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Author Topic: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered  (Read 27413 times)

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »
I tend to agree with armagdn03 and I might add he's a very sharp guy.  I know it might have come off a little rough sounding but when you've been looking at alternate energy research for 20 years like I have you come to realize many people are certain they have it.  And some of them have been very smart people but when it got built it did not work.  Then there are those who are sure they have something only to find out it's a measurement error.  Of course there's the lesser discussed situation where someone has something for real but it is not any good in the real world due to non-competitiveness in energy generation, i.e. it costs too much or has other problems that make it NOT real world usable.  I've always believed Bessler had something that worked but it needed clockwork precision or some hidden element to work.  Glad you have found it. 
 
  If it turns out to be something that can be used for real world energy generation you may want to check www.panacea.org where you can read pages of stories about inventors that came up with real devices and how they went wrong it trying to get it developed or make money and why you've never heard of them.  Don't paint a bullseye on your forehead.  Going about it the way most have tried is guaranteed to make it vaporize into the ether of lost inventions. 

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Offline gauschor

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2011, 08:43:06 PM »
I have not built it yet. But it is "the" principle and it will work.

Of course... sigh...

Offline christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 01:21:14 AM »
2/3 finished ::)

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 01:21:14 AM »
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Offline Charlie_V

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 06:49:43 AM »
You know, if you can really make a Bessler wheel work you have solved two problems.  Everyone thinks energy generation, but if you can really keep the center of gravity of an object always changing then you can use the same principle to produce propulsion from internal sources (an inertia thruster if that is what they call them).  At any rate, build a prototype and if it works you can make two inventions from one.

Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 08:12:48 PM »
i think they need to bring back half baked ideas

and then add another thread called "people who claim to have solved it without any proof"


first off, you have no idea or right to suggest that anything you've done or thought of can be proven to be used by Bessler, even if the idea works you have absolutely no proof it was his model or concept

thats why i am not fond of Bessler threads

everything is speculation, why cant people just say "Bessler inspired thinking"

most likely you think it will work because the 14 people you know have no idea how to analyze a gravity wheel concept device, and tell you your smart because they never even heard about a PMM or free energy.

most likely your idea has been on here 100 times in 100 different ways that all fail, and someone (like me or most of the people on here) could tell you how it doesn't work or where it will get stuck with one look and then you will look very foolish, or just remain another one of the anonymous random child crying wolf


honestly i find this as annoying as those fake videos that claim to be true and then you find out it was an air compressor on the side and fake white noise was added to make it appear legitimate

please prove me false, otherwise its better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove me right

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 08:12:48 PM »
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Offline christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 05:24:34 AM »
this is the same kind of thing Bessler dealt with,doubt and disbelief and people thinking they are authorities on a subject which they really tangibly know nothing about.why?because nobody has a working wheel.Bessler had a working wheel.Somebody called me a newb.Just because you spent 40 years failing to get results doesn't make you and expert.I don't need my design evaluated by anyone.Have some humility.i still hold this statement: and yes,i can prove the Bessler connection...and 40 years of failure to produce a working wheel does not qualify you as an expert...you may be younger but still same idea.
P.S. when i was 17 i invented a way to cancel binaural crosstalk in stereo speakers similar to what matthew polk and bob carver did back in the day...this opens up the true stereo image available on the recordings.point being...i'm no dummy.to whoever might be inclined to make derogatory statements in this thread be prepared to eat your words,for the harsher they are the more uncomfortable they may be going down.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2011, 06:02:04 AM by christo4_99 »

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 06:05:26 AM »
You know, if you can really make a Bessler wheel work you have solved two problems.  Everyone thinks energy generation, but if you can really keep the center of gravity of an object always changing then you can use the same principle to produce propulsion from internal sources (an inertia thruster if that is what they call them).  At any rate, build a prototype and if it works you can make two inventions from one.
yes a turning shaft seems to be the most on demand thing besides basic resources on the earth,my girlfriend even likes it that way ;)

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 06:05:26 AM »
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Offline Dr

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 02:18:46 PM »
Chris: Keep plugging away and good luck hope you get it :)  to work, pay no attention to the naysayers!!!

Offline ramset

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 08:53:46 PM »
Well
I suppose we get what we deserve ,Its all Goodtimes Huh Christo4?Really Smart guy building cool sound systems , Spinnin your girl friend around and all........
I guess when they hand you a rifle ,and send you to some nice warm place in the desert
Maybe then you'll understand whats at stake?

Till then [any day now] Have fun.............

Enjoy your big secret!

Chet

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 08:53:46 PM »
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Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 10:20:53 PM »
ironically, telling someone they need to be more humble is not showing humility

the speaker suggests that they are in a higher position of morality than the subject

people who have to tell me they are smart makes me less inclined to believe them


i never said you were not intelligent, i only said that most likely no one you are in contact with has any idea (including yourself) to correctly analyze a gravity motor concept

you said a very interesting thing about ambiophonics, and i would very much like to hear what your contribution or invention was/is. any patent numbers i could check out? in what ways is it a reflection of matt polk? was this an addition or adaptation to his pre-existing methods?  i don't doubt you, i honestly am just curious.

all that eating words stuff is funny considering you haven't shown anything

one thing i have found is that people who feel the need to tell me that they are smart generally tend not to be as sharp as they think they are.

like honestly, if you are so intelligent how can you not see what you're doing? what would you say to someone who does what you are doing now. if i told you i created a speaker that was a million times better than whatever your audio invention was, but refused to tell you what it was, you might say

"wow i am so happy for you. i am so glad that your design made my obsolete and look like a child put it together. thank the lord for your impeccable ability to create such a wonderful system of speakers that i don't have to listen to on headphones. Of course you don't have to tell me, just knowing that you did it makes me happy"

or would it be

"thats bull shit, i won't believe you improved upon my design until you prove it to me. i have been doing this forever and i probly already thought of your design and i know why yours won't work as well as mine because i have already tested your idea in a similar way that didn't work as well as the idea i came up with when i was 17"

guess which one i would pick


..........................(the second one)

Offline christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2011, 03:31:13 AM »
what?

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
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Offline TEKTRON

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2011, 07:36:21 AM »
I'm looking for a good informative how to, for free energy... So just out of curiosity and want to know, can someone PLEASE point me to the other thread that "jacked" this one? Thanks in advance,
John

Offline MrMag

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2011, 02:08:44 AM »
I'm looking for a good informative how to, for free energy... So just out of curiosity and want to know, can someone PLEASE point me to the other thread that "jacked" this one? Thanks in advance,
John

Good one Tek.

BTW, how are you making out with your wheel Christo4_99? Any updates or info?

Offline christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2011, 05:31:51 AM »
I'm looking for a good informative how to, for free energy... So just out of curiosity and want to know, can someone PLEASE point me to the other thread that "jacked" this one? Thanks in advance,
John
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10631.0

Offline christo4_99

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Re: Due to Thread Jacking=New Thread:Bessler Priciple Discovered
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2011, 05:35:15 AM »
i'll be honest here...i just noticed something that nobody else on these boards or besserwheel.com or anywhere else on the net seemed to notice.i know because i have looked for it. i am working out the details and when i understand it i will build it correctly.

 

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