8)
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: energy1234hope on May 08, 2011, 05:05:29 AM
Can somebody here replicate jorge / skycollections work at more volts out than in
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: powercat on May 08, 2011, 03:31:52 PM
bolt made this fascinating post recently,he really seems to understand this device.

Quote from bolt-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you completely missed the point of what i was saying.  First it is not the replication that is important it is understanding the method and using Re-gauging on the back end of the coils to null out the lugging. This is a magnacoaster method and something some of us have discussed for a long time.

 The drive of the rotor is not important as the pulse motor is only used to provide rotation. Any method of rotation can be used so long as its very efficient.  Already you will see no two devices will be the same as everyone will use the materials they have available to them. The magnets will be different strengths, the cores wound different, different core materials, the number of coils and magnets are probably going to be different BUT they all have a good chance of working if the re-gauging back end magnet is carefully selected to null the BEMF.

And Indeed Romereo has suggested others try bigger coils and rotors to get more power. Alike the Joule Thief no two are the same yet most of them work!

For using 3 phase RV provides cheap method of construction with professional bearing and platform to mount a rotor. The perspex doesn’t come cheap either. A3 sheets of the stuff 12mm thick cost a small fortune!! RV provides an extremely efficient drive motor which can spin a very large rotor down to a few watts.

http://youtu.be/duWxzwLEMxM (http://youtu.be/duWxzwLEMxM)

Now bolt the genhead stator and rotor direct to the motor shaft and you got your muller without using pulse drive and ALL the coils then become generator coils.
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Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: powercat on May 08, 2011, 06:50:08 PM
It would be interesting to know what makes this device unique ? i_ron has posted a different opinion
form bolt.
Quote from  i_ron--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The regauging theory was put forward to quickly. The key to romero's device is the tuning of the coil under load. This indicates a reaction with either EMF or BEMF as the principle cause. Regauging may play a part but how can you put this out with no data?

The RV is a great toy, I use mine for all sorts of data gathering but i know it doesn't have any use at 20 watts, the slightest load and the draw goes sky high.

It is the replication that is important... then comes understanding, from why some will work and some won't.

Ron
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Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: albert on May 12, 2011, 10:45:43 PM
Hi folks,
I would like to hear your opinions on the following thoughts:

I certainliy think Romeros machine would be a breakthrough if it can be replicated.
However I do not believe that this machine though it is a self runner would be rightfully called an overunity machine.
If what Bill Muller says is correct the driving force is in the neodymium magnets.
The production of these magnets must consume lots of energy. So by rights the machine would not be overunity until it produces more energy than it cost us to produce the magnets. And that would mean it has to run a long time.
The big question here is will the magnets de-gauss in the long run or not?
I dont know if the core material can be another source of energy thru the
process Bedini calls the pumping of the Bloch wall. Is there an influx of energy from the surroundings or not?
I certainly do not want to belittle what Romero has done. It would be great to have a formula for a self runnig machine because it would open the door to studying the effects in the coils, the tuning and so on. This might have a big impact on other OU concepts as well.
Lemme know what you think!
Albert
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: gauschor on May 23, 2011, 11:01:45 AM
The big question here is will the magnets de-gauss in the long run or not?

Good question. Since the base construction is mostly equal to a common generator I would assume there will not so much degauss happen. If it were a motor consisting of permanent magnets only (though such a device not yet exists) and magnets fully repelling each other magnet then I'm afraid it would demagnetize in the (not so) long run. But this is not the exactly the case in here. Once again only experiments and observation over a long time will show...
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: teslaalset on May 23, 2011, 12:23:01 PM
Hi folks,
I would like to hear your opinions on the following thoughts:

I certainliy think Romeros machine would be a breakthrough if it can be replicated.
However I do not believe that this machine though it is a self runner would be rightfully called an overunity machine.
If what Bill Muller says is correct the driving force is in the neodymium magnets.
The production of these magnets must consume lots of energy. So by rights the machine would not be overunity until it produces more energy than it cost us to produce the magnets. And that would mean it has to run a long time.
The big question here is will the magnets de-gauss in the long run or not?
I dont know if the core material can be another source of energy thru the
process Bedini calls the pumping of the Bloch wall. Is there an influx of energy from the surroundings or not?
I certainly do not want to belittle what Romero has done. It would be great to have a formula for a self runnig machine because it would open the door to studying the effects in the coils, the tuning and so on. This might have a big impact on other OU concepts as well.
Lemme know what you think!
Albert

Something on the cost balance:
Magnets are relative cheap.
My estimation is that the energy cost to make them is about 5 -10 % of the selling price, so probably 20 cents max per magnet.
Price of a KWh is around 20 cents here in Europe.
So we need to get roughly 8 + 2x9 magnets max for this exact copy of RomeroUK's setup.
This means it should generate 26 KWh before dying out and compensate for the energy cost to make the magnets.
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: TEKTRON on May 23, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
Somehing on the cost balance:
Magnets are relative cheap.
My estimation is that the energy cost to make them is about 5 -10 % of the selling price, so probably 20 cents max per magnet.
Price of a KWh is around 20 cents here in Europe.
So we need to get roughly 8 + 2x9 magnets max for this exact copy of RomeroUK's setup.
This means it should generate 26 KWh before dying out and compensate for the energy cost to make the magnets.

I used to make oxygen analyzers. The magnetics were critical and needed to be balanced . Using nickel horseshoe magnets, I found that (NN-SS) interaction between two mags, weakened or balanced the magnetism between the two magnets. In other words, forcing the like poles together, instantly, and permanently weakened and balanced the mag force between the two mags. On the other hand, in attraction mode (NS-NS)there was no notable change in magnetic strength. (calibrated Gauss meter)
Because this setup uses attracting forces, I do not foresee a great reduction in magnetic flux over time.     
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: albert on May 23, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
Thank you for these answers.
If someone gets this machine to run we will be in the situation that no one can explain it....

Theories:
1- The energy is in the magnetics.
2- The energy comes from something that happens inside the ferrite cores.
3.-Some mysterious external energy is captured by the machine.

I think the parallels to some of the other machines we have been building for years are too great to be overlooked. Many of the characteristics of this machine seem to be also built into the Bedini Ferris Wheel.

Anything else? I'd like to hear some of your ideas on it!

Albert
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: jimbo on July 19, 2019, 11:02:27 PM
The energy according to Tesla is in the carbon rods .it was found after his death that Newman used eight carbon rods in his units .he didn't get much because he didn't use magnet's to give the beta radiation polarity .its called vsg ..Valle synergy generator..its really a isotope flipping device.if you pluse a carbon rod with voltage above 100 volts ..the higher the better.. A small amount of the carbon isotope's flip to boron then back giving off beta radiation spraying it everywhere.but if you place a magnet string next to the carbon it Stays in the wire .giving more energy .easy cheep testing filling caps ect.
Title: Re: Romero's Muller Dynamo discussions
Post by: forest on July 21, 2019, 05:04:24 PM
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