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Author Topic: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread  (Read 49539 times)

Offline protech

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 04:23:47 AM »
Hi Bill,

I have learned over the years, that stick drawing visuals do much better than words...LOL 

The project I am working on was the same, most don't listen well.  It is just the human condition I suppose. 

But most are certainly willing to learn.  It is always funny when someone says they have replicated anothers work, even with pictures and diagrams to follow, and it looks nothing like the original, and then they moan because it doesn't work.  Sad, but entertaining, in a twisted kind of way!   LOL

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT:

Dream think build,

I do not recall the man saying anything about magnets!  He said to put something at the ends to control the movement.  Get it working first before modifying.
and Bill, if I am wrong about the magnets, please let me know!  Thanks!


Think I just gave up,you can deal with me on pm guy ....... its so easy once you know ...........

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 04:23:47 AM »

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2011, 04:52:06 AM »
Protech

Here is a similar one from a patent application that you might want to know about. My good friend Preston was trying it out. Now yours is a base unit and the patent was a hanging unit but the basic concept has close similarities. Preston didn't have much luck but the information is there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoWLuO9jSY0

And here is the Bessler wheel string that has a PDF of the patent application.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=72455#72455

This might help with a larger and power producing build.

Alan

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2011, 05:33:34 AM »
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Guy you are so off base makes me wonder.........

Hi Protech,

I was just pointed out that you said 20" lever, the first design is wrong, I understand that now. Have you built your device? I just want to know one thing and that is how you overcame the twist in the platform on the rollers that is imparted by the pendulum swinging down?

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2011, 05:44:39 AM »
Hi Protech,

I was just pointed out that you said 20" lever, the first design is wrong, I understand that now. Have you built your device? I just want to know one thing and that is how you overcame the twist in the platform on the rollers that is imparted by the pendulum swinging down?

Not to answer for Bill, but it sounds as if your weight is not centered/distributed properly on the bottom of your pendelum, if it is twisting.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2011, 07:36:46 AM »
Hi folks, Hi protech, thanks for sharing. So if it's similar to the video hammer posted, are you thinking of generators attached to the wheels or maybe magnets at each end of moving cart that interact with coils at each end.

How about something similar to Matthew Jones full rotating pendulum bouncer, though like this, we will not use full rotations, just normal pendulum swings and set the fulcrum on springs.
Then we use those one way zip pulls with gear type teeth on the strip and so when the pendulum swings downward, it will pull the zip pull, compressing spring and spin a generator.
Then as the pendulum swings upward, the zip pull will not be spinning the generator and the pendulum can freely swing upwards to again reset the zip pull generator. Just a few thoughts.
peace love light

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Offline neptune

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 01:21:09 PM »
Hi Protech . Congratulations on your design . Most people are unaware of the limitations of language when it comes to describing simple mechanisms.Words and phrases can have several meanings . If you are anything like me , "reading the instruction" book is a last resort when you buy something . The problem is , it is as clear as day in your mind , but conveying the design to others is sometimes very difficult . I would hope that you can bring yourself to be a little more patient with all of us .If all else fails , I would hope that anyone who builds a replica as a result of info received through private messages ,will share it here .Here is an example of the problems of language .A schoolboy was asked to use a computer to translate the phrase "out of sight, out of mind " into Russian .He again used the computer to translate it back into English .The result was "Invisible Idiot "

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2011, 01:54:52 PM »
Hi all,

Is protech the same protech from EF.

If so, I thought his great idea that he has been throwing at old Cloudseeder was this -


Any comments ?

I'll get a better pic.
Here tis -
from EF ----

"""now figure why this works right away..this is not my original concept but a take off of a machine never designed to do what it does this machine component of a larger machine that makes envelopes and the weights are crippers that hold a envelope transfer to a seal drying chain .. i as a young man was setting up this machine and as a proccedure it was necessary to adjust the envelope drop so that the seal that was wet would not land on the bar that held the envelope in place .... cool eh
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but i loosened the gear that drove the unit ..now this was a well worn machine and chains and all were well worn . and holy chit i dropped my wrench but as i picked it up the whole unit was moving .. my panic was to hit the stop button as i thought the machine was powered .. but it was not ........it was just moving .. lo i ended poking at it till it stopped but its force was equal to my poking ......get the point

after reading what you guys are trying i decided to start making nonsense machines in small versions to sell for desktop exs .. at a large price thank you

guess its not fair to not tell you i am a machine designer but usually for automation in auto industry gues i should post some of my work

the folowing is a machine to take the place of starofoam pellets its a paper twist thing ..that 1 little roll under the machine produces the resulting bags of product ... and no i never made a million out of it just sold it for $10,000.00"""

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Offline ramset

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2011, 02:17:43 PM »
Very Exciting stuff,
I had to Run down to NY for a few days ,Won't be able to "Play"
till I get back.

In the mean time Mr.Coombs if you get a chance you can have someone send me a telephone pic [all the "kids" have cameras in there phones these days]

To Chetkremens@gmail.com
I'll post it here!

Chet

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2011, 02:55:55 PM »
ah if you do what I state
 it's 5 dollars guy pretty cheap for over unity... but thanks .... my time is running out pay attention .........

How heavy does the weight on the pendulum have to be in relation to the whole structure?
Same weight?  Heavier or lighter?

DonL


« Last Edit: April 26, 2011, 09:36:56 PM by dllabarre »

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2011, 03:16:59 PM »
 Everything about this is equal. Where and or what is unequal about this that can make it work to produce an excess amount of energy? Equals can not produce more then used.

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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2011, 03:24:11 PM »
Everything about this is equal. Where and or what is unequal about this that can make it work to produce an excess amount of energy? Equals can not produce more then used.

My guess, is you take the first sentence of Bill's, from his other thread, you think of the moving base, and you think centrifugal force.  I can see it working.

Cheers,

Bruce

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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2011, 03:57:47 PM »
My guess, is you take the first sentence of Bill's, from his other thread, you think of the moving base, and you think centrifugal force.  I can see it working.

Cheers,

Bruce

Please do tell... What other thread?

DonL


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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2011, 04:40:10 PM »
Hi Protech,

To avoid confusion and misinterpretations can you post a photo with dimensions/weight or PM me if you don't want to post it here. I am willing to scale it up. If you want me to replicate exactly I need exact specs then there will be no question that something is off. My only interest is seeing your idea succeed, negativity is not required.

Thank you.

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Re: W.K.Coombs Open discussion thread
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2011, 07:40:29 PM »
My guess, is you take the first sentence of Bill's, from his other thread, you think of the moving base, and you think centrifugal force.  I can see it working.

Cheers,

Bruce

 Gravity has an equal pull from both directions back to center as do magnets and the movement produced will also have equal motion back and forth and the resistance is what will keep it from becoming perpetual. Even if it could be perpetual, no energy can be gained because any resistance added will stop it from being perpetual.

 

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